Tetris Party Tournament (Wii)

[lee n]

On December 1, 2008, the first of four separate Tetris Party Tournaments will begin. The first tournament will be composed of 4 individual rounds with each round featuring a different game mode from Tetris Party. At the end of each round, participants will receive a tournament ranking and special code to register here at TetrisParty.com.

Complete details, prize information and tournament rules will be available for review when the tournament begins. Be sure to bookmark this website for future reference.

http://www.tetrisparty.com/en_US/tournament/ (http://www.tetrisparty.com/en_US/tournament/default.htm)

[LANAsiDOOG]

sounds really cool... can't wait for it... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
also hoping tetris party comes out tomorrow... hehe

[jujube]

On December 1, 2008, the first of four separate Tetris Party Tournaments will begin. The first tournament will be composed of 4 individual rounds with each round featuring a different game mode from Tetris Party. At the end of each round, participants will receive a tournament ranking and special code to register here at TetrisParty.com.

Complete details, prize information and tournament rules will be available for review when the tournament begins. Be sure to bookmark this website for future reference.

http://www.tetrisparty.com/en_US/tournament/ (http://www.tetrisparty.com/en_US/tournament/default.htm)
so the game should be released on or before November 30th, unless the tournament date gets pushed back.

[DumbledorsArmy]

That really annoys the hell out of me..... They have done absolute DICK with anything like this for Splash on the 360. I would love to know why. From what I've seen and read about Party, I think it's gonna be pretty cool. Unfortunately no Wii for me...

[caffeine]

"Unfortunately no Wii for me..."

Trade it in like me.

[DumbledorsArmy]

"Unfortunately no Wii for me..."

Trade it in like me.

Wife won't let me...

Red Baron Pizza is giving away Wii stuff. (http://www.redbaronpromotions.com/default.htm) Looks like this is my best chance. Lol.

[caffeine]

Really? My girlfriend flipped out when I told her that I was getting a Wii.

[DumbledorsArmy]

She doesn't want to give up her poker buds. If I had my old job and was making the money I use too, it would be no problem.Yay for downsizing!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[caffeine]

Apparently someone at Kotaku (http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2008/10/tetris_part_could_pay_for_itself-2.html) spoke with HQ about the tournament.

Each phase of the tournament will feature a different mode - you earn points for completing each phase which are then tallied on the website. Potentially, you could still rank high in the tourney even if you miss a phase (hard to imagine, but that's what the PR guy tells me), but you'll want to get in as much practice with all the different modes as you can between now and December.

[PacoDG]

That really annoys the hell out of me..... They have done absolute DICK with anything like this for Splash on the 360. I would love to know why. From what I've seen and read about Party, I think it's gonna be pretty cool. Unfortunately no Wii for me...

It's because Hudson is a cool company

[kiwibonga]

That really annoys the hell out of me..... They have done absolute DICK with anything like this for Splash on the 360. I would love to know why. From what I've seen and read about Party, I think it's gonna be pretty cool. Unfortunately no Wii for me...

Well, at least you have a console with a software lineup that casts a shadow over pay-to-download Tetris. Not that every release of a Tetris game isn't met with a profound emotional and spiritual reaction from me, but still... :p

[DumbledorsArmy]

Well, at least you have a console with a software lineup that casts a shadow over pay-to-download Tetris. Not that every release of a Tetris game isn't met with a profound emotional and spiritual reaction from me, but still... :p

True. Lol. The main reason I would love to be able to play are that I feel somwhat let down by both versions for the 360. I enjoyed Evolution for a while, and it's still fun to play. But it feels so sluggish compared to Splash. I love Splash, but after all the various games modes in Evo, I was very let down with only marathon, 40 lines and online.

Party appeals to me in many ways:

The last Tetris game that I played on a regular basis was Tetris Plus for the PS1. As far as I know it had endless marathon. Sped up untill you died. I loved that version. Is that how it is on Party?

I know there are Items online. Think that would extend the life of the online aspect for the general public. Splash does not have many people playing it seems. Can you play without items online?

Co-op mode just sounds fun.

I'm sure there is more, but I don't feel like thinking about it anymore. Time to go get my ass handed to me in TGM for a few...

[PikaTheXIII]

I plan on entering, Hopefully I do good haha, anyone else gonna be in it?

[tetrisdude]

im so in!

[iphys]

They have details here, but I don't see it on the actual tetrisparty site yet:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Tetris-Online-Inc-Announces-First/story.aspx?guid=%7B5D46186D-4D00-436E-861C-ADFEED6043A8%7D (http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Tetris-Online-Inc-Announces-First/story.aspx?guid=_257B5D46186D-4D00-436E-861C-ADFEED6043A8_257D)

[Blink]

At the end of the
fourth round, Tetris Online will total up all rounds played for
each player and rank the top players on a score leaderboard
at www.tetrisparty.com/tournament (http://www.tetrisparty.com/tournament).
The top 500 eligible entrants on the leaderboard will receive
a Wii Points from Tetris Online.

so is the prizes just wii points?

[iphys]

Sounds like it, but at least there's a decent chance of making the top 500 and getting the Wii points. You'd think they'd have something extra for first place, but maybe they don't want people going too crazy trying to be #1.

[Blink]

Sounds like it, but at least there's a decent chance of making the top 500 and getting the Wii points. You'd think they'd have something extra for first place, but maybe they don't want people going too crazy trying to be #1.

probably first place gets more wii points than the lower ranks.

[iphys]

The info is up on tetrisparty.com now. Check the rules carefully, because it's not open to everyone worldwide. The prize is only 1200 Wii points, but I guess that way you can win back the price of the game. There's 500 prizes for US/Canada (minus Quebec and a few states that aren't eligible), and 500 for Europe/New Zealand/Australia, so you don't even have to compete against the Japanese.

[Blink]

aww it's a weak prize, but everyone who enters from TC should be able to get it. top 500 players is very generous.

[m:)]

do you have to play all the modes?

I haven't tried any thing but tetris marathon and battle modes.

[iphys]

No, you don't have to play all the rounds, but it might be hard to make the top 500 if you don't try to pick up some points in all 4 rounds. BTW, when you register it shows you all the tournaments, and the 4th tournament at the end of April will be World Battle, so you might be more interested in that one.

[m:)]

TERRITORY #1: EACH TOURNAMENT IN TERRITORY #1 IS OPEN ONLY TO RESIDENTS OF THE U.S. (EXCLUDING ALASKA, ARIZONA, ILLINOIS, IOWA, LOUISIANA, AND PUERTO RICO) AND CANADA (EXCLUDING QUEBEC), WHO ARE OVER THE AGE OF 13. IF YOU ARE NOT A RESIDENT OF THESE AREAS OR NOT OVER THE AGE OF 13, YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO WIN A PRIZE, AND TETRIS ONLINE, INC. ("SPONSOR") RESERVES THE RIGHT NOT TO AWARD PRIZES TO YOU.
http://www.tetrisparty.com/us_en/tournament/rules#one

my state is excluded http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif I was in the top 50 last night.

[Billmaan]

How exactly can they tell what state you live in? The state I'm in right now isn't eligible, but I can also claim residency in a state that is eligible...

[m:)]

they track you with your mac address, lets see if they can tell...

[jujube]

TERRITORY #1: EACH TOURNAMENT IN TERRITORY #1 IS OPEN ONLY TO RESIDENTS OF THE U.S. (EXCLUDING ALASKA, ARIZONA, ILLINOIS, IOWA, LOUISIANA, AND PUERTO RICO) AND CANADA (EXCLUDING QUEBEC), WHO ARE OVER THE AGE OF 13. IF YOU ARE NOT A RESIDENT OF THESE AREAS OR NOT OVER THE AGE OF 13, YOU ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO WIN A PRIZE, AND TETRIS ONLINE, INC. ("SPONSOR") RESERVES THE RIGHT NOT TO AWARD PRIZES TO YOU.
http://www.tetrisparty.com/us_en/tournament/rules#one

my state is excluded http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif I was in the top 50 last night.
looks like caffeine can't compete either (Louisiana). see what happens when you win the AT&T tournament! your whole state gets banned from tetris tournaments!

[iphys]

They might be able to tell where you are connecting from via your IP address, but even that wouldn't prove you weren't a resident from an eligible location. Worst case, it just says you can't win a prize, so if I were you I'd compete anyway. It says they will e-mail the prizes, so they're probably not going to actually care where you live.

Anyone else keep getting booted off the Nintendo wi-fi with a 91010 error when you try to compete in the tournament? So far I've only been able to play 2 games without getting booted off.

[caffeine]

Oh well, I traded in my Wii a few weeks back anyway. =b

This reminds me of when I won like fifty dollars one night playing some skill game website's version of Tetris. When I went to cash out, it told me I couldn't because of my state.

[Sully]

I was able to get logged into tetrisparty.com and I found this info on the current tourney, which I don't know if anyone else had seen yet:

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/9956/tourneyct9.jpg

I've never played those other modes.

And Tourney 2 is 2/1-2/15 Co-op Tetris Endless ON

[iphys]

I wonder how that Co-op Tetris tournament is going to work -- if it will be play with the computer or play with a partner or either option. The third tournament basically looks like a rehash of the first tournament. The World Battle tournament should be the craziest of the bunch: I sure hope they don't use the present rating system to rank people in that though.

[herc]

i am participating in the tournament. currently, i got rank 135 (europe rankings).
i try to improve.

here is the current leaderboard:

http://www.coreloop.com/dump/tetrisparty_leaderboard_06122008.png

it seems to me that the leaderboard already got compromised. is this highscore of 828098 really possible ? or is it fake ?

[Sully]

it seems to me that the leaderboard already got compromised. is this highscore of 828098 really possible ? or is it fake ?

With a solid ST stacking run, this score should be very possible. I had a 660k run with a ton of mistakes.

[herc]

whats "ST" stacking ? t spin stuff ? is there a strategy known to get high scores , besides weird tspins ?
currently i try to make back-to-back tetrises almost exclusively, with just some repairs if i did misdrops. i also noticedthat one gets a back-to-back and a 2x combo if you do two tetrises consecutively without stacking inbetween.

also - is there already more known about the scoring mechanism of tetris party? does score depend on level (drop speed) ? does it depend on drop height , i.e does it give more points if i drop a piece early vs just letting a piece settle without hard drop ?

[herc]

i just read the wiki about st - stacking, its understood. seems that it is time *sigh* to train t-spins.

[che_lives]

i was looking at the secong tournament.. do i need to start training someone for the coop mode? or can i get a partner online? the game kicked me out a few times in the first round.. if i try to top the score and it kicks me out.. im gonna be piss.. lol

[iphys]

I've been wondering about the co-op tournament myself. I'm hoping they'll give the option of competing with the computer or competing with another player locally, because not everyone has a second Tetris player hanging around. I doubt it would work very well with an online teammate because of lag, so I'm guessing that won't be an option, but that would be pretty cool.

For some reason I kept getting booted off whenever I was connecting over my wireless router with WPA encryption, but WEP I never seemed to have any problems with. It's kind of annoying, because WEP isn't really secure so I don't want to leave my router using WEP encryption, but every time I switch back to WPA I get 91010 disconnection errors, so I don't believe it is a coincidence.

[tepples]

WEP isn't really secure
Neither is wired networking. If you use WEP and MAC whitelisting on your AP, someone could break into your network with a significant amount of effort. If you use wired networking, someone could break into your house with a significant amount of effort. The point of Wi-Fi security in a home environment isn't to shut out crackers entirely but to make your AP less inviting than your neighbor's open AP. If you can prove that someone cracked your WEP key, you can establish the perp's intent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intent) to break and enter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burglary) your network.

Besides, what are you trying to protect? If they penetrate your network, so what? They get the Internet. They still need a name and password to get to anything else on your network.

[iphys]

The sort of people that would go to the trouble of going arond WEP security are probably the sort of people you don't want using your Internet, because they could be using it for perverted purposes. Besides, I use WiMax and it has a smaller bandwidth limit, so I wouldn't want other people leeching off my Internet.

[Rosti LFC]

The sort of people who would break into WEP security could also break into WPA. I don't see why someone would be willing to go to the lengths of breaking into WEP and not WPA. Or why they would at all when there are plenty of unsecured networks out there which could be used hassle-free.

And how likely is it anyway that someone is going to try and break into your network?

[Needle]

I don't see why someone would be willing to go to the lengths of breaking into WEP and not WPA.

If I remember correctly WEP nowadays can be cracked in five seconds while WPA still takes hours/weeks. Sounds like a large enough difference to me.

[cosmonaut]

by the way, cosmonaut is back.

[zarvok]

So I notice that on the leader board for the first round, I'm in 24th, but in the "my ranking" section of the website, it says I'm 23rd. Has anyone else noticed something similar?

I also noticed that both the America and Europe regions have one player way above the rest of the field on the leader board, in both cases at 883k and change points. I know in the American region that player held the top score from very early on in the tournament.

Maybe Nintendo planted this top score? That would explain why my leaderboard rank is one lower than my "my rankings" rank, and the similarity in the top scores in the two regions.

[tepples]

Maybe Nintendo planted this top score? That would explain why my leaderboard rank is one lower than my "my rankings" rank, and the similarity in the top scores in the two regions.
Or maybe the top scorer is being investigated for cheating. Or maybe the top scorer lives in a state with laws against this sort of contest.

[zarvok]

Or maybe the top scorer is being investigated for cheating. Or maybe the top scorer lives in a state with laws against this sort of contest.

These are, of course, possible - and not just of the top scorer but of anyone. However, if there were cheating investigations ongoing, I would guess our ranks on the "my ranking" page would still say pending. And, in the case of state law, I'd sort of be surprised if nintendo is tracking this now and updating their ranks (how would they know, anyway - IP addresses change and aren't always accurate at that level), rather they would just cut them out at the end.

Mostly, I'm curious - do european players have the same one-off thing going on?

[Billmaan]

Whoever wasn't counted, it wasn't #1. I'm 10th on the leaderboards and in "my ranking". It'd have to be someone ranked 11th-23rd.

[m:)]

Maybe Nintendo planted this top score? That would explain why my leaderboard rank is one lower than my "my rankings" rank, and the similarity in the top scores in the two regions.
Or maybe the top scorer is being investigated for cheating. Or maybe the top scorer lives in a state with laws against this sort of contest.


my suspicion is people playing on two accounts on the same wii. I live in one of these states, and am still given a ranking.
tetrisparty.com asks for the mac address on your wii.

[iphys]

I heard someone on the Europe board say they finished 20th but were ranked 19th. We were hypothesizing that perhaps someone that participated was from an ineligible location, but being as eligibility is based on residence, I don't know how they would know where you actually reside. The top scores seem very legit to me, so I'm pretty sure they weren't planted or obtained by cheating.

[m:)]

I went up three places myself in the last round.
I also saw some posts about this over on gamefaqs. i have a different handle over there.

You can only win once per wii, so you could place with two accounts and have one stripped away.

[che_lives]

So I notice that on the leader board for the first round, I'm in 24th, but in the "my ranking" section of the website, it says I'm 23rd. Has anyone else noticed something similar?

I also noticed that both the America and Europe regions have one player way above the rest of the field on the leader board, in both cases at 883k and change points. I know in the American region that player held the top score from very early on in the tournament.

Maybe Nintendo planted this top score? That would explain why my leaderboard rank is one lower than my "my rankings" rank, and the similarity in the top scores in the two regions.

im in 15th.. it says 14th.. i made a new profile and got a point to see out of how many...
*edit* out 4,247.. it got a bronze medal ¿?¿? ..lol.. i didnt notice.. that you get "medals" 1-30 gold? 31-500 silver? 501-4,247 bronze? i wonder..

[iphys]

Ah, I was guessing the number of competitors was closer to 5000 people, but it's nice to know how many there were. Probably most of the people that failed to make the top 1000 are no longer competing in the tournament, especially with Field Climber to dissuade people.

I didn't notice that it was a medal -- it just looked like some sort of seal showing that the results were finalized. I wonder if they made the top 500 gold, then silver, and everything after 1000 bronze.

So what are people hoping to spend the 1200 Wii points on anyway? I was hoping the prize would be 2000 points and then I could have got World of Goo, but 1200 points is 300 short. I'm hoping they're going to allow people to win more points in the other 3 tournaments, because it wouldn't be such a weak prize if you could stock up and potentially get as many as 4800.

[che_lives]

idk yet.. im just happy that i might get the tetris game for free.. lol

[iphys]

Art Style: Orbient looks like it might be a good choice -- it's well rated and only costs 600 points. I'd also suggest LostWinds (1000 points) if you don't have it yet.

So I've been wondering why they're having the 2 independent tournaments for Europe and North America, because it would make for a better competition to just have 1. Do you suppose it's because technological differences lead to a slight difference between how the PAL and NTSC versions of the game play, such that it's not strictly fair to compare the results?

BTW, I tried playing a game of Co-op with the computer and uploading my score in the records, but it wouldn't upload my score. It makes me suspect that we probably are going to need human partners in order to compete in the 2nd tournament. I don't know why they would disqualify the computer, because it's probably harder to play with than a person you can talk to, and it has an annoying habit of wanting to put all the pieces on my side of the screen at the start of the game and then topping out on its side of the screen in the higher levels even when there's still lots of space to put pieces on my side of the screen -- I can only play so well to save it from its own incompetence. Hmmm, wonder if there's a way for me to play with 2 controllers so I can just play the Co-op by myself and try to get enough T-spins to maximize my score before it gets too fast to manage 2 pieces at once -- if only I had more agile toes.

[m:)]

I didn't notice that it was a medal -- it just looked like some sort of seal showing that the results were finalized. I wonder if they made the top 500 gold, then silver, and everything after 1000 bronze.

So what are people hoping to spend the 1200 Wii points on anyway?


I got a silver and placed in the top 200

the art style games looks cool. I'm interested in all of them.

NES DK jr is really tempting. i don't know why i dont have that on my wii yet.

[iphys]

Hmmm, maybe gold was top 100 then.

I think I just discovered the craziest thing since playing Wii tennis with 2 Wiimotes. I put down 2 classic controllers on a pillow, and used my fingers to push the buttons on the top controller and my thumbs to push the buttons on the bottom controller to play Co-op mode. I only managed to make it to 30,000 points, but the really cool thing about playing in Co-op mode is you can do it all in T-spins since there are twice as many T's per line you have to clear. My main problem was accidentally hitting up when my fingers were going for left or right.

[m:)]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif
now thats got to get hectic. I'm to convince my wife to try and learn to play with me.
I think I could get her working a section.

that one is endless on correct?

[iphys]

Yes, I believe it is endless on. So far the record for local play is under a million, so it must be hard to get 2 competent Tetris players together.

[m:)]

it is strange to play, player one gets L,J,o and sometimes I while player two get z,s,t and sometimes I
you share the hold piece. and i might be trippin' but it really seemed like we shared the I's
i convinced the wife to sit and play, lol, it was harder then i thought. we got 20 lines after half a dozen tries.
if i can get her just a little interested she'll play with me more.

[iphys]

Yeah, I noticed something weird was going on with who got what pieces when I played with the computer, but I forgot after playing by myself. I gave up on using the hold piece with the computer, because it was too frustrating constantly thinking I was holding one thing only to discover I was holding something else. At least playing by myself I could just always hold T. Maybe you should get your wife to be player 1, because it would probably be easy enough for her to make nice stacks with those pieces if you just get her to stack L's together and J's together so that she never makes anything awkward out of them.

[iphys]

Hmmm, maybe I was wrong about playing with the computer, because when I went to update my score after playing with myself, it used my score with the computer instead of my lower score I got competing with myself. Strange that it didn't update before, because the update button wasn't greyed out or anything. I hope that means they'll let us compete with the computer, although that still kind of sucks, because I can't find any way to force the computer to be player number 1 so that I can get the T's and do T-spins -- might just have to settle for trying to get Tetrises, which is pretty hard unless you specifically make walls for your Tetris column to stop the computer from taking singles on you. I wonder if they planned the co-op tournament for February thinking everyone will spend Valentine's playing this with their s.o.

[che_lives]

Hmmm, maybe gold was top 100 then.

I think I just discovered the craziest thing since playing Wii tennis with 2 Wiimotes. I put down 2 classic controllers on a pillow, and used my fingers to push the buttons on the top controller and my thumbs to push the buttons on the bottom controller to play Co-op mode. I only managed to make it to 30,000 points, but the really cool thing about playing in Co-op mode is you can do it all in T-spins since there are twice as many T's per line you have to clear. My main problem was accidentally hitting up when my fingers were going for left or right.
nah.. i think gold was just the first 30ppl.. the ones in the leaderboard.. 31-500 silver.. theyre giving away 500 prices.. so..

ill have to beg my friend to play with me.. its going to be hard.. "hey, want to spend a few hours playing tetris and try to top the score?"

hes pretty good.. he doesnt really like tetris.. his rating on the ds was like 6700..

[Jeff]

Hmmm, maybe gold was top 100 then.

I think I just discovered the craziest thing since playing Wii tennis with 2 Wiimotes. I put down 2 classic controllers on a pillow, and used my fingers to push the buttons on the top controller and my thumbs to push the buttons on the bottom controller to play Co-op mode. I only managed to make it to 30,000 points, but the really cool thing about playing in Co-op mode is you can do it all in T-spins since there are twice as many T's per line you have to clear. My main problem was accidentally hitting up when my fingers were going for left or right.
nah.. i think gold was just the first 30ppl.. the ones in the leaderboard.. 31-500 silver.. theyre giving away 500 prices.. so..

ill have to beg my friend to play with me.. its going to be hard.. "hey, want to spend a few hours playing tetris and try to top the score?"

hes pretty good.. he doesnt really like tetris.. his rating on the ds was like 6700..

About the bolded part: I was rank 91 in the first tourney, marathon, and got a gold background...gf was 16x, silver background. so it's most likely top 100.

For those trying to upload their codes for field climber(2nd round), it seems to be working now, so get to it!

[m:)]

my code for round two was accepted today.

[zarvok]

Anyone else having trouble submitting scores for round 4? The fourth round ranking button hasn't shown up in the same place as the others for me. But I see on the website some others have successfully submitted...

[iphys]

Yeah, it was pretty slow showing up last night. At one point there were 4 people that had submitted scores on the American board even though it wasn't showing the submission option for me, so I couldn't figure out how those few people managed to submit their scores. I eventually submitted from the records section of the game instead of the wi-fi section, and I was only about the 9th person to submit a score, so I'm not sure if the option showed up there sooner than in the wi-fi, but that might explain how some people were able to do it while others weren't.

The confirmation code submitted first try for this round, but it still says "pending" for points, which is kind of annoying.

[m:)]

how can people take 3 minuets to finish stage racer without a game over.. i'm missing something. does the game last longer if you let the T fall on it's own??
strange.

[zarvok]

Yeah, the whole thing takes longer if you're not holding down, because the screen scrolls slower. To get 53:68, which appears to be a perfect score, you must hold down the entire time and reach the end as soon as it shows up.

iphys: if you can get the perfect score on this round, it looks like you'll win overall (at least, I think so, based on scanning the top few for each round). Awesome work!

[herc]

i wonder how the people with the perfect score are "sorted" in the top ranks? ist it: first come first place ? or is it just randomly shuffled? or what?
its relatively easy to reach this perfect 53:68, so it should be expected to have over hundred persons reaching it.
i would say: stage racer easy is just badly selected as a game mode for a tournament.

[zarvok]

If you look now, everyone with a perfect score is tied for first - I imagine we'll all get the full 1000 points, and the the first person with a non-perfect score will get (1000 - n) points where n is the number of perfect scores.

[iphys]

I think Bill is going to win, because he got 10th, 1st, 1st, and I got 2nd, 11th, 4th. I might have a shot at 2nd though.

I've been able to get 53:66 and 53:67 playing in local play, but the 53:66 gets recorded as 53:67 for some reason, so I don't think 53:68 is the best possible time even though that's all we're seeing on the leaderboard right now. All I was seeing in the records on the advanced courses was 53:68, but I got a 53:66 on the J course (which got recorded as 53:67) and a 53:67 on the L course. Unless they've changed something for the tournament, I should be able to record a 53:67. I'm waiting till the last 24 hours though, because the rules say ties get decided by who receives the ranking last, and it looks like there are going to be a lot of ties in this round.

[herc]

I'm waiting till the last 24 hours though, because the rules say ties get decided by who receives the ranking last, and it looks like there are going to be a lot of ties in this round.

what is this, ebay http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif ?!?!?

anyway - i like this mode much more than the field climber or the bomberman puzzle mode. those latter were really annoying and frustrating.

[iphys]

I think they were scared of more than 500 people being in a tie for prizes, so they just came up with some arbitrary way to break ties. I would have thought first should get rated better than last though, because the person who achieves the score first probably took fewer tries to achieve it. As it is now, the only reward you get for being earlier is you get your name higher on the list, but all the people tied below you are going to walk away with extra points. Sucks too, because it's not like you can improve on your time once you achieve the best possible time. I just hope it doesn't end up making the difference between making the top 500 and not for people on the bubble, because there could be a big difference in the number of points awarded to the first and last people to tie.

[Billmaan]

At this point it seems unlikely that 53"67 is possible (for tournament purposes).

Stage racer really doesn't belong in the tournament. Hopefully the stage racer round in tournament 3 will at least be difficult enough that we won't see many perfect scores. (Incidentally, has anyone checked out the shadow mode stage for tournament 3? It's brutal.)

[iphys]

Have you tried to get a 53:67 yet? I haven't, but I'm assuming we could actually play the game now and update later to get a ranking, since it's when you receive your ranking that determines the tie breakers. I'm not sure why the tournament version would be any different than the local play version, but I am surprised that no one has posted a 53:67 yet, so maybe there is some difference.

I'm looking forward to the advanced stage racer in tournament 3, because I'm sure there will be far fewer ties -- there's a portion in the advanced T course that looks just brutal, but I'm sure some people will figure out how to survive it at full tilt.

I've heard other people say the smiley face is tough, but I actually got that one first try, and I don't think it's that much harder than Bomberman. The shadow stages that I hated are the x-mas tree (level 9?) because there's so many ways to screw it up and that spaceship one (level 20?) because it's hard to get the starting structure and there's a line clear early on that you have to start thinking about at the same time.

[Billmaan]

I've played a few rounds of "perfect" stage racer and can't get better than 53"68. I haven't gotten 53"67 offline either though, so who knows.

"Smile" isn't too hard to finish. However, because it requires clearing a line, I find it very difficult to play at full speed. Moreover, there's not a lot of generic free-form stacking -- just about every piece you play needs to be placed carefully. It really feels like the bottleneck is in your head, not your fingers (which I didn't think was the case with "Bomberman").

[iphys]

Geez, I wonder if I'm the only person getting the 53:66 and 53:67. So far, I've got 53:66 on beginner Z and advanced J, and I got 53:67 on beginner J/L/S/T and advanced L, and I often got the 53:66 or 53:67 time before I ever scored a 53:68, so it didn't seem that rare to do better than 53:68. If the 53:66 time can't be recorded as any faster than 53:67 because the developers thought it was theoretically impossible, I wonder what is so peculiar about my system that it is allowing me to score these times. It's not like I've modded it or anything, and the system has never acted strange in any other way, so there doesn't seem to be anything broken with it. Crap, if I do manage to post a 53:67 in the tournament and I'm the only one, I hope I don't get accused of cheating or something.

[colour_thief]

Can you mash the down button faster than the autorepeat or something?

[iphys]

I don't think repeatedly pressing down helps, because the screen scrolls smoothly rather than row by row. If you ever accidentally let go instead of holding down the whole way, the screen scrolls more slowly, so I think you just lose time every time you depress the down button rather than gaining time for getting in extra presses.

I assume the rate the screen scrolls is determined by an integer number of frames per row, so it doesn't make a lot of sense to me how there could be a discrepancy of 1/100 or 2/100 of a second for the best possible time. There are also a few people posting times of 53:69 and 53:70, which surprises me that people are capable of making a mistake so small, so maybe there is some sort of calculation error that is causing some people to get slightly lower or higher times than 53:68. Could some sort of variation in the hardware used in the Wii cause this?

[Jeff]

i've tried to break 53'68...no dice on this stage racer.

....I'd rather have a more difficult challenge like the previous 3, than have to slog through dozens of people with the exact same top score. That's the problem with easy tournaments, they have no way of separating the chaff from the rest.

iphys: perhaps it's the other courses that promote the record breaking? i imagine it might have something to do with the piece length. Speculating, of course.
the hundreds of the second discrepancy might happen at the end, if they were a bit behind in trying to cross the finish line...


as for shadow field: smile; it isn't too bad, if you remember the key factor is to plan ahead and use a line clear to 100% the puzzle.


gf and I tried a practice run at the endless co-op...planning tetris'es at low levels isn't too bad. it's when you have to work with your partner at high speed that it gets tricky...especially since you only have one save slot for the both of us. generally we found that keeping the hole near the middle is optimal...and +, if it's neccessary, communicate what you need with your partner, they can pass it to you via the store piece slot. definitely will need practice on both of us, but I'm pretty confident of our skills to rank high for that one...just hope we have enough time to stay online to post the score for it! (why oh why does endless have to be ON?!) plus, i hope there's no cap as to how many points one wii can win! XD

got about 60 lines starting at lvl 15...not too shabby for a first shot i think.

[tepples]

I just realized something: A variant of the "Playing forever" pattern (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/../wiki/index.php/Playing_forever) that CT and I designed would probably work great with co-op. One player gets the pieces for one side of the pattern, and the other player gets the pieces for the other side. And only one of the two players (STZ) needs hold; the other (JLO) just needs a bunch of previews (which the game gives). Imagine:
|                    |
|                    |
|      I    I Z      |
|L  J  I    IZZS     |
|L  JOOI    IZTSS    |
|LLJJOOI    ITTTS    |
`--------------------'

[colour_thief]

Is TP's Doubles mode bag-based?

[m:)]

Is TP's Doubles mode bag-based?


player 2 gets z,s,t player one get L,J,square and you share I's

[colour_thief]

I realise that, but are each player's subset of pieces given out by the bag?

[jujube]

player 2 gets z,s,t player one get L,J,square and you share I's
why would they design the game this way? it sounds..boring.

[tepples]

Is TP's Doubles mode bag-based?
It seems that one player gets bags of [IJJLLOO] and the other [ISSTTZZ]. I might verify it for sure some other time. One advantage of this build over the standard Playing forever pattern is that the STZ player can build a bit slower, meaning the step where the JLO and STZ stacks change sides isn't needed.

[iphys]

The IJJLLOO and ISSTTZZ bags sound right, because I noticed sometimes you could get 3 of the same thing in a row, which never happens with the normal 7-piece bag. I guess that means you could potentially get 4 of the same thing in a row -- ugh.

It's annoying that they made this decision, but I think they wanted to try to force people to cooperate rather than playing their own separate games on each side of the screen, not that it makes a lot of sense that they decided to then give each player the pieces that are most compatible with each other. Mainly it ticks me off, because when you play with the computer it gets all the T pieces, so it's impossible to do any T-spins unless you can steal them from the hold and get them into a T-spin notch before the computer puts something else there, and the computer just loves to commit suicide by stacking STZ on top of one another.

[Pineapple]

Ok... give me a longish video of TP doubles, and I'll transcribe it. 5 minutes should be enough.

[iphys]

Here's some details on the Co-op tourney:

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release ... 41384.html (http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Tetris-Online-Inc-941384.html)

1200 Wii points for the top 100. It says it's a competition for highest score and lowest time to complete 150 lines and you have to survive 5 minutes, so I don't quite understand how all that's supposed to work. The details on the website said it was endless, but 150 lines suggests it's endless off.

[Kitaru]

..., but 150 lines suggests it's endless off.Does it? I'm pretty sure all it suggests is that it'll be keeping track of lines cleared, which is no new news. :p

This is what I got out of that: Endless, must survive at least 5 minutes, and time/score upon passing 150 lines will be recorded.

[t-block]

...but why wouldn't they use the final score, since Endless Off seems to test how long you can last rather than how fast you can go/how many points you can score. This way why not just play Endless Off?

So I totally did not get my confimation code for Round 3 in on time =( bawwwww

[iphys]

The deadline was just 5 hours ago I guess. Those confirmation codes are troublesome, but you should still be fine for top 500. It will be interesting to see what the cut-off will be for the top 500, because I'm guessing it will be below 2000 with all the people missing rounds or confirmation codes. At the very least they could have given people till the end of the tournament to just submit one confirmation code for all 4 rounds.

You don't happen to live in Halifax do you, t-block? I'm looking for a partner for the co-op tourney.

[t-block]

Yeah I know I'll still place. I'll just add the points I would have gotten to see where I would have been and that's good enough for me. Still mad at myself though =(

And no, I'm in western Canada, or I'd totally help you out. I'm gonna have to start training my sister for that @.@

[m:)]

i tried to train my wife, it didn't happen http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[t-block]

DEAR IPHYS

HOW THE HELL DID YOU DO THAT

[zarvok]

yeah, congratulations iphys - pretty impressive, I really assumed it just wouldn't be possible in the online version.

[iphys]

I don't know if it's some random thing I'm doing different or something unusual about my console. Half the time I get 53:67, and half the time I get 53:68, and once in a blue moon I get 53:66 (but it only gets saved as 53:67 in the records of the game).

[Zircean]

Wow, iphys, nice job there. Sure is lonely at the top, huh? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

So if I understand this right, people entering the co-op tournament play doubles locally, and then send their scores later. You can't co-op with people over wifi, I guess?

[iphys]

I recorded if you want to see what I did: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=bH5sCPFvri8

Yeah, I don't think Co-op in going to work with partners over wi-fi, but they really haven't said much about how the competition is going to work.

[Billmaan]

For anyone who wants to try to get a 53"67, I would suggest turning Mii display, BGM, and SE off, and setting the background to "none". After making those changes, I just got my first 53"67 (after many 53"68s). My money would actually be on Mii display being the culprit, since in the past I'd already tried playing with no BGM or SE, and with the plain background.

Of course, it could also be blind luck.

[iphys]

I'm pretty sure it's not specifically the Mii display, because that's the thing I changed most recently, probably only a week ago, but turning everything off might be the best bet if it saves on the processing time.

[Billmaan]

Well, I did only play two or three games with Mii display on, but with no sound and a plain background. I might have just gotten unlucky.

[iphys]

I tried to turn the sound off to see if it was any more likely that I could get a 53:66 again, but so far no luck.

I was just talking to a computer geek friend of mine, and he says computers have 2 clocks, interrupt driven, and real time. The interrupt driven clock is supposed to be more accurate than a real time clock, but the processing time depends on the number of higher priority interrupts, so either way there could be error, but if the game is using an interrupt driven clock that could explain why different game settings might influence the time.

I wonder if just having the Wii console connected to the Internet for tournament competition might also make faster times less likely. I don't think it would be that uncommon to want to turn off the annoying background or walking Mii, yet almost everyone has been getting the 53:68 time. I wonder what backgrounds people use that get the 53:69/53:70 times.

[Lenna]

iphys, congrats. Though I hate you now http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

Seriously, is the difference between a high score or not for this round going to come down to whether or not i turn off additional graphical displays? If so... this is bullshit, and it doesn't seem like a 'skill' competition anymore.

*tries alternate strategy of trying to resubmit the same high score at the last possible moment to get a higher rank*

But yea... don't really feel like replaying this round 100 more times just to save 1/100th of a second by saving one frame. I think my thumbs will break off before then.

[Billmaan]

Seriously, is the difference between a high score or not for this round going to come down to whether or not i turn off additional graphical displays? If so... this is bullshit, and it doesn't seem like a 'skill' competition anymore.To be honest, this round is kind of BS regardless. Any competition where there's an easily-achievable "best possible" performance is pretty lame. At least they're giving us a harder stage racer round in tournament 3. :/

[iphys]

Don't hate me -- hate Bill, or whoever posts the last 53:67, heh heh. The tournament is really only about being top 500 anyway, but yeah, it's BS if your time depends on settings in the game that they don't tell you will influence your results when you set them. This round would have been better if they'd done a cumulative time for JLSTZ, because the SZ courses seem slightly trickier, and it would have been harder to pull off a perfect time on all of them, especially if you had to do it all in one go. Honestly, I wish they would have just stuck to standard Tetris and maybe had a Marathon speed run or consecutive Tetrises challenge as one of the rounds.

[Billmaan]

It's entirely possible that Tournament 3 Round 1 will be a Marathon speed competition. All we know so far is that it's Marathon, endless off...

[iphys]

Hmmm, I hope not, because I'm better at scoring T-spins than doing speed runs, and all 4 rounds would be speed competitions then. Still, I wouldn't mind a Marathon speed run in place of Field Climber, Shadow, or Stage Racer, because at least it's actual Tetris.

I tried to register my 4th confirmation code, but it still shows round in progress and won't allow me to submit my code yet.

It looks like for the Co-op you have to go in to multi-player to sign in your 2nd Mii, then go to the Nintendo wi-fi connection to compete; otherwise it shows the computer's face for player 2 and I assume the result gets recorded as "GUEST" or something.

[Lenna]

It looks like for the Co-op you have to go in to multi-player to sign in your 2nd Mii, then go to the Nintendo wi-fi connection to compete; otherwise it shows the computer's face for player 2 and I assume the result gets recorded as "GUEST" or something.

I hope not - though I turned off Miis from the last round, so I wouldn't know; and it looked like i uploaded my score.

I'm more curious to find out if my pathetic score (59k) is good enough to hold up for the top 500 (Yes, I played both sides... did pretty bad around level 6). And... is it just me, or is in-game endless OFF, yet on the ranking website it says endless ON?

EDIT: Forgot to ask this, but it looks like I got 3rd for round 4 - did anyone else get 3rd? Or did my strategy of submitting my score at the last minute yesterday actually work?

[iphys]

It doesn't even record the name of player 2 on the leaderboard, so it actually doesn't matter whether you go into multi-player first or not. I think I will still do it though, because I hate seeing the computer's face staring at me. It's probably just one of those buggy things that it automatically uses the computer's face since you would normally be playing with the computer in Co-op if you haven't signed in a second player in multi-player.

Heh heh, I wonder how many of us are playing Co-op with our imaginary friends instead of real ones. I think we'll need scores more like 300K, because the prizes only go to the top 100 for this tournament, and there will be a fair number of people who have real teams capable of getting mostly Tetrises.

Yeah, it looks like they lied to us about it being endless ON (not that I've made it to 150 lines to verify that the game truly ends there). They don't seem too careful about double-checking the details for the tournaments. Even the 5-minute rule is dumb, because there are speed demons capable of completing the Marathon in under 5 minutes if you got 2 of them together, and it's pretty easy for anyone to make it to 5 minutes by simply not dropping the pieces.

[zarvok]

EDIT: Forgot to ask this, but it looks like I got 3rd for round 4 - did anyone else get 3rd? Or did my strategy of submitting my score at the last minute yesterday actually work?

It looks like we all got 3rd. The bit about the tiebreaker is probably just therein case there are overall ties.

[Billmaan]

EDIT: Forgot to ask this, but it looks like I got 3rd for round 4 - did anyone else get 3rd? Or did my strategy of submitting my score at the last minute yesterday actually work?

It looks like we all got 3rd. The bit about the tiebreaker is probably just therein case there are overall ties.

Actually...

I suspect they broke ties in order of who submitted their score first (i.e. exactly the opposite of how they said they would). The game did tell me that I placed first, but after entering my code on the website it says I'm second. (I was tied only with iphys, and submitted my score second.)

[iphys]

Aha, so that's how I got the 1000 points. I can't believe they've been so bad with the details on the web site. At least it doesn't make any difference to the final results for me and Bill, but there are going to be a bunch of ticked people that read the rules and waited only to get screwed out of a lot of points. Well, maybe they'll fix it after the complaints roll in.

[zarvok]

Hmm... I'm not so sure. I just double checked and I was wrong. I'm rank 90, with 911 points. I was one of the first 5 to get the second best score, so I think they must have broken my tie the way they said they would.

[Jeff]

Aha, so that's how I got the 1000 points. I can't believe they've been so bad with the details on the web site. At least it doesn't make any difference to the final results for me and Bill, but there are going to be a bunch of ticked people that read the rules and waited only to get screwed out of a lot of points. Well, maybe they'll fix it after the complaints roll in.

LIKE ME T_T;;;

edIt: rank 44, 957 points. submitted on 29th of January. so later is better, sadly enough, it seems.

as to the next tournament: are they asking for score run, minimum live for 5 minutes? really confused as to what the 5 minute requirement is...

my gf and i already have an offline score of 212k, after dry-running a few runs, some on endless off, and some games starting @ lvl 15...So i think we'll be ok!
I make her do all the t-spinning work (at least for the early levels), it's only fair because she beats the pants off me in tetris -_-;

If you're really pining for a partner in Toronto, post up!...maybe I'll help you out http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif if it doesn't kick me off the leaderboard, that is http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[zarvok]

Hmm... I'm not so sure. I just double checked and I was wrong. I'm rank 90, with 911 points. I was one of the first 5 to get the second best score, so I think they must have broken my tie the way they said they would.

This is really annoying, too. It will probably cost me a few spots in the overall standings. It makes way more sense to give everybody with the same score the same rank, and break ties in the overall scores (where they will be much less common)

[m:)]

Hmm... I'm not so sure. I just double checked and I was wrong. I'm rank 90, with 911 points. I was one of the first 5 to get the second best score, so I think they must have broken my tie the way they said they would.

This is really annoying, too. It will probably cost me a few spots in the overall standings. It makes way more sense to give everybody with the same score the same rank, and break ties in the overall scores (where they will be much less common)


i got 917 points, rank 83

I submitted my score last week, at around position 130.

seems kinda random

[iphys]

Someone at gamefaqs says that Co-op only actually goes to 100 lines for the tournament, which might explain why the scores are so low so far. If it's true, scores will probably only be half as high as if it were 150 lines, so you might only need around 150K to make the top 100. I haven't made it to 100 lines, so I can't verify. If it's true, it's amazing that they've managed to bungle things for the tournaments as much as they have.

[m:)]

the tourny's about as random as the tie breaker. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[iphys]

I just tried restoring the background to default and turning my Mii display on, and I still get the 53:67 no problem on stage racer, so maybe that has nothing to do with it afterall. Maybe the 53:67 Bill got was the equivalent of the rare 53:66 that I get, rather than anything to do with the game settings, but I still don't understand why my console seems to be .01 seconds faster than everyone else's.

[m:)]

quite possibly a lot of people saw the high score, achieved it, and never tried again.

however, i haven't looked at the leaderboard i recall you saying no one posts .67's?

[iphys]

Yeah, I'm sure more people would have tried to get a 53:67 if they knew that it was possible. Still, it must be incredibly unlikely for people to obtain it, if 200+ people got a 53:68 between the 2 tournaments with none of them happening to get a 53:67 before getting a 53:68. Bill said it took him many attempts to get it, whereas I got it on my first actual attempt at a perfect score in the tournament and get it about as frequently as I get 53:68 in local play, so I don't understand why my console seems to give faster times. Just the fact that I have scored three 53:66's that get recorded as 53:67 in the records suggests my console is giving me times that shouldn't be theoretically possible.

It's harder to get a perfect time on the advanced courses, but there are thirteen 53:68's on the leaderboards (mainly on the J/L courses that are slightly easier), and just my two 53:67's on the J/L courses.

[Lenna]

Damn, only top 100... looks like i might not stand a chance in this round unless I find someone else of a decent level... which doesn't seem likely based on people I regularly see.

Theoretical maximum for 100 lines is 330000 (minus hard drops), so I'm not really sure if it is capped at 100, since highest score is 299k right now.

*ponders*

[Billmaan]

Damn, only top 100... looks like i might not stand a chance in this round unless I find someone else of a decent level... which doesn't seem likely based on people I regularly see.

Theoretical maximum for 100 lines is 330000 (minus hard drops), so I'm not really sure if it is capped at 100, since highest score is 299k right now.

*ponders*
Just out of curiosity, how did you compute the theoretical maximum? It's not clear to me how you'd do it. With regular marathon mode, one in seven pieces will be a T, so you can make about one T-spin for every three lines; in particular you can't clear only TSDs, and you probably shouldn't even think about TSSes. In this case though, the well is wider, so you get more Ts per line and can clear only TSDs and TSSes. The kicker, though, is that you could potentially get far more than one T out of every seven pieces, by having the player who doesn't get Ts play very slowly. The more Ts you get, the more TSSes you can make instead of TSDs...but it's not clear how many more. Maybe you can clear only TSSes, or maybe you can clear about half TSSes and half TSDs, or maybe it depends on the level (since as the level increases, the player not getting Ts can't play as slowly). It's (potentially) not an easy problem to analyze.

[Pineapple]

I've lost track of discussion here. This is 20 wide doubles play, with one player getting [AABBCCD] and the other getting [DEEFFGG], right? A lot depends on how the T and I pieces are available. If I remember correctly, one player gets all the T pieces, which means that you can inflate the T-spin ratio by having the non-T player stack much faster. In fact... player 2 gets [ISSTTZZ], yes? If so, then he can set up for ST stacking mostly by himself.

[iphys]

B*B has already scored over 330K in Europe. ST stacking should get you over 400K if you forgo the last Tetris, and LST 440K. Doing all T-spin line clears should minimally get you 71 T-spin singles/doubles for 560K, and potentially more if you obtain extra T's by having player 1 play slower or you allow the screen to fill up to obtain more pieces, so even scores over 600K should be theoretically possible.

It looks like we might only need 140K for top 100, which should be easily attainable by playing with both controllers and doing lots of T-spins for the first half of the game. It's really only the last 2 levels that are difficult to play with both controllers. Furthest I've made it is 93 lines, but it's hard to do T-spins after 70 lines, because you don't really have time to ignore your other piece while you soft-drop the T's. You can abuse the hold to give yourself extra time, but by the time you get to level 10, even that doesn't help.

[EnFuego]

It isn't very hard to get a good score. I played with my roommate who is worse than me (I am just an average player) and we managed to get 285k. Have the person doing I/J/O blocks go as slow as possible. This gives you the most t-blocks to use and helps the worse player not mess up.

[t-block]

Yeah the way I got my score is to have one person set up ZT stacking on the right side, then use SL or ZJ notches to keep the pattern up. The person on the left side then only has to stack properly, and can stack slower - all he has to do is bring the L or J over when it's needed. We got TSDs up until ~line 86 because my brother kept messing up lol, but we should be able to do better.

[EnFuego]

If you staircase along the right side you can cut off the left player completely

[iphys]

If player 1 isn't a complete noob, you could get them to stack LO blocks for you in columns 8/9/10, and you could do the ZT part in columns 11/12/13, which would still leave 7 columns to either side to stack with. That way they wouldn't have to bring the pieces all the way over to the right side of the screen for you, which might be problematic at higher levels. It would probably be more liable to lead to confusion, but doing LST in the middle of the screen and mirroring the LS with JZ would be some crazy fun co-op on the T-spinning setups if you have 2 good players.

At this point I've given up on trying to survive the marathon, and I'm just doing as many T-spins as I can for as long as I can last at it, because the T-spins are worth so much more than regular line clears that it's better to try to get a few extra T-spins in than get another 20 lines cleared.

BTW, have you guys noticed that it looks like you can actually magically hard drop pieces through each other's pieces? I assumed it would drop on top of a falling piece and then fall with it, especially since the ghost piece gets blocked from appearing at the bottom of the well, but strangely that doesn't seem to be the case.

[t-block]

I never thought of doing it in the middle lol... definitely gotta try that, since I think it's the scrambling to get L/J over that's messing my brother up at higher levels. It's too bad you can't find a partner though, but mad props for still scoring so high. I could only hit around 130k when I tried to run it solo - I think you still have a really good chance to place.

I never thought pieces would collide in mid-air... it'd be really awkward if you were both at the same height and had to pass the other to get to the other side.

[Kitaru]

I never thought pieces would collide in mid-air... it'd be really awkward if you were both at the same height and had to pass the other to get to the other side.I never thought pieces wouldn't collide in mid-air, haha. I can think of reasons it is that way, though. The lack of entry delay could make coordinating a pass tough, for example.

(EDIT: That didn't stop Kiwamemichi from having solid active pieces, though. It must just be the catering to casuals factor, although I have to say that it was intensely amusing to play Kiwamemichi with a friends that only play casually. The most entertaining moments are when you are trying to push the stack back down and all three of the active pieces are crashing into each other and you're trying frantically to put everything where it needs to go, hahaha.)

TGM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcnBeg-Qkvg), Tengen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPPEKVUlY9w), and Kiwamemichi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b55PPr6I1nQ) Doubles/Co-op are examples of games that treat active pieces as solid. Tetris Party's wonky Doubles piece handling is something entirely new, haha.

[iphys]

The best way I found to play solo is I taped two wiimotes together. I have the hold set up as the B trigger, and I use my index finger on the top trigger and my ring finger on the bottom trigger so I can always hold in an emergency, and then I just move my thumbs up and down from wiimote to wiimote to alternate placing the pieces. Originally, I didn't think I'd make 200K, but I've still been improving my score, so 300K might be possible if I can squeeze in a few more T-spins. Anyway, doesn't look like top 100 is going to be a problem, but I'm just thankful the game only goes to 100 lines because a lot of people would score much higher than me if it actually was 150 or endless ON.

[EnFuego]

I also finds it sometimes glitches and changes blocks around if one person has a block underneath another one and you clear lines. The way I play is have it so player one doesn't actually have to do anything and I do all the hard work using only S/Z/T/I. It would be too complicated to explain what blocks to put where to someone else.

[Kitaru]

@iphys: Thanks for the description of the dual Wiimote grip. I recall things being excessively difficult when I merely tried to hold the two controllers together. Tape and the special grip for the B triggers should do the trick. I'll bring the Wii to a Wifi connection that doesn't require web log in and try it out.

I wish pointing was enabled for Doubles. Dual fisted Wiimote pointing would pretty much rule. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif
(Two arcade sticks or a keyboard would be superior, but I don't have access to the former and clearly there is no support for the latter.)

@En Fuego: Haha, man, Tetris Party Doubles just takes all the challenge out of it, eh? Being able to get a feel for what your partner is going to do is part of the fun. :p

[jjdb210]

Not that I want to give up positions 1 and 4 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif, but here's what 2 decently strong players did:

1st Player (the L's and Squares), would place an L block 10 spaces (covering 9 and 10) in and start off LT stacking.
2nd Player would build the notches on the right side, starting from column 12.

From there it was LT stacking the whole way.

The person on the left simply has to be able to stack the L's (and not stack to high so as not to be able to dig out.

The person on the right should be the stronger player with t-spins.

We always tried to keep the hold open for the person on the right.

The person on the right could call out for blocks (namely squares to correct any stacking problems).

Worked well for us... But I think we need to find a solid repeatable method for t-spin singles, as that would result in a higher score, and with the rotation being all funky, it's probably doable.

[iphys]

Details on the 3rd tournament:

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release ... 47039.html (http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Tetris-Online-Inc-947039.html)

No surprises. 1200 Wii points to the top 500 just like the first tournament. The marathon is endless OFF high score as before.

[zarvok]

Good call on taping two controllers together, iphys. I did this a few days ago and trained a bit and have now managed a score of 155k, which puts me at 47th and I'm sure will be good enough for a prize. I did ST stacking in the middle, but I'm a complete newbie at ST stacking and can't seem to keep it together past 60 lines or so.

It's definitely easier (at least on the slowish speeds) than normal single player ST stacking, because you have a much wider area to place everything else, and can set yourself up with one controller if you get a hard-to-place piece on the other - I have a lot of trouble recovering from errors while ST stacking.

Past 80 lines even just going for tetrises becomes too difficult to manage for one player (at least, for me) - too much to focus on with two pieces coming in at once.

[m:)]

how long did it take to get used to two controllers?
i tried three games and kept confusing which to use. Of course i complicated things by switching top and bottom to see which seemed more natural.

then i put it down and went and played TGM... because an hour of fun is more important then 1200 wii points to me http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[zarvok]

I played for 1-3 hours a day for 4 days or so, and got used to it enough to score in the top 100. It was pretty fun - I like new challenges. If it was unpleasant I probably wouldn't have done it. At first I just went for straight tetrises, and I would rotate from one controller to the next between every piece - that helped me keep them straight, but was ultimately too constraining to get enough points. I still have a little trouble keeping things straight - it took me many false starts to get the 155k

[iphys]

It should just take a few games to get decent at it, but if you try over a few days it gives your brain time to adjust and get better. It helps that you know JLO belong to controller 1 and STZ belong to controller 2, so you can generally tell which controller to use just by looking at the piece. If you consistently alternate between the controllers with each piece and always look at your other piece as your "next" piece rather than the next boxes, it should help keep you from getting mixed up.

[iphys]

I just did a practice game in local play starting on level 7 to see if I could get more accustomed to handling the T-spins at that speed. It felt pretty comfortable, so then I went online and pulled off 354K off 89 lines. It's amazing what a little practice can do!

[EnFuego]

So I wonder how many people were holding out to submit their high scores on the last day... 406k doing ST stacking for singles instead of doubles. BTW did anyone get rewards for first tournament yet? It says my final ranking is 32 but it doesn't say how to get rewards.

[m:)]

i would imagine another week before we get the prizes.. i got 85th


*rewards will be delivered via email

[zarvok]

Yeah, the rules say it might be another week or two and that we'll get an email.

I finished 12th - does anyone see a list of the overall top scorers somewhere?

[EnFuego]

I couldn't find anything on the site about the top overall finishers. It does say under #10 in official rules you can send a request for the winners of a tournament. But, they might just give you the top in each round not the overall

[Jeff]

thanks on how to get the code, i thought i was missing something when i got my rank...

speaking of which, rank 9...thank god for field climber!

[iphys]

Just in case anyone was still wondering, I did finally get an "all clear" off a triple to verify that the bonus is indeed:

400 x (1 + number of lines cleared) x level number

so apparently they are simply using the T-spin scoring formula to calculate the all clear bonus.

[iphys]

My points just came, and they have to be claimed in 10 days, so check your inboxes.

[durga2112]

Cool, I got mine too. It's weird, though - it says I was 35th out of 500, but I don't remember ranking higher than about 49th in any single round. Oh well.

Now I just need 100 more Wii points for World of Goo. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[iphys]

I think with people missing rounds or not entering confirmation codes or only aiming for 2000 points, there were probably not a lot of people with over 3000 points, so people could rank much higher than their individual performances just by doing consistently well.

I'm going to get World of Goo too -- just need my points from the Co-op tourney, and then I'll finally have enough.

[durga2112]

I was hoping to get points for the co-op tournament, but alas, my wife and I only placed 282nd. I'm still very proud of that ranking, though, as I have nearly 20 years more experience than she does - we learned to play pretty well together, and I've certainly never had more fun playing Tetris. I've found it amusing reading about all you guys with your dual controller setups, but I didn't want to try it that way. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[m:)]

got my points despite living in an ineligible state http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

[t-block]

Just out of curiosity, how many points did everyone end up with? It says I was 11th with 2842 points, but I missed 985 points when I missed the Shadow deadline, so I'm just wondering where I could have ended up.

[deepdorp]

Just out of curiosity, how many points did everyone end up with? It says I was 11th with 2842 points, but I missed 985 points when I missed the Shadow deadline, so I'm just wondering where I could have ended up.

i had 3208 at 90th place on the 'my ranking' page of TP tourney page, but my email quoted 85th place. that is weird if you placed higher with a lower total score.

[iphys]

It sounds like they ranked you based on your actual placings rather than how many points you submitted confirmation codes for, so maybe the confirmation codes were just a bunch of meaningless nonsense. Did you initially try to submit your confirmation code when it wasn't being accepted? Maybe they gave people slack because of that.

[EnFuego]

It says on the website that I came in 32nd and in the e-mail it says 28th. The website ranking is probably the ranking you actually came in but, the e-mail ranking is the ranking you received based on the total points where you submitted a confirmation code. It says I scored 3612 points in total

[herc]

yippi, i got 1200 wiipoints, too!

my ranking:

Tournament #1 Summary:
Period: December 1, 2008 – January 31, 2009
Your Final Rank: 38 of 500

(europe region or such - i am from germany)

[m:)]

i had 3208 at 90th place on the 'my ranking' page of TP tourney page, but my email quoted 85th place. that is weird if you placed higher with a lower total score.


3230 and my 85th turned to 80

[t-block]

That is weird o.o

Tournament #1 Summary:
Period: December 1, 2008 – January 31, 2009
Your Final Rank: 11 of 500

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d169/squirtster/tetris1.jpg

If I had gotten it in on time, I would have had 3827 points, so I guess they did count my Shadow score?

[iphys]

That's ridiculous, but at least you didn't get ripped off for missing the deadline on the silly confirmation codes. It seems to suggest they never needed to have the confirmation codes in the first place if they knew how many points you earned in shadow anyway.

I'm still wondering if the reason the Endless ON Co-op mode only went to 100 lines is because they meant to limit the winners to top 100 and limited the lines to 100 by mistake.

[t-block]

Yeah I'm happy I guess =x This whole tournament has been a mess.

Endless ON scared me when I first saw it... an endless competition would turn into an endurance test, since I'm sure there are a few pairs out there that could last indefinitely, even if they cranked it up to 20G.

[iphys]

I feel like such an idiot: I just went and tried beginner's Tetris, and it is completely trivial to get all clears and the scoring is identical to the regular game, so I could have saved myself a lot of trouble in figuring out the scoring. It's actually surprisingly fun to play trying to get as many all clears as you can and hearing the dramatic all-clear tones play over and over again. I think the highest you could potentially score would be close to a million if you could all clear off every line clear, and I managed to get 717K. I wonder if they specifically decided to use the T-spinning formula so that the high scores in beginner's Tetris would be similar to the high scores you can get in normal Tetris. I almost wish they would have had a beginner's Tetris round in one of the tournaments, because it is way more fun than field climber and it would have been less trivial than that beginner stage racer T route.

[durga2112]

It's actually surprisingly fun to play trying to get as many all clears as you can and hearing the dramatic all-clear tones play over and over again.

I agree, especially since the number of all-clears is actually kept track of. It's easy to bypass this mode altogether, but it can be a lot of fun if you're looking for a slightly different Tetris experiemce.

[iphys]

Anyone notice that it now says stage racer is round 3 and shadow is round 4 if you login to check my ranking, but the press announcement said the opposite? I wonder if they changed it or if it's just another error. I guess it will be a mystery what we're actually doing till round 3 rolls around.

[durga2112]

Has anyone received any points for the second tournament yet? My Points Received are currently listed as "Pending" on the website. My wife and I only came in 282nd place, but as strange as this whole series of tournaments has been, I'm wondering if we'll actually end up receiving any Wii Points for our efforts. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[iphys]

No, I imagine it will be a couple weeks before they distribute the points for Co-op. My rank still said pending when I logged in this morning. I somehow doubt 182 people above you would have submitted multiple scores on one Wii or failed to register for the tournament, so they'd likely have to screw up the awarding of prizes for you to get points, but I wouldn't put it past them.

[herc]

well, it seems as if not many people participate in the tournaments at all.

for "co - op endless" the online rankings for region europe only shows 464 submitted scores...
and for "field climber" round3 whe have only 113 submitted scores, yet.


how many scores were submitted in other regions ?

[iphys]

There's usually about twice as many people in North America, but the participation in the tournaments has been pretty weak and declining I think. They should have had some cool prizes for the top scorers to help generate more interest in the tournaments and to encourage more competition, because most people seem satisfied to just make the top 100 or 500 and get their Wii points or else they can't even be bothered to deal with all the hassle of the confirmation codes just to get the Wii points. I hope the last tournament will be better, because battle is the most popular game mode, but it's going to suck if they allow people to cheat by disconnecting or playing dummy opponents non-stop on a second Wii.

[EnFuego]

I think it is going to be a random pairing with another person who wants to do battle mode for the tournament. So whoever plays the most will have the best chance of winning because they can play the most easy opponents.

[m:)]

^^^ yeah, i agree, round four will most likely be a contest to play the most games.

[t-block]

Round 4 seems silly... I don't think there's enough of a player base in this tournament to justify a Battle Ranking round.

Tourney #2 prize e-mails have been sent out btw.

[zarvok]

Tourney #2 prize e-mails have been sent out btw.

Yeah, I cashed mine in and bought megaman 3 on the virtual console. Now I've earned twice as many points as the game cost, which is nice. These tournaments should feed my virtual console habit for a while.

[t-block]

I hate the stupid smile.

That is all.

[m:)]

i can't update my score for the smile round.

it's like i haven't played the round when i go to update http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif

[Billmaan]

i can't update my score for the smile round.

it's like i haven't played the round when i go to update http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif
Are you sure you got 100%? Earlier I thought it failed to save my best time, but I realized later that I must have filled in an extra space.

[m:)]

positive i got 100%, the game even saved my best time.
at first i wondered if it was because i did the run on the 15th before you could check your records. so i did it again.

it still saved my prior time as the high score, but when i go to update it doesn't list my time.

[iphys]

That sucks. Maybe if you beat your record it will let you upload your score.

[m:)]

That sucks. Maybe if you beat your record it will let you upload your score.

sure enough, that worked.. the old score sucked anyway i beat it by 25 seconds.. i just hate that mode.
i played stage racer early and it let me update.

i wonder what's going to happen when it comes time to enter the codes, and it's for stage race not shadow http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

[herc]

Tourney #2 prize e-mails have been sent out btw.

Yeah, I cashed mine in and bought megaman 3 on the virtual console. Now I've earned twice as many points as the game cost, which is nice. These tournaments should feed my virtual console habit for a while.

strange - i did not get any notification yet, though i seem to be around place 216...

"2/1/09 - 2/15/09
Co-Op Endlos Tetris AN
Meine Platzierung: 216
Erhaltene Punkte: 785 Status: "

my region is europe. might it be, that they forgot the whole european zone ?


another thing: can someone give me hints about how to solve the shadow - smile level ? i just cant get it right. is there probably some tutorial / youtube video showing how to solve it ?

[iphys]

You needed to be top 100 for the Co-op tourney. The 4th tourney is only going to be for the top 100 too.

Bill put a smile video up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmhWrlrahzY

[thylacine]

positive i got 100%, the game even saved my best time.
at first i wondered if it was because i did the run on the 15th before you could check your records. so i did it again.

it still saved my prior time as the high score, but when i go to update it doesn't list my time.


In the previous round 'Field Climber' my time should have gotten me 12th place, however after many attempts to upload it it still ranked me as 30 something. The score was saved and on the upload page was even visible. It looked silly that I had a faster time then the guy in 12th but it still ranked me lower.

It seems there are quite a few bugs in this upload process. I am just glad I didnt get a miracle round and then it didnt upload. This bug cost me 20 places. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

[herc]

IPHYS, thanks alot for the video. this gives me some hope to solve shadow smile.

[jujube]

sorry to go off topic here, but thylacine that was an awesome challenge mode game you played

http://zone.tetris.com/page/leaderboard

for #1 all time. i wish i could watch the replay but that feature isn't working for me right now (i'm running TZ in Wine on Ubuntu).

[iphys]

Thylacine, are you B*B on T Party? I saw your Survival video on Tetris Friends. I like how you practically have the ZT stacking down to an algorithm by doing the SL blocks and stacking IJO together.

[thylacine]

sorry to go off topic here, but thylacine that was an awesome challenge mode game you played

http://zone.tetris.com/page/leaderboard

for #1 all time. i wish i could watch the replay but that feature isn't working for me right now (i'm running TZ in Wine on Ubuntu).

Thank you sir.

The first eight minutes of the game was good but I cracked under the pressure in the final two minutes. I missed the level 23 checkpoint and seemed incapable of doing anything other than surviving at these speeds.... i am still working on it. The points I got were due to an almost perfect ZT stacking routine up to the point I lost control. I would love to hit the perfect game of ZT stacking to the end, but this will require a few more weeks(months(years)) of practice.


Thylacine, are you B*B on T Party? I saw your Survival video on Tetris Friends. I like how you practically have the ZT stacking down to an algorithm by doing the SL blocks and stacking IJO together.


I am B*B on 'Tetris party', I believe that simplifying the whole stacking routine is key to surviving at higher speeds. I was trying to write a response to the thread 'Sustainable ST Stacking' but was unable to get all my ideas down on paper. Perhaps I will attempt to collect my thoughts on the subject and post it, but it is very difficult to compress all my thoughts into a digestible post that makes sense.

[tepples]

If you do manage to prove ST or ZT sustainable, it would be an interesting counterpoint to the wiki's existing article about sustainable mostly-Tetris stacking (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/../wiki/index.php/Playing_forever) that I started and c_t finished.

[Billmaan]

IPHYS, thanks alot for the video. this gives me some hope to solve shadow smile.If you're still having trouble, I've improved the setup I used in the video. Now I try to start off with something like this: [fumen link] (http://fumen.zui.jp/?m105_40PdF3ibH3gbC3gbB3gbF3gbB3gbF3gbB3gbE39eB3Rp ?A3kz1lA39eRpA3lz1lvsKwkzgb9ejbRpib9eZiRprbAgbBe?k zEYhbwNQpgb8essMRcDgbkzQpgbwNcDibUKxNEYoU4G8e+?bAg b)
You get 50 skips, so it's not too hard to set up this exact layout. (If you're shooting for a really fast time, you may want to restart until you get a lucky piece sequence.) Make sure not to clear the line before placing the upper S and Z, or you'll leave yourself in a bad situation. This setup leaves you with a much cleaner stack after the line clear than the setup in the video does.

If you really want to squeeze every last second out of this setup, note that:
You can drop the O anytime after you've dropped the lower Z. You can drop the three-mino line anytime after you've dropped the S, and you can drop the T anytime after that. You have some flexibility in where to place the O, I, T, and three-mino line, so you can adapt to fit the piece sequence (if you can think that fast...I sure can't). You can start building on the left anytime after placing the O and I; a "downward-pointing" L works best. You can start building on the right anytime after placing the T; an "upward-pointing" J or a three-mino line works well.

[iphys]

I just tried doing the ZT stacking with the SL blocks, and it seems like the main benefit is you can focus specifically on how to best stack IJO together by keeping your attention on those pieces in the previews. I think having 6 piece previews is even more important in order to maintain it though, because with fewer previews it would be harder to stick with such a constrained way of doing the stacking when the unexpected comes your way.

Bill, that looks like the ideal way to do the line clear. You can also use the 3-cell corner piece in place of waiting for both S/Z pieces in the second bag if you don't mind leaving a 1-cell gap in one of the middle columns.

[zarvok]

Thanks for posting your initial set up bill. I was doing something similar, but seeing yours (and just knowing what you're doing is similar) helps a lot. Managed to get down to 30'48, though I'm not sure how much lower I can get (we'll see!).

thylacine - I'd love to hear your thoughts in the ST-stacking thread if you find time to type them up. I've been practicing a bit, though I'm still nowhere near as good as you and iphys.

[Shibby]

Hey people, I'm new to Tetris Concept and all, I got 5th in the co-op tetris wii tournament last month! (Aaron) and then I entered my confirmation code incorrectly so i got screwed out of my free wii points lol. Oh well. Couldn't help but notice a bunch of you guys were on that list with me, iphys and t block to mention a couple. I'm just learning t-spins in single player marathon so i'm not good enough to get real high scores, I mostly play for speed I guess. My tetris Friends time on facebook is 1:00.66 and (Aaron Enszer) and (www.youtube.com/shibbypod (http://www.youtube.com/shibbypod)) like 1:04 something on tetrisfriends.com for tetris sprint, 58 something on LJ. I play this as much as I can,mostly I'm just looking forward to the world battle tournament on the wii. What do most of you guys play normally? Certainly not Tetris Party, with all of it's lag time, and lack of actual modes..

Look me up on youtube or facebook and give me some pointers to improving scores/times. I play southpaw so I already know I am at a disadvantage because I stack with the ditch on the left.

[jujube]

I play southpaw so I already know I am at a disadvantage because I stack with the ditch on the left.
i used to stack the same way. it just takes a little practice to make yourself stack with the open column on the right.

if you already have Lockjaw, you could try Blockbox, Tessellate, and Texmaster. people around here play these games a lot.

[Shibby]

ok, i'll check some of those out. I'm trying to break a minute on sprint on facebook, i think part of the problem is my computer is has been getting pretty hot and it seems like the hotter it gets, the slower tetris moves http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif it would be cool tho to start getting better in the same clones as a lot of you guys, maybe work up a reputation for myself. I really haven't been a serious tetris player all that long. Less than 6 months on facebook (which is the main version I have been playing) and then a bunch of tetris DS. But I just got rid of my cartridge cause I bought an R4DS *(best friggin investment ever)*

[iphys]

Hi, Shibbypod.

I'm basically playing Tetris Party till the tournaments are over, and then I'll probably rarely play it again, because I'd rather play Tetris DS or start getting into the TGM games.

You should put Lockjaw on that R4 (and NDS_TGM_20080815.nds if you can still find it somewhere). Tetris DS is worth a lot now that it's no longer available, but I don't want to sell mine, because I like having the original, and I know it will still work on the DSi if I ever find a good reason to upgrade to one -- like if there's ever a DSiWare version of Tetris or something I absolutely must have.

[m:)]

HI Shibbypod,

as mentioned checkout blockbox. it's got real multiplayer. not to many people on the us site right now.

i only play tp for the tournaments.

[tepples]

Less than 6 months on facebook (which is the main version I have been playing) and then a bunch of tetris DS. But I just got rid of my cartridge cause I bought an R4DS *(best friggin investment ever)*
I still have my Tetris DS cart even after I bought my R4. It's just that the R4 lets me play Lockjaw too: look for lj.nds in your zipfile.

[Shibby]

Thats tight! Lj on R4? Im doin it. My TDS is also online compadible, and yeah i still have my cart too, just lending it to my friend who helped me get 5th on the co-op marathon tourney. I'll maybe try and sell it once he gets his r4. How much do you think it's worth?

Oh and is there a database or anything of peoples ds friend and tetris codes? Maybe i can start vsing some of you guys to help me get a litthe better.

[iphys]

I'd be up for some battles, especially once the T Party tournaments are over. Don't sell your TDS though, because it's kind of lame to use your R4 instead of owning legit copies of the games you really like to play. Plus, the value of TDS might keep going up the harder it becomes to find, so you might be able to sell it for more later if you really want to sell it.

According to this

http://news.vgchartz.com/news.php?id=3143

T Party has sold 123,200 copies in the Americas and 56,900 copies in PAL regions (and probably a lot more copies in Japan I imagine), yet there's never been more than a few thousand people competing in the tournaments and often only a few hundred. I guess most people just download the game, play it for 20 minutes, and never turn it on again. At least I don't feel bad about getting all these free Wii points knowing they are actually selling more copies of the game than it seems like, but it is sad that such a tiny percentage of people bother to compete in the tournaments.

[m:)]

i'll bet you many people in the tournament were discouraged after the first round of the first tourney.

i wonder what percentage of ownership can complete the 150 line marathon?

tetris will have a large install base, the game has been around for ages. i'll bet many people dl TP for nostalgia only.


tetris party did get me back into tetris tho!! I hadn't played since high school/college, and that's nearly 20 years ago. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

[Shibby]

Tetris friends on facebook is what gotme into it. I got tetris party the day it was released, and i only really participated in one tournament, the co op one. I love tetris tho and i think the most fun ones are the 40 line mode. It would be cool if tetris party had that mode and not so much line clear delay, and faster movement

[Shibby]

I'd like to introduce a new term to the tetris world. It can be used to describe what is happening while you are playing Tetris DS and the garbage lines line up perfectly for your opponant to drop a long piece in for a tetris, but any garbage lines sentto your side are so scrambled that they require you to clear them one line at a time. This situation can be referred to a "Fuck Mode". It makes you feel like the game has basically pre determined a winner, and uses this scenario to get it's desired outcome.

The application:

well, it looks like the game is in fuck mode again!

The only reason you won was because of fuck mode

Fuck mode ruins multiplayer Tetris Ds

These are some instances where it is acceptable to use the term fuck mode. Spread the word.

[Kevcel]

I'd like to introduce a new term to the tetris world. It can be used to describe what is happening while you are playing Tetris DS and the garbage lines line up perfectly for your opponant to drop a long piece in for a tetris, but any garbage lines sentto your side are so scrambled that they require you to clear them one line at a time. This situation can be referred to a "Fuck Mode". It makes you feel like the game has basically pre determined a winner, and uses this scenario to get it's desired outcome.

The application:

well, it looks like the game is in fuck mode again!

The only reason you won was because of fuck mode

Fuck mode ruins multiplayer Tetris Ds

These are some instances where it is acceptable to use the term fuck mode. Spread the word.

Fuck Mode?...Spread the word?...
I'd say: F*CK YOU! This has nothing to do with the topic! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif

The application:

well, it looks like the game is in fuck mode again!

The only reason you won was because of fuck mode

Only noobs say that http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

EDIT: Excuse me for my bad language...but I found it unusual...talking about tds and your ''fuck mode'' at a Tetris Party topic http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_question.gif

[Rosti LFC]

I don't the garbage imbalances ruin Tetris DS. It's put there to place a handicap on stronger players, by giving them harder garbage.
I never noticed it happening to me in games where the ratings where equal, and if it did it'd be a small number of times and it'd generally go both ways.

[Shibby]

Well excuse me. The topic was wandering anyway. At least i didn't make an ass of myself by going off like that.

Besides... Fuck mode is real! And i'm sure that it has a hand SOMEWHERE in the world of tetris party. When i find out where, i'll let you know. And thanks for calling me a noob. I couldn't already tell that i was based on how long i have been playing tetris and when i signed up on tetrisconcept. I need asses like yourself to really understand how much i suck.


And to the guy above, i definately have noticed this happening to me when i play players ranked with or above myself

[muf]

If you take time to look at the top DS screen you're bound to lose anyway http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[Kevcel]

Well excuse me. The topic was wandering anyway. At least i didn't make an ass of myself by going off like that.

Besides... Fuck mode is real! And i'm sure that it has a hand SOMEWHERE in the world of tetris party. When i find out where, i'll let you know. And thanks for calling me a noob. I couldn't already tell that i was based on how long i have been playing tetris and when i signed up on tetrisconcept. I need asses like yourself to really understand how much i suck.


And to the guy above, i definately have noticed this happening to me when i play players ranked with or above myself

- Again, I want to apologize for the way I reacted: yes, it was exaggerated http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif
- However, I do want to notify that I found it rightly to say something about it. You could have made a new topic about it or something.
- About calling you noob: don't take offence of it please...it was only meant as a joke, dude. What I meant to say:
ofcourse sometimes there are situations where some player might have a litte advantage...but that will also occur to you sometimes. When you get a bit more experienced, you don't even really notice it or you can find good solutions for the crappy garbage. I disagreed with ''that they require you to clear them one line at a time''
In any case, it isn't a reason to complain about...certainly not against your opponent: I'd find it disrespectful and that's why I called it ''noob''.

[I really didn't know you would take it so personally...dude! How could I really mean it if I have NEVER seen you play? And I'm not that good with tetris compared to hundreds others here http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif ]

I'd suggest to just forget it and bury the hatchet...no hard feelings.

Also, let us stop this discussion...else it would really be off-topic http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
I'd suggest you can contact me at #tetrisconcept at quakenet on IRC....or by PM or something, if you want to talk to me.

[Blink]

If you take time to look at the top DS screen you're bound to lose anyway http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

I disagree with this, i think most skilled players glance at their opponents field very often. This is in order to determine what to do according to the situation, such as whether or not to send lines, wait and counter-garbage, or start skimming.

[Shibby]

True.. We are now all talking about TDS. Maybe there should be a TDS specific thread? I call not it on making that thread

And consider the hatched burried

But it's still fuck mode, even if its in my favor, itwould just be fuck mode to the other player!

[tepples]

If you take time to look at the top DS screen you're bound to lose anyway http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif
During line clear delay, what is there to do in Tetris DS other than look up or in Tetris Party other than to look to the side?

It's too bad I don't have a local opponent at my strength; otherwise, we could do some research to see if "fuck mode" (which I'll define as a short-term imbalance in garbage dirtiness) exists in Tetris Party.

[m:)]

we could do some research to see if "fuck mode" (which I'll define as a short-term imbalance in garbage dirtiness) exists in Tetris Party.


it does exist. You do two tetris in a row, your opponent gets a perfect one column stack of garbage, which they tennis back at you leaving you with multiple garbage rows.

[jujube]

if you find yourself in fuck mode, then try trying harder, and then fuck mode won't be so fucking bad. you might even make the other player say "fuck die fuck!"

what i mean is, it's an opportunity to push yourself harder to improve, and if you don't take that opportunity then you'll always lose in these situations. if you keep trying then eventually you'll win consistently regardless of the messiness of your garbage, and you won't notice how messy it actually is. you're never going to win every game though.

[Shibby]

Encouraging words, jujube, no doubt about that. And i do believe there are signs of fuck mode in tetris wii, but i'll have to test it. Anyone interested in playing TP or TDS tonight? Jujube? iphys? anyone? I'm trying to get rid of my thick southpaw style of play and need some critiqing

[tetrisdad]

hi Everyone, Im new here. Finding it difficult to find my way around the site. I registered in hopes to find a Tetris party group or something like it. I know I just picked a thread and posted. Maybe someone can just point me in a direction. I think im pretty good, I have had a 9500+ rating in battle mode(no items). I only achieved that from playing terrible players, otherwise its nearly impossible. I'd like to meet some players and get that rating down to 7000 (where it should be). Thanks for reading, and sorry for interupting.

[jujube]

hi tetrisdad, good to have you here.

[m:)]

howdey tetris dad, there are a couple of us playing on tetris party. look for the TP friend code thread and add your code.
i'm just at 8,000, but i simply gave up playing random matches on TP after a couple weeks. there really isn't much competition
hopefully they figure out a way to thwart the disconnectors during the next tourney.

there is also block box for multiplayer, you'll find links to that site here as well.

[EnFuego]

Wifi battles are too annoying to play on TP. You wait 10 minutes to get a match that usually disconnects or you play an opponent who isn't worth playing because they are not any good.

[tetrisdad]

lets host our own TP tourney, Battlemode, we'll need 8 or 12 players to agree on a date & time, post a bracket of round 1 matchups, then the loser posts on a thread (each matchup consists of lets say best out of 7?) lets do this! we need to make this happen!

Ive not been having any success with friend codes that have been posted? anyone have any idea why? my wii accepted 1 of 4 i entered, then how does it work ? do i need to meet a friend in a room or???? Thanks

[EnFuego]

To battle people you friended you need to log on and host a room. When one of your friends see that you are hosting online they can join in on your game. I don't think there is a way to see what friends are online without checking to see if they are waiting for a battle.

[m:)]

you will actually see your friend is online if they are playing random.
however you need to plain ahead so your friend knows you open a room.

i play TP very very rarely, after the tourneys are over i probably wont touch it. I have other options to play.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1404 (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1404)

you can use your wiimote with your computer if your computer has bluetooth. check out glovepie (pc) or wiiji(mac)

[herc]

stupid confirmation code system... i forgot to submit the code for field climber.. its double frustration: the time i spent to get a acceptable field climber run was a frustrating time, and now i am frustrated that i missed to submit that stupid code, and now i probably wont winn the wii-points.

[m:)]

im skipping the last round of stage racer, i'm good already.

not many people are finishing the rounds this time. If you can net 2500 you should be golden.

I'm at about 2700 for the first three rounds.

[EnFuego]

It shouldn't be that hard to get your wii points. If I recall correctly someone said after the first tournament that they received score for one of the rounds they forgot to submit but that may have been due to an error in the submitting system.

[iphys]

Final tournament announcement:

http://www.marketwire.com/press-release ... 73547.html (http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Tetris-Online-Inc-973547.html)

1200 Wii points for the top 100. Sounds like we'll only be playing against other tournament participants from within our region. I hope that doesn't mean we'll have a hard time finding people to connect to, because the tournament participation has been so low that it does make you wonder. Better not wait till the end of the tournament and hope you'll be able to connect to someone, or you might not get a chance to compete at all.

At least if we're only playing against other tourney goers, it will probably be mainly the players rated 7000+ that bother to compete, so it should make for a better competition than the normal wi-fi. I hope that makes it next-to-impossible to max out your rating so that there isn't a tie for first place, although I guess that still might happen if they allow cheating.

[Billmaan]

Calling it now: this tournament's going to be a laggy, disorganized, disconnect-filled mess. (I believe the technical term would be "boondoggle".)

[durga2112]

Some people are funny. I played against one guy tonight and was about to beat him when he disconnected. My next match also ended up being against him, so what did he do? Stack his pieces straight up the middle and commit suicide in about 10 seconds, and then the same thing again in a third match! Thanks for the free points, guy. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[iphys]

Heh, the worst I faced was a guy who was soft dropping all his pieces. For the most part, the competition seemed considerably better than normal though, because I was losing about 1 in 10 games vs. 1 in 100 on the normal wi-fi. There were some funny Miis though, like a guy with big alien eyes and another guy with microscopic facial features.

[m:)]

almost every other match was against the same person for me, and he was a little better then me. i still went up a few hundred points in an hour.

so you still win if you get dc'd rite? those are the matches where the matchmaking is canceled pops up before the points?

[durga2112]

I wonder if I faced any of you guys. I was on from about 22:00 to 23:00 EST last night. My Mii has glasses and short, dark hair and a goatee. I'll see if I can get a picture up tonight - it would be cool if we could know at least some of the people we're facing.

[m:)]

i was on around then. i'll post my mii later tonight when i get home.

[Billmaan]

I agree, it would be nice to have a list of miis to reference. Here's mine: http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6104/miiz.jpg

[iphys]

Yeah, I was on last night from 9-11 ET, and I remember someone with a goatee. My Mii is pretty plain, so probably not very memorable.

Edit: Just added my Mii.

http://ratsnestcave.nfshost.com/Mii.jpg

[t-block]

So what's the round looking like so far? Better than we expected? I haven't been able to play yet thanks to exams =(

[Billmaan]

So what's the round looking like so far? Better than we expected? I haven't been able to play yet thanks to exams =(Fewer intentional disconnects than expected, but more unintentional desyncs.

[durga2112]

I had quite a few disconnects while I was playing. It got so bad for a while that I started snapping pictures of Miis that disconnected so that I could recognize them if they came up again and avoid playing them. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[jujube]

I had quite a few disconnects while I was playing. It got so bad for a while that I started snapping pictures of Miis that disconnected so that I could recognize them if they came up again and avoid playing them. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
wow that's hardcore. along with making a list of miis of tc'ers, there should be a list of dc'ers.

[iphys]

Heh heh, I was thinking of recording some of my games and then doing a youtube video of the DCers to publicly shame them. So far I'm not sure whether the DCs are due to lag or due to jerks though, because there usually seems to be lag before it happens. I just tried playing a 6-player item battle and got disconnected, and normally if a person leaves mid-game it just shows "out" in their well and everyone else keeps playing. I'm thinking they just don't have enough bandwidth for this game, especially with the tournament happening.

[m:)]

and mii

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h67/aktech23/photo-1.jpg

[durga2112]

Yeah, I was on last night from 9-11 ET, and I remember someone with a goatee. My Mii is pretty plain, so probably not very memorable.

Edit: Just added my Mii.

http://ratsnestcave.nfshost.com/Mii.jpg

I'm prettyy sure I played you a few times - I recognize the smirk. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[m:)]

http://ratsnestcave.nfshost.com/Mii.jpg


i should have recognized you. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif did we have a couple matches?



tonight i'm laying off the beers until after i play.

[durga2112]

Here's mine (apologies for the garbage quality - this was taken with my cell phone's camera):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v437/durga2112/mii.jpg

I'm on right now, BTW, and will be for as long as I am able to tonight.

[m:)]

i've seen you a few times, gg's!

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6104/miiz.jpg

[Jeff]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h67/a ... hoto-1.jpg (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h67/aktech23/photo-1.jpg)

tbh, i think i just got smoked by you half an hour ago...
I'm the chinese guy with glasses. It's pretty non-memorable

just started playing...don't even know if i'm going to bother with top 100, 3600 wii points should last a while already..

[m:)]

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h67/aktech23/photo-1.jpg

tbh, i think i just got smoked by you half an hour ago...
I'm the chinese guy with glasses. It's pretty non-memorable
..

been smoken some and getting smoked a bit as well tonight.

the beers catching up now, better quit before i start to train wreak

[Billmaan]

I don't think it'll take much to hit the top 100. I'm starting to think that cutoff will be no higher than 5500.

It's worth noting that people who can't get above 5000 will (probably) gradually stop playing as the tournament continues; this means that the standard of competition will rise. Hence it's probably easier to gain points now than it will be in a week...

[m:)]

yeah, in a week all the good players will start going down the way the rating systems works.

on a side note, i wonder if the game will use your final score or the last score you post http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_question.gif
take a nose dive, then don't update and i have a feeling it wont be reflected.

[durga2112]

Damn, Billmaan, that was a good one. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[durga2112]

Blah, Tetris and drowsiness do not mix. After more than 3 hours, I am now below where I started from after being up about 300 points. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[EnFuego]

Is it me or is there a giant time delay from when you get a tetris and the garbage appears? Btw my mii is the one with a black hat

[herc]

@En Fuego: i am noticing this too.

is it network lag ? or is it intentional, by game design ?

[durga2112]

on a side note, i wonder if the game will use your final score or the last score you post http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_question.gif
take a nose dive, then don't update and i have a feeling it wont be reflected.

The leaderboard still has me listed as 5532, even though I subsequently lost about 200 points before signing off last night. I'll have to see if I can get those points back before I update again. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[m:)]

Blah, Tetris and drowsiness do not mix. After more than 3 hours, I am now below where I started from after being up about 300 points. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

beer will have that same effect. you need to know when to stop.

I'm slowly adjusting to SRS.

[iphys]

Sometimes I see my opponent placing their first few pieces before I even get mine, so it seems pretty ridiculous that they can't even sync the start of the game properly. I'd rather have the wi-fi quickly transmit garbage than show me every move my opponent makes in placing a piece 10 seconds after it happened. If they were going to be so stingy with bandwidth or whatever is making this game so laggy, they should have just given us a height meter of our opponent like on Gameboy Tetris.