falsified videos?

[caffeine]

From wikipedia.org,

While people would like to believe there are legitimate videos of players of the NES version maxing out the score,[http://www.tetrismaster.com]all of these videos are falsified. In the one shown here, it is only evident that it is falsified when a Z or S piece is turned to fit into certain tight gaps. When there are two adjacent empty squares on the top row, then three adjacent empty squares below that, then just twoadjacent empty squares, an S or Z piece cannot be rotated to fill the second and third rows down.


Can anyone see what this guy is talking about? Last time I watched these, I didn't notice anything suspicious. I'd like to de-POV this paragraph, but would like to know what you guys think, first.

[Billmaan]

It sounds like he's complaining about some particular twist that (he claims) is impossible. In fact, I'd say it's the first one on the wiki page (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/../tetriswiki/Twists) under "Twists with S and Z".


Whether it's legitimately impossible on that version of tetris, or whether the guy's just uneducated, I don't know. I'd lean toward the latter, though...faking a video would be a lot of work, and there's no reason you'd use twists in a faked video anyway.

[caffeine]

yeah, it looks like he's talking about some kind of wall kick. i don't totally remember how z and s compensated rotations in that game, but i find it highly unlikely someone would go to the trouble to modify the game's code to rotate a piece a little differently.


edit: okay i think i see what he's talking about. yeah, he's definitely unfamilar with how the game works, because that's definitely possible-- it's not even a wall kick. i'm correcting the wiki shortly.

[M.Bison]

The S and Z spin the guy is talking about are possible, on the NES version of Tetris and the classic GB version. He would be referring to the 16th line from the first video on terismaster.com, (jonas).

Its pretty funny somethone thinks that this particular twist is not possible on the NES tetris as T-spins are also possible.

As for "all of these videos are falsified" that sounds like someone who does'nt play the game much talking, I was going to post a handful of max-out vids on tetrismaster.com but its all a matter of taking up alot space on the site.


- Jono[/quote]

[Spectre256]

I'd like to see that guy say to my face that I falsified that video. Sounds to me like someone's just bitter that they can't get over 1000 points...

[colour_thief]

I can understand the kneejerk "it must be fake" reaction, but that guy took it way too far. All that work typing and he didn't even do the 30 seconds of research it would take to disprove his theory.