[TAP] Master

[Amnesia]

The best known performance is :

WR--ZAB--------------------Gm - 999 @ 07:26:73 - 07/01/11 - Orange line

The fastest known performance is :

--309---------------------m - 999 @ 07:12:56 - 09/06/11

as reported : http://www7a.biglobe.ne.jp/~tetris_holic/ranking_frame.htm

WESTERN RANKING


Rank--Name-----------------Grad - Lvl @ M. Time - Date - Comment

1--Kitaru-----------------Gm - 999 @ 08:11:48 - 11/19/11 - Best S9 in 08:07:96
2--K----------------------Gm - 999 @ 08:13:90 - 05/30/10 - Best M in 7:45:60 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg5GEDORYmM)
3--KevinDDR---------------Gm - 999 @ 08:21:71 - 05/08/11 - Best M in 08:10:68
================================================== ===================
4--TWF--------------------Gm - 999 @ 08:38:60 - 01/22/11 - Best S9 in 08:23:73
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5--Edo---------------------M - 999 @ 07:55:35 - 09/17/10 - Best S9 in 7:49:08
6--Amnesia-----------------M - 999 @ 07:55:41 - 12/01/11 - Best m roll in game : ~57sec
7--cyberguile--------------M - 999 @ 08:17:18 - 09/09/10 - Best S9 in 8:14:23
8--batfly------------------M - 999 @ 08:17:55 - 10/02/10
9--DeHackEd----------------M - 999 @ 08:17:65 - 02/18/11
10--colour_thief------------M - 999 @ 08:20:80 - 11/04/09 - 55 second m-roll survival
11--rednefed----------------M - 999 @ 08:28:01 - 05/28/11 - Best S9 in 8:24:78
12--EIHoppe---------------- M - 999 @ 08:32:45 - 09/16/10
13--Rosti LFC-------------- M - 999 @ 08:41:55 - 07/13/11 - BANG
14--COL-------------------- M - 999 @ 08:42:65 - 01/27/12 -
15--kx5---------------------M - 999 @ 08:44:95 - 08/27/10
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16--sjoecool1991-----------S9 - 999 @ 08:51:40 - 03/--/11 - Orange line
17--mfm005-----------------S9 - 999 @ 09:01:65 - 05/30/10 - Orange line
18--DIGITAL----------------S9 - 999 @ 09:09:18 - 04/27/07 - Orange line
19--mushroom---------------S9 - 999 @ 09:18:95 - 05/18/09 - Orange line
20--an ass-----------------S9 - 999 @ 09:19:08 - 06/16/10 - Orange line; Best S8 in 08:58:40
21--Goplat-----------------S9 - 999 @ 09:21:86 - 04/22/11 - Orange line
22--LOst-------------------S9 - 999 @ 09:22:15 - 01/06/10 - Orange line; Gold SK
23--clincher---------------S9 - 999 @ 09:24:35 - 10/19/11 - Orange line
24--mikehaggar-------------S9 - 999 @ 09:26:28 - 11/18/11 - Orange line
25--SoliDeoGloriaAA--------S9 - 999 @ 09:45:40 - 11/29/11 - Orange line
26--Free-------------------S9 - 999 @ 09:37:56 - 05/15/10 - Orange line
27--Zircean----------------S9 - 999 @ 09:38:13 - 06/15/10 - Orange line
28--tada-------------------S9 - 999 @ 09:52:35 - 05/20/09 - Orange line
29--moonair----------------S9 - 999 @ 10:25:68 - 05/06/11 - Orange line
30--mat--------------------S9 - 999 @ 09:06:86 - --/--/-- - On keyboard
31--Billmaan---------------S9 - 999 @ 09:47:90 - 01/10/09
32--Shade------------------S9 - 999 @ 09:58:01 - 05/23/07
33--steadshot--------------S9 - 999 @ 10:05:45 - 05/23/11
34--Ai---------------------S9 - 999 @ 10:07:40 - 12/26/09
35--Ken_P------------------S9 - 999 @ 10:19:96 - 11/01/07
36--Key--------------------S9 - 999 @ 10:21:61 - 12/01/11
37--PetitPrince------------S9 - 999 @ 11:04:51 - 08/10/11
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38--DDRKirby(ISQ)----------S8 - 999 @ 08:58:60 - 11/06/11 - Orange line
39--kotetsu213-------------S8 - 999 @ 09:07:45 - 02/16/08
40--etherstorm ------------S8 - 999 @ 09:28:66 - 08/20/07
41--Deeem2031 -------------S8 - 999 @ 09:30:01 - 02/16/11
42--Mr. Antisocial---------S8 - 999 @ 10:20:93 - 08/29/08
43--nahucirujano-----------S8 - 999 @ 10:21:96 - 06/05/11
44--cgwg ------------------S8 - 999 @ 10:26:03 -
45--Taratang---------------S8 - 999 @ 10:27:31 - 04/29/07
46--statikeffeck-----------S8 - 999 @ 10:30:88 - 05/30/08
47--Caithness--------------S8 - 999 @ 10:56:60 - 01/30/10
48--tet2brik---------------S8 - 999 @ 11:00:78 - 10/24/11
49--Poochy-----------------S8 - 974 @ 09:46:91 - 01/04/08
50--Quad-------------------S8 - 971 @ 10:04:43 - 02/22/09
51--gila-------------------S8 - 961 @ 10:11:23 - 10/25/08
================================================== ===================
52--Samael-----------------S7 - 999 @ 09:16:20 - 05/28/11
53--Tarto------------------S7 - 999 @ 10:28:70
54--SimMarine--------------S7 - 970 @ 09:20:00 - 07/24/10
55--Budster----------------S7 - 998 @ 10:00:18 - 04/06/10
56--croikle----------------S7 - 952 @ 10:17:00 - 06/28/10
57--mufunyo----------------S6 - 999 @ 10:07:95 - 03/18/11
58--moonair----------------S6 - 999 @ 10:27:65 - 03/09/11
59--Bou--------------------S6 - 999 @ 11:21:73 - 01/17/08 - Lucky...
60--CrazedRevenG-----------S6 - 962 @ 09:11:71 - 05/21/10
61--Xkeeper----------------S6 - 937 @ 09:35:76 - 02/20/09
62--deepdorp---------------S6 - 998 @ 10:33:73 - 10/16/08
63--Air Gear---------------S6 - 975 @ 10:53:91 - 02/26/08
64--MisterBenn-------------S6 - 916 @ 11:23:50 - 10/19/10
65--Leffe------------------S6 - 95- @ --:--:--
66--SYN7HOR----------------S5 - 924 @ 12:06:06 - 05/08/11
67--timc-------------------S4 - 788 @ 08:22:08 - 04/07/10
68--Ray Ayanami------------S4 - 837 @ 08:54:48 - 09/23/10
69--Kasumi-----------------S4 - 891 @ 09:59:90 - 11/07/10
70--shoryu-----------------S4 - 856 @ --:--:-- - 03/09/08
71--cdsboy-----------------S3 - 830 @ 09:22:28
72--Sy---------------------S3 - 82- @ --:--:--
73--Red Star---------------S1 - 641 @ 06:29:80
74--merpy------------------S1 - 706 @ 07:38:78 - 08/02/09
75--Burbruee---------------S1 - 681 @ 08:39:61 - 03/30/10
76--Gaby-------------------S1 - 719 @ 09:31:48 - 07/15/08
77--Ineluctable Entropy----S1 - 611 @ 07:24:18 - 09/24/11
78--kira-------------------S1 - 620 @ --:--:--
79--LordPie-----------------1 - 570 @ 07:43:10
80--NoTGhost----------------1 - 635 @ 08:08:58 - 03/20/09
81--Sigma Draconis----------1 - 599 @ 08:41:58
82--Dark2Master-------------2 - 521 @ 09:04:00
83--sihumchai---------------2 - --- @ --:--:--
84--floc4-------------------3 - 370 @ --:--:--

TAP Master mode rules :

1 : Reach lv. 999 under 8:45:00
2 : Reach lv. 999 with the S9 rank
3 : Do the first 5 sections (000-500) under 1:05:00 for each one
4 : Do at least 2 tetrises in the 5 first sections (000-500)
5 : Do at least 1 tetrises in the 4 following sections (500-900)
6 : Section 500-600 musn't be 2sec slower than the average of the 5 first one
7 : For the 4 sections (600-999), section x musn't be 2sec slower than section x-1
8 : Survive the invisible section at the staff roll during 1min

ADVICE :

A good target for level 500 is 4:55
Try to perform the 5 first sections in 59sec for each one.

This is the optimal and maximal time I recommend for the whole Master mode :

* 0 - 100 ---> 60 sec ---> 1:00
100 - 200 ---> 59 sec ---> 1:59
200 - 300 ---> 60 sec ---> 2:59
300 - 400 ---> 58 sec ---> 3:57
400 - 500 ---> 58 sec ---> 4:55
500 - 600 ---> 58 sec ---> 5:53
600 - 700 ---> 50 sec ---> 6:43
700 - 800 ---> 45 sec ---> 7:28
800 - 900 ---> 40 sec ---> 8:08
900 - 999 ---> 37 sec ---> 8:45

[colour_thief]

Sure, I'll help. Updated my personal best. I know I've had a slow S9 before, but I can't recall it so I'll live with my fast S8.

[Amnesia]

Yes, I know there is not on the list the best scores of needle, cqwg, shade and other...

[Rosti LFC]

Enough interest around for a TGM1 leaderboard thread?


I'll give master mode a shot later today.

[K]

Enough interest around for a TGM1 leaderboard thread?

I'll give master mode a shot later today.

yeah !

why several thread ?


why not just create a specific thread for all ranking ?

it could motivate us to play on each mode then...


and why not going deeper on the concept :

why not creating a clean HTML page or something ? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[colour_thief]

Enough interest around for a TGM1 leaderboard thread?

I'll give master mode a shot later today.


Absolutely. A year ago I could name every (well, every one that cared to interact with other players) Gm outside Japan off the top of my head... Now I don't think I can. I'm curious to see how many of us there are.


And I've been thinking about leaderboards too since they seem popular. Maybe a wiki page? I'm not sure... It's good to keep leaderboards visible to motivate people.

[cyberguile]

I think the forum should be splitted in a couple of sub-forums (something like "tgm" "tds" "herboris" "other tetris games" "random shit") and put such topics as annoucements (topics that stay at the top of the first page)

[Rosti LFC]

"Random Shit" might be a bit too offensive for a board title.

I'm all for having more than one board though. We've grown a fair bit since I joined.

Also:


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/Masterbest.png

The time was pretty good up until around 6 minutes. Things went a bit downhill from there.

[cyberguile]

Well, "tetris non-related things" then http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[colour_thief]

If you need any encouragement Rosti, level 750+ is a sweet spot for increasing grade. Also, S4 is extremely close to S3. So if you survived just a little more, you'd be S4.

[Rosti LFC]

If you need any encouragement Rosti, level 750+ is a sweet spot for increasing grade. Also, S4 is extremely close to S3. So if you survived just a little more, you'd be S4.

Is there anywhere I can find the grade points? They are not included in the Wiki.


Also, what do the little badge things to the right hand side of the playing field mean? They obviously have something to do with section times, as they appear when you cross a level boundary like 200 or something.

[cyberguile]

You should download the hack that lets you start at wanted level.

I did play a couple of days at 700~ last month and increased my skill pretty quick !

If you do a lot of tetris in this section, your grade will grow pretty fast

[Rosti LFC]

You should download the hack that lets you start at wanted level.
I did play a couple of days at 700~ last month and increased my skill pretty quick !
If you do a lot of tetris in this section, your grade will grow pretty fast

Surely I might as well just play Death?

[cyberguile]

Surely I might as well just play Death?

Death mode and high speed normal mode are different as what I have felt (lock delay and that sort of stuff aren't the same)

[colour_thief]

Actually, even though the timings are a little different that's a pretty minor detail that shouldn't impede progress at Rosti's current stage. And playing Death gives him the benefit of possibly setting a new record. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

And Rosti, the closest thing to an explanation on the grade points is this thread (http://www.tetrisconcept.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=361). I don't think about the technical details when I play. In the end you just have to play fast and get tetrises.

[DIGITAL]

Here's my first real attempt to reach 999. Master isn't as hard as I thought it would be. The only thing that bothers me is the annoying up down motion of sub-20g. That caused me to lag behind in time until it finally reached 500. Other than that, Master felt a little easier compared to Death. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[sihumchai]

Yeah, Up Down is quite bad if you don't have a joystick. Stresses the thumb too much for my poor wrists. I usually switch to TGM1 mode by holding down all the way. (x360 gamepad player)


Question is(maybe stupid):


Holding down > Up Down ?

[DIGITAL]

Yeah, Up Down is quite bad if you don't have a joystick. Stresses the thumb too much for my poor wrists. I usually switch to TGM1 mode by holding down all the way. (x360 gamepad player)

Question is(maybe stupid):

Holding down > Up Down ?


Holding down is much easier but it's also much slower. You waste many frames for each tetromino placement.

[Amnesia]

Also, what do the little badge things to the right hand side of the playing field mean? They obviously have something to do with section times, as they appear when you cross a level boundary like 200 or something.


AC : all clear : all stack clear

RO : rotation : ??????? (please explain to me!!!!!!!)

CO : combo : minimum 3 - 2 - 2 - 2 or 4 - 3 - 3 - 2

RE : recover : destroy fastly the stack after having been in anguish..

SK : skill : depend of the number of tetris

ST : section time : indicate you when you break your best section time


Only for the style, those medails don't bring anything for the grad.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

Good work DIGITAL http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif I add your S7..

[colour_thief]

RO is a gimmick that rewards you for ridiculous amounts of rotation. I'm very confused by its existence.

[sihumchai]

Newbie SRS players would get a kick out of it tho' http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Rosti LFC]

Up-Down doesn't bother me. I'd find it worse if I had a joystick. With a keyboard I just flick my finger off the up key and onto the down in one movement.

[Amnesia]

RO is a gimmick that rewards you for ridiculous amounts of rotation. I'm very confused by its existence.



I'm sure for one thing : it's not given with only one tetriminos..

I'll send you an inp (ta death 399) where I've made 2-3 spin with a J, and no medail..

[colour_thief]

RO is a gimmick that rewards you for ridiculous amounts of rotation. I'm very confused by its existence.


I'm sure for one thing : it's not given with only one tetriminos..
I'll send you an inp (ta death 399) where I've made 2-3 spin with a J, and no medail..


No, you must rotate excessively with most (all?) of your pieces. I don't think it's a serious medal... It's just for "fun".

[Amnesia]

Yes...

I think it's possible to catch the 6 medails..

ST SK RE CO easily..

AC with chance and for RO... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

I'm sure now ta death mode is sexier than master in general....

There are 18 (+mfm) people on the ta death ranking and 13 on the master ranking...

[cyberguile]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/904.jpg

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

[Amnesia]

ADDED http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
Those 2 ranking list are a good idea..That motive people since c_t and me have set its ..

[cyberguile]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/935.jpg

Enough tetris for this week, I'm off ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Amnesia]

T'en a pas mare d'etre S4??

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Sully]

I think the forum should be splitted in a couple of sub-forums (something like "tgm" "tds" "herboris" "other tetris games" "random shit") and put such topics as annoucements (topics that stay at the top of the first page)


I wholeheartedly agree. Nicholas- is this a reasonable request?

[colour_thief]

IMO there should be at most a forum and a highscore forum. I mean, this is Tetris. We don't exactly have a lot to talk about so splitting into a dozen forums will leave a lot of them inactive, even with our increased membership.


And Amnesia, you bastard, I keep editing in my improved 999 time of 9:05, and you keep changing it back to my older record. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[PetitPrince]

IMO there should be at most a forum and a highscore forum. I mean, this is Tetris. We don't exactly have a lot to talk about so splitting into a dozen forums will leave a lot of them inactive, even with our increased membership.

I agree. To many forum is bad. Fewer forum and some subject tags (something like "[TAP] Death Mode" or "[Lockjaw] 40 lines classic mode") is better.

[Sully]

IMO there should be at most a forum and a highscore forum. I mean, this is Tetris. We don't exactly have a lot to talk about so splitting into a dozen forums will leave a lot of them inactive, even with our increased membership.


A dozen is definitely excessive. Three or so is reasonable- perhaps one for the TGM series, one for SRS games (TDS, TE, etc.), and one for everything else? Just a thought.

[tepples]

I'm an admin, and I have the ability to implement any reasonable suggestion myself, but I'll wait for caffeine to sign off on something before I do anything drastic. Here's my suggestion:


Tetromino Games


Tetris Guideline

Discuss Tetris Worlds, Tetris Deluxe, Tetris DS, Tetris Evolution, and other official games made since 2001 (http://www.tetrisconcept.com/wiki/index.php/Tetris_Guideline).


Tetris The Grand Master

Discuss Tetris games published by Arika and their predecessors published by Sega.


Classic Tetris

Discuss Tetris for Game Boy and other Tetris brand games.


Fan Games

Discuss puzzle games made by fans.


Et Cetera


Offtopic

Digressions can be healthy, but "don't break the law" and "don't be a jerk" still apply.

[Rosti LFC]

Merge Classic Tetris + Fan Games simply to "Other Tetris Related Threads"

[cdsboy]

Merge Classic Tetris + Fan Games simply to "Other Tetris Related Threads"


agreed... otherwise it sounds like a good idea.

[caffeine]

i don't like it. sorry. i don't mean to be an ass or anything, but i really don't see any need for it.


shortly put: aesthetics do not justify increasing clickage.

[cyberguile]

i don't like it. sorry. i don't mean to be an ass or anything, but i really don't see any need for it.

shortly put: aesthetics do not justify increasing clickage.


Well, if you do not split the forum into a couple of sub-forums, interesting topics with completed discussion will disappear really fastly.

Making more sub-forums does not have a negative effect on lisibility though, thanks to the phpbb basic functions such as "see posts since last visit"

[Needle]

Tetromino Games

Tetris Guideline
Tetris The Grand Master
Classic Tetris
Fan Games



Many fan games have ties to existing official games, like Heboris and Shimizu Tetris being related to Sega/TGM and Cultris paying tribute to Game Boy (18 cells high well). IMO grouping fan games into one category doesn't work well when discussing such games.


That and the increased complexity issue.

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
Sorry my poor colour_thief...

Do you know the "French Touch"?


And be patient DIGITAL, I won't let you 4th Death Master long time.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[Rosti LFC]

Just to confuse me, I get a lower rank with a higher score and level than my previous best...


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/TGM2.png

[Taratang]

And a Bravo, good job!

[Amnesia]

Good rosti, I think your major problem is only about the maniability of TGM, try to reach lv 999 before decrease your time..

[colour_thief]

Nice S9 there Amnesia. And nice survival Rosti. I honestly think that's the measure of skill to go by untill it's not that big a deal. As you may recall, grade points decrease while a piece is active. So your late S1 is a result is a result of playing very slowly and also getting almost no tetrises. As you naturally speed up your play, you'll see a MASSIVE grade increase.


That's why I'm not worried about my S8 @ 9:05. I'm pretty sure that if I was playing fast enough to meet the 8:45 requirement, it would be S9.

[sjoecool1991]

http://aycu03.webshots.com/image/14002/2002730349822924041_fs.jpg
I don't know if this is any good, please tell me!

[mat]

well you have to take the screenshot with the field still visible or i have no idea how well you did... but if you're asking about order of grades, the secret grade is identical to the standard system (9-1-s1-s9-m-gm) and so, as far as that goes, no, that isn't any good. heh, but get a screenshot of the actual field! that can be so difficult... now, expert, would be completing it during the instant invis challenge after 999... any volunteers?

[cyberguile]

how do you get secret grades in tgm2 ?

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
HEY !! 8 lines in instant invisible!


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif Yet 3 years of training I think..


how do you get secret grades in tgm2 ?


Pareil que dans le 1 et 3! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[Rosti LFC]

how do you get secret grades in tgm2 ?


Same as TGM1. Make a > Sign.

[sjoecool1991]

I just figured out the ranking system for it.

If you get all the way to the right, you get S rank.

For every space to the left, you go up one S rank.

If you get all the way to the left, you get GM.

[colour_thief]

now, expert, would be completing it during the instand invis challenge after 999... any volunteers?


Holy crap mat, you're a genius. That's now right up there with my "most wanted awesome superplay" videos, right between single player Doubles play and playing Tetris 64 (the one with the ear clip that monitors your heartrate) while running on a treadmill.

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif OUff..


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif Jago : 56 ??

I'm not so far..

But we musn't forget the japan record is 48.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

[cyberguile]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/996_S5.jpg

Aaaaaaaargh !!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
After watching mfm's vid jago has uploaded, I heard a voice in my head saying "hey ! that's a very strange way to play, so many holes that you fill, such a big pyramid, so many tetrises ! I wanna test !"

So I tried to build HUGE pyramids, fill holes and of course, didn't do much tetrises as I kinda always panic when I come at the top of the screen http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
Arriving at 950, the stupid voice came back "come on, S4 only, DO MORE TETRISES". 996, game over http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

PS: Yeah, I know, that's an incredibly slow game, but as I wanted to test mfm's style, I almost didn't lock in 20G mode.

PPS: doing tetrises in the 900~section seems to increase ultra fastly your rank, no ? went from S3 to S5

[mfm005]

...

[Amnesia]

Modest mfm.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Mr. Antisocial]

Finally made S7.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/MrAntisocial777/MasterS7.jpg

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif Hou...a futur new challenger.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif


Almost the same records I had...15 month ago..


(just to give you an idea of the time to improve.. I've almost the same lag with Jago..)


Cyberguile and M. antisocial --> updated!

[cyberguile]

At last, I managed to reach 999 ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif (and S6 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif )


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/999S6.jpg

Go on to the next level ! Grad S9 will soon be mine http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
T'abuses un peu quand meme..Je pensais meme pas qu'on pouvait atteindre 13min..


You abuse a few..

I never imagined we could reach 13min in this Master mode..

Bravo for your S6.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[cyberguile]

colour_thief said something like "first, try to reach S9, then try to improve your time"

[Amnesia]

Don't listen colour_thief! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
His speed is insane (9min05, second best time after Jago) and he is still S8.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[K]

Don't listen to Amnesia !!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

1_ Building skill

2_ Grade

3_ 999

4_ Time attack

[colour_thief]

No, that's great cyberguile! Don't listen to him... It's still your new fastest 999 time (I'm counting TGM1 here) and I'm sure you'll improve it before too long.

[Needle]

sheesh, stop confusing the poor man http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[mat]

confused yer mom.

[Mr. Antisocial]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/MrAntisocial777/MasterS8.jpg

[Rosti LFC]

Yay for improvement:


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/Masterbest-1.png

[cyberguile]

Trying to improve time AND doing more tetrises:


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/886S5.jpg

[Amnesia]

AAhh!.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

(sorry for the new records of some people, I will update tomorow)

[colour_thief]

lol @ I've been updating them for you all along http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

And nice work there cyberguile. I knew you'd shave off a serious chunk of time before long. I'm not sure how you're playing, but 700 speeds up quite a bit so you might want to play less aggressively beyond that for now. Which S5 do you want in the charts? See, the game would call your current one better, as it considers only grade and then grade time. But we've been listing grade and survival.

[cyberguile]

Update with my next 999 speedy game (in less than a week) http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

PS: actually, my best was my S6 in... 13 minutes http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[cyberguile]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/999_S5_Faster.jpg

Stopped locking at 700.

Need to do more tetrises on the last sections now


I think I can improve around 1 minute just by locking every tetromino and another 30~40 seconds by doing only tetrises.

But I can't see how I can get the final 1 minute and a half to achieve the game http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

[Amnesia]

The same for me..

I don't know how I can save 35 sec..

I've watched the m rank of Jago more than 20 times..And each time I feel more and more far to get the m rank.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

[colour_thief]

I got my first fast S9! I'd like to give a special thanks to Amnesia, who reminded me I neglect Master mode.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/2051/s985756ar9.jpg

[Amnesia]

HA HA!!!

I love that!!

that excites me!

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif I'm not surprise of your score, it was evident I couldn't stay the third for a long time.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[colour_thief]

I think I can improve around 1 minute just by locking every tetromino and another 30~40 seconds by doing only tetrises.
But I can't see how I can get the final 1 minute and a half to achieve the game http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

If you do your calculation again, you'll see shaving those 90-100 seconds would put you at about 9:30, about where Amnesia is now. That's not a minute and a half... It's only 45 seconds away from M! (Though of course you also have to meet the 2 tetris per section/1:05 maximum section time requirements. I think you also need to complete the first 500 levels in 5:10 also, if my memory serves.)

Anyhow, here's something I wrote to Amnesia recently that I'll share in case it helps anyone:

All I've been doing is the same as the advice I gave you some time ago:

-Making sure that I completely charge DAS before the piece enters the screen so that it will start moving immediately. Not doing this will steal lots of your time if you're not careful.

-Making sure I place as many pieces as possible using DAS, using the techniques I showed you. Such as rotating or moving after hitting the wall.

-Making sure to not forget to play fast. This sounds stupid, but it is very easy to become lazy! Especially 600-699 and 800-899 I lose attention and "forget" I'm supposed to play fast. Instead I play at a slightly slower and comfortable speed.


Observation: The Master ranking is now strikingly similar to the Death ranking. cyberguile is 9th in both! kotetsu is 6th!

[Amnesia]

Observation: The Master ranking is now strikingly similar to the Death ranking. cyberguile is 9th in both! kotetsu is 6th!


Only DIGITAL is not in the good place in the death ranking!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[K]

I've also totally negliged master mode since i got the m rank.


this damn T.A. Death is boring me... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif
But i must finish with this one.

[colour_thief]

I've also totally negliged master mode since i got the m rank.

this damn T.A. Death is boring me... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif
But i must finish with this one.


To translate from jago-speak to english: When he says "bored" he doesn't mean it is making him fall asleep or is trivial and beneath him. He means it is frustrating/aggravating/consuming him.


And I agree. Death mode is definitely the sexier challenge, but Master is what we'll be playing more in the long term. There's simply a LOT to it, not the least of which is the invisible challenge. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

[Mr. Antisocial]

Yeah, I've pretty much abandoned death mode for now. Just too difficult and frustrating. I'm really getting back into Master Mode though. The gameplay is more varied and the goals are much more attainable (at least prior to M and GM rank).

[Amnesia]

Maybe what I will say is useless, but I think you are slightly unbalanced with your S8 rank and your lv.395, I think a S8 player can reach minimu 420 in DEATH mode..


I don't know why, but I feel the good balance between the two mode is important..


Actually I work about a (useless http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif ) numerical and iterative algorithm to edit the perfect equivalences between, based only on statistics from the records of everybody, for example mfm is surely the most unbalanced player of everybody here..

Actually the equivalence gives that in my mind :



Master ----- T.A. DEATH

  Gm ---------- Gm
   m ----------  m
  S9 ---------- 500
  S8 ---------- 450
  S7 ---------- 410
  S6 ---------- 380
  S5 ---------- 350
  S4 ---------- 320
  S3 ---------- 300
  S2 ---------- 280
  S1 ---------- 250
   1 ---------- 210


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[K]

I don't know why, but I feel the good balance between the two mode is important.. Exactly, and my skills in master mode have become weird !


edit : i mean skill balance.

[colour_thief]

Since I'm nearing M, I've looked up the special requirements. There's been a lot of hazy memories gradually distorting things, so I took the care to cross reference with actual videos and whatnot. This should be the most accurate description so far:


-all sections below 1:05
-2 tetrises each section from 0-699
-section 900-999 below 0:45
-S9 @ 999
-999 below 8:45



What should be "news" here is that 2 tetrises are only strictly required below 700. I believe this particular requirement has been described incorrectly from the beginning, and even this revised description needs further research before I'd say it's definitely true. But there's enough evidence to support it that I believe it for now. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

Overall, I find this heartening news. It means I am closer to M than I thought. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Amnesia]

-section 900-999 below 0:45


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif Aie..

I'm so scared to lose all my game so I decrease my speed to stay prudent at 900..My best is just 45..


I'm satisfacted we have a good discussion about Master mode, and with your new record, I hope that will motives more people for the master mode..


There is still a difference of size between the two ranking!

[mfm005]

...

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
I love this guy...

[mfm005]

............

[cyberguile]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/957S6.jpg

The stupid voice in my head started to scream at 900 "common, do TETRISES !!!!"

Without it, I would probably have done a 999 S7.

Next time, I will tell her just to shut up http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[colour_thief]

Alright, you're on a roll there cyberguile! Soon you might pass DIGITAL, a Death M. Go for it!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[DIGITAL]

Alright, you're on a roll there cyberguile! Soon you might pass DIGITAL, a Death M. Go for it!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif


That's it! I can't sit here and be calm when I'm being taunted like this. It's time to play a little Master... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif

[Mr. Antisocial]

Maybe what I will say is useless, but I think you are slightly unbalanced with your S8 rank and your lv.395, I think a S8 player can reach minimu 420 in DEATH mode..

I don't know why, but I feel the good balance between the two mode is important..




I see your point. Both modes compliment each other and neither one should be neglected.


Sometimes I just feel like I've reached my limits with death mode though... for now anyway.


...Plus, I have to stay ahead of cyberguile! I cant allow him to beat me at both death AND Master mode. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[DIGITAL]

.....My middle finger hurts now from dropping and locking for about two hours. I'm a little slow at the sub-20G sections but I compensated with speed in the 20G sections so it came out ok I guess. I also lasted through the semi-invisible challenge yay (barely).

[colour_thief]

Good stuff!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

That makes a "5 chain" in duplicating the Death table... kotetsu, the ball is in your court to pass mfm and continue the chain. Though I suppose mfm getting Death 500 would also work... Come to think of it, he's not even submitted a Death record yet!

[kotetsu213]

TAP MASTER IS HARD

[Amnesia]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


.....My middle finger hurts now from dropping and locking for about two hours. I'm a little slow at the sub-20G sections but I compensated with speed in the 20G sections so it came out ok I guess. I also lasted through the semi-invisible challenge yay (barely).




http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif Ah..


Beaten by two people in 2 days..

It's hard to assume..

[Amnesia]

Though I suppose mfm getting Death 500 would also work... Come to think of it, he's not even submitted a Death record yet!



mfm is not interested by Death 500 or death mode in general..

[K]

ayup !

people are becoming crazy http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)

[Amnesia]

We are entering in a crazy week like we have already seen in end of march..

I think I will definitly stay at the 5th place but I will fight.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
Hard session this evening to attempt to recover the 4th..

[mfm005]

...

[Amnesia]

Challenge spécial Amnesia: grade 1 avant le level 200 (ben S1 carrément) [24/03/07].



From :


http://mfm005.free.fr/tgm.htm


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif
Comment as-tu fait ça mfm..

[colour_thief]

don't count on me: i'm not a follower nor an idiot.


I'm a little confused... Are you calling all people who like Death mode idiots??

[Taratang]

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/Taratang/TAPS6.jpg

I've haven't really played the past few weeks, so I shocked myself when I sat down this afternoon and recorded my first TAP master mode clear http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

I feel motivated to practise more and improve again, yay! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[mfm005]

.........

[colour_thief]

don't count on me: i'm not a follower nor an idiot.

I'm a little confused... Are you calling all people who like Death mode idiots??
No, I just think you're an idiot if you don't like to do something but do it nevertheless because everyone does it. I could have explain a little better but Amnesia knows this and I'm lazy (hope you understand).


Ah, now I understand completely! Yes, people should absolutely play whatever they find fun. I think for most people, they enjoy the intensity of Death and the competition is just some extra fun on top of that.


Some days I just want to relax, so I play TGM+ or one-handed. Grr... I've reached 998 in TGM+ but never completed it. Has anyone yet finished it?

[cyberguile]

Challenge spécial Amnesia: grade 1 avant le level 200 (ben S1 carrément) [24/03/07].


From :

http://mfm005.free.fr/tgm.htm

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif
Comment as-tu fait ça mfm..


First try, got this:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/TGMS1200.jpg
Not that hard, actually, just need to do only tetrises and a couple of combos.

I'm pretty sure S2 is possible with a lot of luck (if you manage to do some combos that contain two tetrises and/or a bravo)

[Tarto]

After failing so many times, I finally managed to do it! Please add me to the ranking list, even if I won't be very high. I'm motivated to improve though!


http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t66/Tartoaujapon/TartoTAPMaster999S7.jpg

[Taratang]

Improvement, yay!


http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/Taratang/TAPS8.jpg

Shame it was slower than my S6 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

inp to follow

[Amnesia]

First try, got this:

Not that hard, actually, just need to do only tetrises and a couple of combos.
I'm pretty sure S2 is possible with a lot of luck (if you manage to do some combos that contain two tetrises and/or a bravo)


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

Tu es bien mignon cyberguile..


Are you sure you was in 20G mode??

I talk about reaching grad 1 at 200 but with the 20G code!!

[cyberguile]

Bah, euh:


http://mfm005.free.fr/photos/tgma.png

Chronomètre en blanc, rank en rouge = 20G ? je crois pas nan ?

De toute façon, la technique pour faire un max de point est simple: quand tu vois que la pièce suivante est une barre, tu fais des lignes, comme ça le tetris qui suit rapporte beaucoup plus de point (faut juste pas locker toutes les pièces comme un épileptique sans regarder la suivante)

[mfm005]

...

...

[cyberguile]

Yes !

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/fastfirstsection.jpg

First time I did the first section in 1min05

But hell, that's STRESSING

[kotetsu213]

I don't know how close Heboris is to TAP, but I just pulled off this:


http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/7326/hebomasters8995085525ry8.png

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqxPMU-xsBk

[colour_thief]

Not a proper new record for me... 999 in 8:55, though only S8 because I messed up near the end. I think I broke 500 under 5 minutes for the first time though.

[LOst]

Damn I need to pull of a miracle to pass level 900 alive. Not before I reach 999, I am willing to put my record here.

[Taratang]

Not a proper new record for me... 999 in 9:55, though only S8 because I messed up near the end. I think I broke 500 under 5 minutes for the first time though.Do you mean 8:55? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[colour_thief]

Err, oups. I've still got to get used to seeing that 8. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[colour_thief]

Just got another personal best time... 8:53. Unfortunately it was another S8. Getting close though!

[Amnesia]

I don't know how close Heboris is to TAP, but I just pulled off this:


I'm not sure to understand..

You did that kotetsu??

[colour_thief]

Yet another record S8 for me: 999 @ 8:48. I played really well, but again messed up the final section. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif I feel strongly it would have been M otherwise.

[K]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Amnesia]

Yet another record S8 for me: 999 @ 8:48. I played really well, but again messed up the final section. I feel strongly it would have been M otherwise.



http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif Pff...

[colour_thief]

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6752/s985306gz6.jpg
Another close one. Though at least it shaves 4 seconds off my previous S9 record! I think I did everything well enough, except I played 700-899 a little too slowly.


Also my screen is crystal clear... that's just a crappy photo.

[colour_thief]

I'm playing like crap today... My survival sucks... But...


I set a new 0-100 section time record!! (0:55:11)


This is special because it beats a record of my PCB's previous owner. This guy was good enough for M in 8:21... quite a bit better than me. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif It's the first Master Mode record of his I've beaten, so all the other section times below are his.


http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/9328/sectiontimesit3.jpg

[timc]

i can't get over how cool it is that you own a pcb -- it is just that much sweeter that the last owner was a pro as well

[jujube]

i can't get over how cool it is that you own a pcb -- it is just that much sweeter that the last owner was a pro as well

yes and ct i'm sure you don't have the same lag issues many of us do with MAME.

[colour_thief]

I played a little more today. I was still very unreliable, but I managed to crank out a new S8 record for me:


http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/554/s884283vt5.jpg

This is notable because it is finally below the 8:45:00 time requirement! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif Also, it's only S8 because I, yet again, messed up the last section. I'm getting pretty sick of doing this, because it's not bad enough to kill me just ruin my rank. I think I'll start building high before entering the last section so I can get a couple quick tetrises in.


I also got a 999 S6 below 9 minutes, which was kind of funny.

[K]

oh oh oh

soon the next challenge will be the m roll http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

Do you remember 3 years ago ?


holy shit how can those guys plays so fast ?!?


WTF !! invisible staff roll ??!? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Amnesia]

Whoao..

Colour_thief you are in trance on master mode..

I bet for your first m rank before the 3 next weeks.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
And 3 next years for me.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

[Amnesia]

http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/1871/1805072038bs3.jpg

Sorry colour_thief! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
Quick has done it before you..

[colour_thief]

LOL


I wouldn't let many pictures stretch a thread, but it's just too perfect for that one.

[cyberguile]

WTF is that burger ???

I wanna try http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Rosti LFC]

That would have made a far more entertaining line in Pulp Fiction.

[shade]

TAP Master: 9:58:01, S9


score 224427

medals: bronze RE, silver SK, gold ST

[Amnesia]

I needed a proof, we don't lose every skill when we don't play for a long period..Thanks, you incarne it verywell..

I have no reason any more to be anxious.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[cdsboy]

1 @ 623 - 7:52:73

[Air Gear]

From about 2 1/2 weeks ago:


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa61/qwAirGear/MasterS1.png

The TGM S7 would seem to imply that I could probably hit S2 now...might try that later.

[kotetsu213]

From TA (not TAP)

S8 999 @ 9:26.35 (are the grades the same?)

[colour_thief]

From TA (not TAP)
S8 999 @ 9:26.35 (are the grades the same?)


It's unverified. Though I would be very surprised if more of the game was different than the m-roll conditions. On that note, what do people feel about TA vs TAP? They're not different enough to deserve their own charts... I vote we let the records mingle.

[mat]

except the m/gm is so much easier to get in TA...

[Amnesia]

I think it's the same..

I've updated it..

One way to verify the requirement for grad between TA TAP is to use the cheat and play with only "I"..

We can easily count the tetris/level/grad..

[colour_thief]

I think it's the same..
I've updated it..
One way to verify the requirement for grad between TA TAP is to use the cheat and play with only "I"..
We can easily count the tetris/level/grad..

You missed this (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=548) thread. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[K]

Hey amnesia !

on your video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkanC6kJU58#GU5U2spHI_4), someone have posted a comment :



If this is all you can do, I dont know what you are thinking I am a grandmaster and this is easy tetris.


we should open a special thread about all those sentences...

ah ah ah http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[Amnesia]

NEW RECORD FOR ME : S9 in 9min14 (inp)




Shot at 2007-06-26

I'm a little bit disapointed.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif 2 days ago I finished it in 9min03 but only S7..

I can manage the speed and the accuracy at the same time..


Sorry my game is really rubbish like every time from me.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Amnesia]

Shot at 2007-07-09


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif Maybe one day I will decrease under 5min... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif
But it's already a pleasure to see on the screen : 5:00:--


(INP available)

[kotetsu213]

*is tempted to post a Heboris screenshot*

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif ??

[kotetsu213]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b230/kotetsu213/sectiontimes.jpg

that

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

WHAT!!!!!??????????

[kotetsu213]

wait


the speed.def values are shorter than in TAP


nevermind, ignore that

[Rosti LFC]

To ask a question which may have already been asked/answered elsewhere, how exactly do the ranks work in Master mode?

[K]

i certainly could give you the rules to get M rank but for Gm i remember that there is a topic created by lost (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=548).

but the best should be Amnesia or a moderator (ct) write them directly on the first post. same for other game mode and related topic.... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Rosti LFC]

The level is lower, but the time is much faster:


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/TGM2-1.png

[Air Gear]

I'll admit I haven't been playing much lately...there have been multi-week breaks in my playing, plus there hasn't been much playing in the REST of the time. However, I did play enough to get pissed at the fact that S1 comes up around 550 and S2 never seems to come up...let me say that I really hate the fact that S2 doesn't appear for something like 200 more levels, and then several levels come one right after another. That's just wrong. Oh well, it makes this achievement look better than it really is:


http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa61/qwAirGear/MasterS4.png[/img]

[Poochy]

My personal best: S4 rank, level 855 @ 11'46"90. Screenshot available on request.


Yes, I know I play too slow. I really need to learn to use the lock delay cancel more.

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
Hey ! welcome new TGM player !

Don't worry about your time ! you are in the best place for that..

It's not only a problem of lock delay..

The best thing you could do is giving us an inp so me and few other guys will be able to analyse your game and give you some accurate advices..

[cyberguile]

For how long have you been in London, amnesia ?

Your english has seemingly improved http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

[Amnesia]

Only 6 weeks and I'm leaving next sat..

So I've lived in here for a little bit more than 5 weeks..and I hope my english has improved!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif
In fact my girlfriend sometimes corrects me some sentences when I write on tc, I'm sure I havn't improved the writting at all..The listening is still a disaster as well..I feel a bit frustrating to be a about leaving just went I see a begining of improvement when I listen people speaking..

I have learned a lot of words and expressions ofcourse..And I also begin to speak much better and confidently..The shorts sentences comes naturally, but When often fail my attemps to build long and complexe sentence..

[lee n]

confidently

That is the most important part if you ask me.

[Poochy]

The best thing you could do is giving us an inp so me and few other guys will be able to analyse your game and give you some accurate advices..I've tried saving an INP, but it's not saving the pseudorandom number generator seed. How do I fix this?

[kotetsu213]

Delete (rename) your NVRAM file before recording a game.

[Poochy]

Thanks, I'll try that and post an INP sometime.

For now, another personal record:


[Edit: Picture removed to make room for new record screenshot. Screenshot had: S5, level 881 @ 11:43:95, Master Ranking Time 11:37:76]

[Amnesia]

Cool !! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
New record added !

[Sigma Draconis]

For a while, I couldn't reach 500. With more single games than I could count in both TAP and Heboris UE, with all of the practice that I did in the latter, I just couldn't do it. Sometime later, I just halted all attempts and left it alone.


Then I came back to it today and:


http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/7692/tgm20000qu4.png

It's really nothing special, yet it still feels like a big turning point for me. There's more to practice, more to learn, and more to advance to. I can't wait.


Now if I could only effectively fit my Tetris sessions in with my Natural Selection sessions...

[LOst]

For a while, I couldn't reach 500. With more single games than I could count in both TAP and Heboris UE, with all of the practice that I did in the latter, I just couldn't do it. Sometime later, I just halted all attempts and left it alone.

Then I came back to it today and:

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/7692/tgm20000qu4.png

It's really nothing special, yet it still feels like a big turning point for me. There's more to practice, more to learn, and more to advance to. I can't wait.

Now if I could only effectively fit my Tetris sessions in with my Natural Selection sessions...

I know exactly what you are talking about. Letting go for a while and coming back, making a surprise out of yourself. I think it is all about staying calm. I am often trying to simulate that feeling of calmness so that I can get farther without any vacations.

The main problem is, there is always a limit. And that limit seems to be my keyboard. I got so angry the other day I smashed it too hard. The computer froze, and I had to reboot, and even open the computer up and fix the graphics card. Not very smart.

[Poochy]

The best thing you could do is giving us an inp so me and few other guys will be able to analyse your game and give you some accurate advices..Okay, I've recorded an INP: [Edit: link taken down. See my post on the next page for a better one.]

I got to level 882 in the video, but only reached S4.

I also managed to get an S4/899/11:51:05, but didn't get an INP of that.

[Mr. Antisocial]

Still S8, but I managed to shave over a minute off my old record. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c51/MrAntisocial777/TAPMasterS8-8-07.jpg

Now I just need to figure out how the heck to shave off another 2:05? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[Poochy]

Argh. So close to 999...


http://webpages.charter.net/poochyexe/TAP/Master.png

I also recorded an INP: [link] (http://webpages.charter.net/poochyexe/TAP/Poochy_Master_S5_996.zip)


At least I should be meeting my goal of getting to 999 by the end of this month.

[Taratang]

Weaker grade (very few tetrises), but much quicker than my previous best:


http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/Taratang/S6_0956.jpg

I should probably play less death for a while http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

[Amnesia]

How many time you usually take for the level 500 in Master mode?

[colour_thief]

If I'm closer to 5:00 than 5:30 I'm playing ok. I'm playing very well if I'm under 5:00.

[Rosti LFC]

Same level. Faster time:

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/Masterbest-2.png

[etherstorm]

http://www.snapdrive.net/files/36921/8-20-07.jpg

[colour_thief]

New personal best for me:


S9 999 @ 8:49:73


Solid game except for the final section. Recorded and all, but I won't bother with proofs until I pass someone! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[K]

oh oh oh

this is good...

very good

Get the M rank and i will get a surprise for ya http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Amnesia]

Hey !!

I come back!

have got a very good summer exciting and quiet, with a london trip, strasbourg trip, and my usual camping..

Now I am ready for the following tetris session 2007-2008, with those objectif before the end of year :

death : M - 550

master : M

TGM : under 11:--



PS : http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif watch out c_t, I could get this one before you..

[Poochy]

Just by playing more aggressively (going for Tetrises, manual locking more) at the higher levels, I've managed to hit S6. The level's lower, though, since I made a few technical errors at the end. And I STILL haven't reached 999 yet...


http://webpages.charter.net/poochyexe/TAP/MasterS6.png

INP: [link] (http://webpages.charter.net/poochyexe/TAP/Poochy_Master_S6_985.zip)

[Amnesia]

[/url]

[url=http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=526&i=masters98min58dn4.jpg] (http://imageshack.us/default.htm)


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
YAAHHHHAAAAA!!!!!!!


My hard training in Master mode has not been useless..

Now, I must come back on the DEATH mode..


(INP AVAILABLE !!)

[colour_thief]

Well done! You are very close to M!!!


Good luck with your Death trainning.

[cdsboy]

New record : )

http://www.arrogantintellect.com/images/newhigh.jpg

[Poochy]

I'm not really sure how, but I somehow managed to play a LOT faster all of a sudden, which allowed me to get S7:


http://webpages.charter.net/poochyexe/TAP/MasterS7.png

INP: [link] (http://webpages.charter.net/poochyexe/TAP/Poochy_Master_S7_993.zip)

[PetitPrince]

http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/record/master001.png

It's about time I make it at home.

[Amnesia]

TAP Master mode rules :

1 : Finish the game at lv. 999
2 : Reach lv. 999 under 8:45:00
3 : Reach lv. 999 with the S9 rank
4 : Do the first 5 sections (000-500) under 1:05:00
5 : Do the last section (900-999) under 0:45:00
6 : Do at least 2 tetrises in the 5 first sections (000-500)
7 : Do at least 1 tetrises in the 4 following sections (500-900)
8 : Survive the invisible section at the staff roll during 1min

Is it good? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
Jago I tried to make a short list of the rules next to the ranking table as you asked me few weeks ago..But I am not sure..


Look at this : (performed thank to the cheat, with only "I"..

I am sure I have respected the 7 first conditions but no invisible challenge.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

[Edo]

I am sure I have respected the 7 first conditions but no invisible challenge.. Amnesia, the conditions for the m-roll are more subtle than those stated by LOst (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=548). I don't know the exact details, but I think that a section time must not be much slower than the previous one. For example, 900-999 cannot be more than 2 seconds slower than 800-900, and 800-900 cannot be more than 2 seconds slower than 700-800. Reset your section time records using Maintenance Code: 4-1-7-6-5, and then try again. If you don't get the instant invisible challenge, check your times, I can guarantee it's because you slowed down a lot from one section to the next.

[LOst]

I am sure I have respected the 7 first conditions but no invisible challenge.. Amnesia, the conditions for the m-roll are more subtle than those stated by LOst (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=548). I don't know the exact details, but I think that a section time must not be much slower than the previous one. For example, 900-999 cannot be more than 2 seconds slower than 800-900, and 800-900 cannot be more than 2 seconds slower than 700-800. Reset your section time records using Maintenance Code: 4-1-7-6-5, and then try again. If you don't get the instant invisible challenge, check your times, I can guarantee it's because you slowed down a lot from one section to the next.

Note that reseting the section time records affects all the players on your TAP system... Which is a wierd condition for m-roll achieved by 1 player?

Also being forced to outperform previous section times must have the same effect while cheating as when playing. I am sure Amnesia went for the fastest finish time while cheating. He still has to beat a hidden section time limit of 1 min and 5 seconds.


Section times are compared once entering a new section, and when entering level 999. The current section time is compared to a constant value. I haven't found any evidence that the game is checking previous section times, or the section time records as you claim. But as you said, "I don't know the exact details". If you feel like owning me, just give me an inp file showing a failure of "just" your described condition. Something I doubt you will be able to do.

I promise you that if there is another condition, I will most likely find it in a near future. But for the already stated conditions by me, they are correct.

[tepples]

I don't know the exact details, but I think that a section time must not be much slower than the previous one. For example, 900-999 cannot be more than 2 seconds slower than 800-900, and 800-900 cannot be more than 2 seconds slower than 700-800. Reset your section time records using Maintenance Code: 4-1-7-6-5, and then try again. If you don't get the instant invisible challenge, check your times, I can guarantee it's because you slowed down a lot from one section to the next.
Note that reseting the section time records affects all the players on your TAP system... Which is a wierd condition for m-roll achieved by 1 player?

I read it as if your own 700-800 time is 46 seconds, your own 800-900 time can't be longer than 48 seconds. Clearing the section time records just helps you diagnose this problem.

[LOst]

I don't know the exact details, but I think that a section time must not be much slower than the previous one. For example, 900-999 cannot be more than 2 seconds slower than 800-900, and 800-900 cannot be more than 2 seconds slower than 700-800. Reset your section time records using Maintenance Code: 4-1-7-6-5, and then try again. If you don't get the instant invisible challenge, check your times, I can guarantee it's because you slowed down a lot from one section to the next.
Note that reseting the section time records affects all the players on your TAP system... Which is a wierd condition for m-roll achieved by 1 player?
I read it as if your own 700-800 time is 46 seconds, your own 800-900 time can't be longer than 48 seconds. Clearing the section time records just helps you diagnose this problem.

ok

[Edo]

I read it as if your own 700-800 time is 46 seconds, your own 800-900 time can't be longer than 48 seconds. Clearing the section time records just helps you diagnose this problem.

Thanks for re-phrasing, that's exactly what I meant.


LOst, my apologies if I've offended you, I realise you must be proud of discovering the m-roll conditions, and I didn't intend to dispute your claims. I didn't think it was worth recording an "only I piece cheat" video, but I hope you find this useful:





I played through the game using only I pieces, and made a save state in the final section so I could go back and complete it slightly slower.

[colour_thief]

With a replay similar to Edo's S9, I'm sure we could learn the exact conditions inhibiting M/Gm here. As well as any further unknown conditions in surrounding code. Any volunteers?

[LOst]

I read it as if your own 700-800 time is 46 seconds, your own 800-900 time can't be longer than 48 seconds. Clearing the section time records just helps you diagnose this problem.
Thanks for re-phrasing, that's exactly what I meant.

LOst, my apologies if I've offended you, I realise you must be proud of discovering the m-roll conditions, and I didn't intend to dispute your claims. I didn't think it was worth recording an "only I piece cheat" video, but I hope you find this useful:



I played through the game using only I pieces, and made a save state in the final section so I could go back and complete it slightly slower.

Yes that is helpful http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

Being able to find one more condition is not the same as correcting someone elses found conditions. It sounded for a while like you stated that I was incorrect in some way. Thank you for your clarification!

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
Like Jago told me at the meeting in his flat..

" Conditions doesn't matters..When you are enough strong you get the m rank.."


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Amnesia]

Heuy c_t ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
My first "good" master mode almost completed with one hand!

I think I could finish the last section but in starting low.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[colour_thief]

That's crazy! Are you playing one-handed with arcade sticks? And 2 sticks for Doubles? Even if it's keyboard though, well done.

[Amnesia]

I have actually the bou's stick in my flat! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
And they are the same model!

My current best are :

TGM: S7

TAP MASTER: S4

TAP DEATH: ~330

TAP DOUBLE: 217 - 219


Baw.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif It is funny..I do that only when I am too tired to do other thing..Or to impress girls.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Amnesia]

http://www.sendspace.com/file/c82t3g


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Juste to show you I am not joking c_t..

Don't worry you stay 2nd today yet..


VOUS ALLEZ BIENTOT VOIR CE QUE JE PEUX FAIRE EN MASTER MODE LES GARS !!!!!!!!!

[mat]

09:04:18

not a significant improvement, but at least it shows i'm trying http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif.

[Amnesia]

OOuuuFFFfff... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
When I saw your name on this topic, I though : "No..He did it.."


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif Well done!


You know I though a lot about your skill in Master mode matt, and I am sure you will never be the 3rd any more.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif
The keyboard offers a lot of advantages : mainly the precision, but you will never perform the "drop/lock" as fast as me, jago and c_t..

How many time do you do usually at lv. 500 ?


No pb in TGM1 and TAP Death of course.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[mat]

i screwed up and deleted my inp file... so we'll never know how fast my 500 was, but i will tell you that i'm getting early sections consistently under 1 minute. 58 0-100 on that game if i remember correctly, and i don't feel that the up down is limiting my game in any significant way, i do it in one motion anyway.

[Rosti LFC]

I don't see how a joystick can be that much faster than simply flicking my finger off the up key onto the down in one movement. Certainly not enough to make a difference compared to other ways to play faster (finesse, no mistakes, x99 line clears etc).

[Rosti LFC]

AT LAST I HAVE BEATEN S4


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/Masterbest-3.png

Really annoying thing is that I could have done even better. The nerves sort of got to me when I hit S4, because I was on a really good run and the level was pretty low. Then mistakes slowed me down and brought me to the top half of the field, and I was really just trying to recover after that.

[DIGITAL]

I don't see how a joystick can be that much faster than simply flicking my finger off the up key onto the down in one movement. Certainly not enough to make a difference compared to other ways to play faster (finesse, no mistakes, x99 line clears etc).


The up down motion can be remedied quite easily as it's just an inconvenient hard drop. However, finesse with firm drop and ARS is a different matter. The real advantage joysticks have over keyboards is the ability to perform zangi placements with one swift motion. You now not only have free-fall finesse and wallkick finesse, but also zangi finesse. jin8 gracefully demonstrated all three of these in his GM video.


EDIT:

Here are some diagrams showing these.

http://fumen.zui.jp/?v095@TeF3gbB3gbI3g ... Gob4GIc2YB (http://fumen.zui.jp/?v095_40TeF3gbB3gbI3gbI3qbAAA7eAmXBNe4GYi4GobYiAcA ?AA7eAeSB5d4Gob4Gnb5GMc2WBBe4GmbB3aiMcwXB7eAOUB9?d 5Gnb4Gob4GIc2YB)


Slides 1-2 = Freefall

Slides 3-5 = Wallkick

Slides 6-8 = Zangi

[PetitPrince]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif !!!


http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/record/master002.png
S4

930

12:08:80


I don't understand how I got that high. I broke S2, then almost successively broke S3 and S4.

[Rosti LFC]

After spending months at S4, I spend less than 24 hours at S5:


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/Masterbest-4.png

[Amnesia]

Well done guys !! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
It is a pleasure to see that the Master mode has become fashion again!

[Poochy]

This is a slower Master Ranking Time, but I finally hit 999!


http://webpages.charter.net/poochyexe/TAP/Master999.png

Edit: I put the final portion of the replay on YouTube: [link] (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ruTVqEVbCQE)

[Amnesia]

09:04:18
not a significant improvement, but at least it shows i'm trying .



Is it with the S9 rank? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif
You did not change your signature..

[mat]

actually it was s8, but i didn't notice i hadn't changed my signature. i think i'm of the opinion that a 9 minute s8 is better than a 9 minute 30 second s9.

[Amnesia]

I agree, but I prefer keep the rank in priority than the time...It is the reason that we have a Master mode and a Death mode in tap.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif orf..I prefer see a gap of 8 sec between you and me than 6sec.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif That makes me a bit less anxious..Even if I am preparing a 8:50 S9.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[Rosti LFC]

And now S7.


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/Masterbest-5.png

Pity the time is so woeful. It was actually just a run that I messed up near the start. I wasn't expecting to beat my record with it.


Still, bring on S8 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[colour_thief]

Nice silver RO there Rosti, those don't come often.

[Rosti LFC]

Nice silver RO there Rosti, those don't come often.

RE you mean...


I actually have the inp for the run if anyone wants it. I was going to upload it onto Youtube, but it was slightly longer than 10 minutes (10:30 or something) so I couldn't.

[DIGITAL]

I actually have the inp for the run if anyone wants it. I was going to upload it onto Youtube, but it was slightly longer than 10 minutes (10:30 or something) so I couldn't.

All the more reason to break ten minutes. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Rosti LFC]

All the more reason to break ten minutes. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

Like I said, the speed was really quite poor, especially 1~500. I was misdropping all over the place.

[kotetsu213]

The Youtube limit is 10:58, not 10:00

[Rosti LFC]

The Youtube limit is 10:58, not 10:00

I'll try it later, but everything I've read on the site itself says the limit is ten minutes, unless you have an account with a lengthened restriction.

[kotetsu213]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bxF5rs9t5Ko


If I can do this, then anyone can upload a 10:30 video.

[Rosti LFC]

Well kotetsu, you were right...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXP1nHiEtqk


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

[PetitPrince]

http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/rosti_s7_detail_589.gif
(level 589)

I love how you managed to transform that ugly playfield into an acceptable one. I wouldn't have though of that L placement.

[Rosti LFC]

Yeah, that was a time where I could use an SRS technique to sort things out a bit.

Ideally though, I'd rather not have had the messed up field to start with http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[Poochy]

Well, my S7 999 video was just a bit over 10:59, but if anybody's interested in watching it, I split it into two parts and put it on YouTube:


Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zluw49pXKo

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkXty5s2Alg


I'd also love it if anybody could tell me how I could improve, based on my videos.

[cyberguile]

Haven't played for aaaaages.

Yesterday, tried a couple of games at my friend's home just after watching France Beating The All-Blacks (!!!) and beat my record on the first one http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif moreover with a control pad !

S7, 11min26, 999.

Worst is that I was comfortable in the last section and did three tetris.

But before 700 I played so poorly (kinda "didn't play for long so keep cool, don't build too high") that I only got S7. But I KNEW S8 was very close http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

PS: That semi invisible challenge is nuts http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
PPS: S8 next time I play, in four months http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[PetitPrince]

Good !


A shame you didn't reached 700, your stack was really low at 652.


Some (a lot of) comments:


Level 303

http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru303a.pnghttp://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru303b.png
When you're building, you should really really think "What piece can I place in that hole ?" and place it immediately when it is distributed. In that case, there's only the J and I piece that can fill that hole. J is IMO the best piece to place and you didn't it.


Level 332

http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru332a.pnghttp://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru332b.png
I think it's possible (with DAS) to place that Z to the right, which is a much better position than the other one.


Level 375

http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru375a.pnghttp://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru375b.png
There's something I learned from TDS wifi, and that is that non-overstacking construction (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/../wiki/index.php?title=Non-overstacking_construction) (caffein would say "look below (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/../old.html)") often makes the difference between life and death. I would have placed the to the right, because this line

http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru375c.gif
is the first obstacle that prevents you from cleaning your stack.


Notice that you did just fine, but that might be of some use in 20G.


Level 402

http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru402a.gifhttp://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru402b.gif

Hum.


There's a non obvious at all but still very useful wallkick with the L piece. That you could have used.


General case (+ the same in slow motion + the same with its mechanisms)

http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/lkick3.gifhttp://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/lkick4.gifhttp://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/lkick5.gif

It works with J too, as you could do at 597

http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru597a.pnghttp://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru597b.gif

Level 590

http://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru590a.pnghttp://bsixcentdouze.free.fr/tc/kitaru590b.png
You should have IRS-ed that L.

[K]

glad to see that there is at least one person that use The_TOOL.

[Amnesia]

BOU DID IT !!!

RANK S2 !!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif My padawan!!

[Kitaru]

Thank you very much, PetitPrince. I'll have to take all of that into account. I know of that L/J wall kick, but it never usually occurs to me to use it when I'm playing. That is something I definitely need to add to my move set.

[Amnesia]

The panel of move increase alone with the practicing kitaru, but you can improve faster by the forced training, try to do some Master mode very slow, not to attempt a new record like we always use to do, but just for the analysis of the best placements..And you have a lot of good explanation with the tool, in the past I have watched a lot of time every japan videos which were available.

[kotetsu213]

Another S8, one second slower than the one I have already


And then S7 at 9xx then a bunch of misdrops...


this is after not playing Master seriously for... over 2 months, I think I'm doing okay...

[Rosti LFC]

I got S7 at 998.


It's a shame that all my runs where I get over 800 generally have poor early sections. I was reasonable for 1 and S1, but took far too long getting to S4.

[Amnesia]

INP is available if somebody wants..

And you colour_thief ?? Do you want to learn how to do a 0-100 in 54 sec ? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[K]

hmm very good !


oh oh oh, c'mon get this damn M ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[Amnesia]

Best lv. 500 at 4:52..

But the probability for me to make such a good beginning AND reach 999 WITH a correct number of Tetris is ...1%.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[K]

Best lv. 500 at 4:52..
But the probability for me to make such a good beginning AND reach 999 WITH a correct number of Tetris is ...1%

but you know that this is not just a question of "ultra perfect agressive time attack technic". Just regularity!


Anyway once you get this M rank, i will really have to worry about the M roll cause you have a far better experience than me http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

damn http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Amnesia]

No sure jago.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
I already hold over 40 sec 3 or 4 times after lot of hours of training..

I will finish it one time before chrismas..

Actually you manage the semi invible better than me..

I can sometime finish it with a constant and agressive manual locking..


Another interesting detail, I fell the same difficulty in invisible with a manual locking and without it..

The lack of accuracy due to the speed is balanced with the fact that precedent tetriminos stay more in my mind thank to the speed..

The best strategy is to build a first Tetris, then we must try to let the last column free in hoping to put a "I" when we can..I am working about it.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Amnesia]

CORRECTION :


I will be honest for the invisible challenge..Yesterday I decided to learn the music by heart, just to be able to know exactely the time. (there is no time for the invisible section) For each main part of the music, I know now the exact time corresponding, so my current record is 38 sec, done around 4-5 times..

Yesterday evening, on my best attempt : I did 1 tetris, then 1 double, few singles, I stayed very low during a good moment..Then I disrupted sadly my stack because of too much concentration in the begining..Result --> 38sec again.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

I can do that after this training :

From end of August to now --> 25min/week

From now to my first success --> 25min/day


No need to do more, it is really boring and useless over 30 min I think..

[K]

at least, you train on that part ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[colour_thief]

My best is 00:42:78... 11 singles and 2 doubles.

[K]

hu oh http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
time to use this dusty trainer http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif

[Amnesia]

My best is 00:42:78... 11 singles and 2 doubles.



http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif Whao you bastard..

You trained hard the whole night ? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[colour_thief]

No. About a week ago, after not using jago's invisibility trainer for over a year, I tried it for maybe 30 minutes. I was able to easily improve my record by 10 seconds, even without practice.

[DIGITAL]

Is there a difference between Heboris's fully invisible setting and that in TAP? I didn't find it hard to survive for at least 30-35 seconds consistently, with the occasional 40+, in Heboris's practice mode with Heboris rotation, one preview, no hold, and TAP's level 900 speed settings.

[Ken_P]

Had a great session out of nowhere today! New top grade for me: S8 in 9:49:68. I would have gotten even further, but I got distracted by my new high score, and only got to 926. I also had an S7 going, but died just before 900. With a little luck, I'll hit S9 soon!

[Amnesia]

WHOO !! A new S8 ! Congratz a lot! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
I remember my first S8 made me crazy..At this point each new rank is an explosion of joyce..I update it ! because c_t did that like a ...


A new performance yesterday evening, I take the lead of the invisible challenge I think, still motivated to be the first western invisible player.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif
In the case where I am wrong, I use Master 900 with instant invisible, that allow me to have the time on the screen..


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DIGITAL and colour_thief ---> 50 sec !!


I agree I have been very very lucky regarding the rest of my score..But you can ask a comfirmation to jago..I sent him a sms to tell him about my 50sec, that made him lose a DEATH at 857..He was a bit angry..

I AM SO SORRY JAGO... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif

[cyberguile]

New best: S7, 976, 10min31

[Rosti LFC]

I've hit S6 three times today. First time I've had consistency at levels anything like that high.

I'll hit grade 1 long before I hit level 500, but I'll usually screw up at some point between 500 and 700, which is what I think is costing me so much. It's hard to concentrate purely on Tetrises after level 750 when you're already halfway up the field because of mistakes.

[Amnesia]

I have removed the habit to concentrate on each tetriminos after 500 to avoid the mistakes..It is the best way to do a lot of mistake.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
Then I play like that :


very regular and safety, 90% of my max speed before 500, and after : it is for the pleasure and..for the m rank! I play as fast as I can with my hands the most possible relaxed..Trying to play for the pleasure of the speed and not to beat a record..That seems to works very well..


New best: S7, 976, 10min31


You are much faster than me when I finished the first time the master mode, I remember it was around 11:20 at S7 as well..

[Amnesia]

WOW HO HO ??!


WHAT IS IT ? ??!


A NEW RANK FOR ME?? ??!


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[K]

mdr !!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[kotetsu213]

I didn't know TGM2 had a rank ?. I'll need to add this in my game immediately...

[Amnesia]

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Are you stupid kotetsu ??

No.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif I t is a surprise for colour_thief !!

[Taratang]

Don't play games, let us know when you actually get m in master mode http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[colour_thief]

I'm going to guess it's just a slightly faster S9 than mine.