[TAP] Doubles

[Pineapple]

KAN-------------------- 300 @ 03:35:28 @ 300 ----------------------K
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 03:36:28 @ 300 ---------------DeHackEd
K---------------------- 300 @ 03:44:03 @ 300 ----------------Amnesia
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 03:46:85 @ 300 ----------------Amnesia
Amnesia---------------- 300 @ 04:18:98 @ 300 --------------------Bou
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:23:66 @ 300 ------------------merpy
gila ------------------ 300 @ 04:32:10 @ 300 ------------------ hlam
Kitaru----------------- 300 @ 04:33:86 @ 300 ---------------KevinDDR
KevinDDR--------------- 300 @ 04:35:53 @ 300 -----------------Samael
Amnesia---------------- 300 @ 04:38:01 @ 300 ---------------DeHackEd
Kitaru----------------- 300 @ 04:41:26 @ 300 ----Ineluctable_Entropy
mfm005----------------- 300 @ 04:41:-- @ 300 ----------------Amnesia
Rosti LFC-------------- 300 @ 04:43:33 @ 300 ---------------KevinDDR
Rosti LFC-------------- 300 @ 04:45:75 @ 300 --------------------Edo
Amnesia---------------- 300 @ 04:49:48 @ 300 -------------cyberguile
DDRKirby(ISQ)---------- 300 @ 04:52:33 @ 300 -----------------Kitaru
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:54:15 @ 300 -------------------cgwg
Grump ----------------- 300 @ 04:57:00 @ 300 ---------------DeHackEd
DIGITAL---------------- 300 @ 05:00:36 @ 300 --------------Rosti LFC
TWF-------------------- 300 @ 05:03:56 @ 300 -----------------Samael
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 05:05:36 @ 300 ---------------KevinDDR
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 05:07:40 @ 300 --------------------TWF
DIGITAL---------------- 300 @ 05:16:86 @ 300 -----------------Analog
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 05:19:90 @ 300 ----------------Ezzelin
Zircean---------------- 300 @ 05:24:50 @ 300 -----------------Kitaru
muf-------------------- 300 @ 05:25:31 @ 300 --------------Rosti LFC
myndzi----------------- 300 @ 05:27:80 @ 300 -----------colour_thief
Rosti LFC-------------- 300 @ 05:28:63 @ 300 ----------------LordPie
DDRKirby(ISQ)---------- 300 @ 05:29:51 @ 300 ---------------imiganai
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 05:33:96 @ 300 --------------------mat
tada------------------- 300 @ 05:56:86 @ 300 ---------------KevinDDR
PetitPrince ----------- 300 @ 05:57:16 @ 300 --------------- Suohfei
K---------------------- 300 @ 05:59:68 @ 300 --------------------muf
DeHackEd--------------- 300 @ 06:15:28 @ 300 -----------------Kitaru
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 06:17:88 @ 300 -----------------Needle
gila ------------------ 300 @ 06:25:68 @ 300 ------------------ mojo
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 06:4-:-- @ 300 ---------------------Sy
Kitaru----------------- 300 @ 06:--:-- @ 300 ----------------Jerycho
================================================== ==================
Kitaru----------------- 300 @ 06:02:53 @ 299 ------------Ray Ayanami
Samael----------------- 294 @ 05:36:78 @ 300 ---------------KevinDDR
Dark2Master------------ 259 @ 06:20:83 @ 300 ----------------Amnesia
CrazedRevenge---------- 276 @ 05:30:60 @ 280 -----------------Kitaru
Rosti LFC-------------- 268 @ 07:51:05 @ 270 ---------------Lardarse
aias------------------- 251 @ 04:54:-- @ 259 -------------kotetsu213
muf-------------------- 229 @ 06:29:25 @ 218 -----------------Wracky
Budster---------------- 217 @ 07:58:63 @ 180 ------------Umbravocare


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Hi

I was wondering if any videos of this mode being completed exist. The idea of sounds like a very interesting game, but without any visual evidence to back it up, it's hard to tell...

Hope you can help

LA

[colour_thief]

None that I am aware of.


It's quite fun. After I get my TGM2 Gms I think I'll try to complete Doubles alone. Currently I practice for this by playing VS against my friends using only one hand as a handicap. I still usually win. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

[Amnesia]

Whoa!

With one hand??


I havn't understood exactly what you said lardarse (end of sentence)


I'm wondering how you will end the double mode alone colour_thief, maybe you are strong but don't exaggerate!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

I begin to have a good experience on double mode even I've never successed..Our best lv are 300 for me and 278 for a friend..

I must precise there is a big proportion of psycology, it's not necessary to try with a friend who is very strong like you..My best friend is S5 (good...I think..) and with me it's a catastrofic duet..

But my best score has been realized with a medium friend (grad 3) , because with this configuration (Gm1 and medium) , you can deal the role : one manageur and one subordinated, an organisation is possible...


Maybe it's not the best opinion but...

[tepples]

I begin to have a good experience on double mode even I've never successed..Our best lv are 300 for me and 278 for a friend..

That's the mode where the first side to get to 300 gets 20G until the other side gets to 300 right?

[colour_thief]

That is correct.



And I'm not some one-handed playing god... It's just that my friend is not that good. I forget what by best single player Doubles Mode score is, but I know it was above 200-200. But further impovements would be... very difficult. As you know the speed increases dramatically at that point, especially if you're playing at the minimum pace.


<Edit>

I just checked and my best is 211-202.

[Pineapple]

How the hell do you play one handed? use 4 keys (like WASD) with Q and E for rotate? And then doing that twice???


Any chance you could provide a movie of you doing this please? I'd like to see it...


And as for explaining what I said... There are very few puzzle games that work well with 2 players. There are even less where the 2 players have to work together.


colour_thief: Can you get one side to 300 without the other side dying? If so, how long does it take?

[colour_thief]

I think I could get one side to 300, but the other wouldn't even be close. And my above mentioned record took... 7 minutes I think?


And I'm playing this using joysticks on an actual TGM2 machine. I've got big hands, and still usually only use one rotation button.



A great 2 player cooperative puzzle game is Uo Poko by Cave. I wouldn't recommend single player, but team play is interesting.

[Amnesia]

Colour_thief,

You should try to beat your friends with...your feet! It's really easy with your Joystick (I've seen its on a photo)

It's not a joke! It's really interesting..

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
Ha ha....

Humm..I'm not a DEATH Master but... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

Is there anybody here who has succeeded to accomplish the double mode with a friend????? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

[colour_thief]

Just me and Needle, though I almost did it with cgwg also.

[Amnesia]

AHHH http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif
SHEET!!!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif
I thought I'll be the first!!!

We have worked hard for that!!

You've wasted my joyce of week-end!!


fuck.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[caffeine]

it's not like ct was the first to do it anyway. you would've been the 2413rd to do it.

[colour_thief]

Hey guys, new personal best:


228/228 - CT/CT @ 6:0X:XX


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif
It was cool because this happened while I was showing my mom my Astro City cabinet for the first time. I would have taken a picture, but I didn't in the name of not appearing like a complete geek.

[Amnesia]

It's impressing !! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
But try with your feet!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[colour_thief]

Oups! I just noticed you finished Doubles. You did it 20 seconds faster than me and Needle, congratulations. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Amnesia]

Yeah!

But it's realLy less impressing than your score 228-228...

HOW do you do with your left hand?? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif
To move and rotate??


I'm happy for my double because I formed my friend in few months and he is only S1 on TAP and S3 on tgm1..

I think if one day we meet, you and me, we could easily do it in 4min30..


Do you know the "Campus de l’Université du Québec en Outaouais"?

I will do my master here in 2008 or 2009..

[colour_thief]

I rotate with my thumb on my left hand. I can only reach the first counter-clockwise A button. If I really want to rotate clockwise, and I do this only when I absolutely must, I have to let go of the joystick to hit the B button.


I have not heard of that place, but Outaouais is very far from Toronto. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif Also, I have no idea where I'll be living in 2008-2009.

[K]

maybe for most of people that are playing on "MAME" the use of a psx adaptator can be useful.

example layout

left cross for p1 direction

right button for p2 direction

L1-L2 trigger for p1 rotation

R1-R2 trigger for p2 rotation


maybe direction for p2 "may be difficult" to handle at start, but playing both player "may be difficult" by nature...


or maybe like this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzhCa5l5AFA

[colour_thief]

I love that video. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif That's actually what is inspiring me to try solo Doubles. His buttons are closer to his joysticks though, so he can reach better. I don't mind that extra inconvenience though, because it means I could theoretically walk up to a machine in a random arcade and play it just fine.

[Amnesia]

maybe for most of people that are playing on "MAME" the use of a psx adaptator can be useful.
example layout
left cross for p1 direction
right button for p2 direction
L1-L2 trigger for p1 rotation
R1-R2 trigger for p2 rotation



Hmm..Not stupid! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

I have not heard of that place, but Outaouais is very far from Toronto



http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif No chance to meet you..Too bad! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Rosti LFC]

Anyone know of a url to a (preferably English) guide of how the Vs. mode on TGM works?

I've tried it with a friend, but it seemed a bit random and we couldn't figure out much of what was happening.

[colour_thief]

Nobody's really into it... I don't even know of a Japanese guide. But here goes:


The goal is to either get to the level cap first (very rare), be closer to the level cap when the time expires (somewhat rare), or kill your opponent (the usual way). For every piece you place you charge item bar, so faster players will get special items more often. You'll note that whatever line you clear, your opponent will receive it minus the piece you used to clear it. So:


-The special items are random.

-The garbage is 100% controlled.


Basically: play fast, and go for advantageous line clears if that's an option.

[Ezzelin]

How do you mean the garbage is defined?

[PetitPrince]

How do you mean the garbage is defined?
http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif
You'll note that whatever line you clear, your opponent will receive it minus the piece you used to clear it.

[tepples]

The garbage in DuelTris (Apple IIGS) proceeds like this, and I think Bloxeed and TGM work the same way:

|          | |          |
|    S     | |          |
|    SS   I| |          |
|     S   I| | Z   I    |
|TTT     LI| |ZZS  ILOOJ|
|JTZZ  OOLI| |ZTSS ILOOJ|
|JJJZZ OOLL| |TTTS ILLJJ|
`----------' `----------'

|          | |          |
|          | |          |
|         I| |          |
|         I| | Z   I    |
|TTT S   LI| |ZZS  ILOOJ|
|JTZZSSOOLI| |ZTSS ILOOJ|
|JJJZZSOOLL| |TTTS ILLJJ|
`----------' `----------'

|          | |          |
|          | | Z   I    |
|          | |ZZS  ILOOJ|
|          | |ZTSS ILOOJ|
|         I| |TTTS ILLJJ|
|         I| |JTZZ  OOLI|
|TTT S   LI| |JJJZZ OOLL|
`----------' `----------'


Notice how the lines added to player 2's field are identical to those that player 1 cleared.


It encourages players to break a streak of back-to-back tetrises in the same rectum (http://www.arkmay.com/tetris/moves.html), as they'd just send the same blocks back and forth. But something like this wouldn't work for Nintendo-style 2-player, where the number of lines cleared is greater than (double, triple) or less than (B2B tetris, t-spin, B2B t-spin) the number of garbage lines sent.

[Bou]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif For my first post I etablish a new record http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif Impressive no http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_question.gif

(If you think that I am a little boastful this is because Amnesia is my Master)

[colour_thief]

The man finally appears! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Welcome to the forum Bou, and congratulations also for recently improving your Death record.

[Bou]

thx colour_thief !!


and for my Death mode I immediately will try to make a new record !

[Amnesia]

NO!!

For this evening, the priority is mine!!

You have already beaten your record 2 days ago!

I've waited for 1 month!!!


Respect your Master.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

(For people who don't understand, I only count on his PC..I've not my own PC)

[Rosti LFC]

The garbage in DuelTris (Apple IIGS) proceeds like this, and I think Bloxeed and TGM work the same way:


And Quadra IIRC.

[DIGITAL]

Played this with my little brother. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

Co-op is much harder than it looks. We couldn't divide our field in half since my brother can't stack flat enough to avoid gaps. So...we just decided to play in sync with each other's thoughts... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[colour_thief]

Ooooh, Bou and Amnesia have a new target to beat. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[mfm005]

......

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif
I definitely hate you DIGITAL...

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
But thank you to supply my motivation..

(wait I finish my fuck'in studies and get a PC, and you 'll see..)


I would be interesting to see what jago, amnesia and me can do someday...


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
You know it's impossible for you to play with me or Jago..Our games are definitely uncompatible..I've already tried to do it with a skilled player in your style, who hates speed and stress, and it's almost impossible..

I think DIGITAL has formed his little brother as I formed Bou, in order to have a "sub-clone" with the same reflexes and techniques..


But mfm I would like to see me too, when you want* we can organize a meeting in Paris with Jago.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

*Not before september..

[mfm005]

.........

[Bou]

[Pineapple]

My money's on Bou/Amnesia to be the first to go sub-5...

[Bou]

thx Lardarse !! We will try to be the first to sub-5 when I receive my cable in order to connect my Xbox stick arcade on my computer...because actually I play with a gamepad like playstation and I can't do my best !!

[DIGITAL]

thx Lardarse !! We will try to be the first to sub-5 when I receive my cable in order to connect my Xbox stick arcade on my computer...because actually I play with a gamepad like playstation and I can't do my best !!


On the reverse end, my little brother is terrible with keyboard tetris. He doesn't even use firm drop haha. I need to get him a gamepad if I want to get sub 5 minutes. Right now, I'm the one doing the most work building.

[colour_thief]

Right now, I'm the one doing the most work building.


I know just what you mean! When I play with my housemate, he's player 2 and we try to keep the tetris hole on the right as per usual. He gets all the line clear bonuses and I stack faster than him to even it out. Of course, he's still too weak for us to make it... I think our closest was something like 290-280 (I count that closer than 300-280).


What I like about Amnesia/Bou is their video shares the work pretty evenly, even though Amnesia is the stronger player. It's nice to see. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Amnesia]

What I like about Amnesia/Bou is their video shares the work pretty evenly, even though Amnesia is the stronger player. It's nice to see.



To complete your post and DIGITAL's, we divide the work it 2:


Bou : bulding and clear almost all lines..(to get bonus lines)

Me : Bulding as fast as I can and check the good bulding of the total stack(check the balance of levels, manage the game and correct the bou's mistakes ==> that decrease my speed because of the reflexion..)


Bou is too fast, sometimes I do few triple or tetris to balance the 2 levels..

[colour_thief]

My money's on Bou/Amnesia to be the first to go sub-5...


Well, cgwg and I just cleared it in 4:54:15 today. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif Our first clear together, and we've tried for it quite a bit. Expect a video, "soonish". http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif I'm afraid it slaughtered our previous high score of over 6 minutes, Needle. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif

Also I couldn't help but notice that there's a green line under the record... Could it be that surviving the credits earns you an orange line? Something to think about. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif Never give up!

[Amnesia]

Well, cgwg and I just cleared it in 4:54:15 today


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif We can do it..I ...No..nothing..

[Crystory]

i really like the strong team aspect of this mode. there are like 3 teams on this board now?

[colour_thief]

http://www.tetrisattack.net/colour_thief/Doubles%204.54.18%20%5bCT%20-%20CGWG%5d.mp4


Here you go guys. This is my first encoding so please give any feedback or tips you have. The scrolling credits are deinterlacing hell. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif

[DIGITAL]

I loved the teamwork between you and cgwg. The shared zangis/wallkicks are fun to watch. I do that all the time when playing with my brother but he gets really surprised when I do them at high speeds.


You guys nearly died a couple of times but miraculously got down since you were playing in sync. I envy you since my brother starts panicking at the top. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

Nice job keeping your levels so close. I often end up with a difference of 20-30 levels playing with my brother and have to actually slow down my stacking. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

The 20G portion was hilarious though. I wish there was a standalone mode for 20G Doubles.

[colour_thief]

The video has been updated. Mono sound is now mono instead of coming out of the left speaker only. Play area was cropped and resized properly, making things more clear and giving a proper aspect ratio. Also the deinterlacing is much improved, somehow, even though I didn't change anything that should affect that.


http://www.tetrisattack.net/colour_thief/Doubles%204.54.18%20%5bCT%20-%20CGWG%5d.mp4


Any comments/criticism on the video editing is still appreciated.

[K]

yosh,

the edition is far better than the first version.

but the file size is still huge for 5 min

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[colour_thief]

I'm annexing this thread into the TAP records conglomerate. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Unfortunately I only have a few entries. Please have a look at the ranking (http://www.tetrisconcept.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=242&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0) and let me know if you're missing! All unique teams will be accepted.

[Pineapple]

Fine, but don't ask me to maintain it http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[colour_thief]

I dug up a once-upon-a-time world record printed in Arcadia magazine. Who knows if it's still the best... Sometimes they don't print improvements. The best is 3'22"76! We've got some work to do.


http://www.aiva.emuita.it/gamest.php?pag=T

[kotetsu213]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b230/kotetsu213/tap_doubles_72_92_30010.jpg

lol >_>

[Amnesia]

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:23:11 @ 300 ----------------Amnesia
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:54:15 @ 300 -------------------cgwg
Bou-------------------- 300 @ 05:09:33 @ 300 ----------------Amnesia
DIGITAL---------------- 300 @ 05:16:86 @ 300 -----------------Analog
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 06:17:88 @ 300 -----------------Needle


You can add this one : mfm & Amnesia @ 4:41:--

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[kotetsu213]

Online attempt with Aias:


251 (Aias) / 259 (kotetsu213) @ 4:54


then we got lagged out.

[Rosti LFC]

So far on Kaillera mine and Digital's best record is 5:30 (for both at 300)


We had one looking to be about 5 mins, but we screwed up and lost.


The lag probably doesn't help with the speed. I also reckon we'd be a lot faster if we had the ability to talk to each other.

Still, it was only like our 6th attempt ever.

[Rosti LFC]

Myself and Digital:


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/Doublesmode.jpg

[Amnesia]

WHOAHO !! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
Not bad hehe..

It's not finished for me and Bou I think.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Rosti LFC]

It's not finished for me and Bou I think.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif


Bring it on.


We'll just go faster http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif Just to increase the second part of the ranking list..

This new player is one of my padawans..

His name is Dark2Master

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[gila]

completed doubles with my friend mojo today... time sucks though! there were games with better time, but we died at the very end, so close.


http://awp.nin.ru/uploads/monthly_09_2007/post-3-1190148115.pnghttp://awp.nin.ru/uploads/monthly_09_2007/post-3-1190148124.png

[colour_thief]

Well done! As I'm sure you noticed, it's quite a feat to beat it with anybody in any time.

[Amnesia]

[/url]


HEY IT'S ME !! With 2 xbox gamester stick..


(http://imageshack.us/default.htm)

[url=http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=505&i=doubleamnvx7.jpg]


I promise colour_thief I have did not cheat for this one..But Since I am sure you can finish it!

[colour_thief]

That's very impressive! You beat my record... But I have not tried since 1 year. I will try again one of these days. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Amnesia]

And you will easily beat me..I think I am unable to reach 270-270 actually..

[NoTghost]

It was really impressive to see Amnesia play with the 2 joysticks!!

[gila]

just a quick question - is there some (minor maybe) line clear delay in doubles? i.e. is it faster to do tetrises or just do alot of singles, etc?

[Rosti LFC]

just a quick question - is there some (minor maybe) line clear delay in doubles? i.e. is it faster to do tetrises or just do alot of singles, etc?

I don't think there is. Certainly not enough to make a real difference to your time.

[gila]

any particular tips to improve time in doubles then?

[Rosti LFC]

You both need to stack as fast as you can, but also try and maintain similar levels. This can be done by having the faster player do most of the stacking, and leave the tetris-clearing to the slower player.


I'd still say Tetrises are faster than singles, simply because if a line is cleared while you're placing a piece it can throw you off, as the lock delay will be reset as the stack falls away from the piece.


Basically though, fast, mistake free stacking is key. Keep to your own side of the screen unless it's necessary. Not only is it easier when you keep out of each other's way, but DAS-ing across is difficult to do with finesse and precision unless you're moving against the far wall.

[Amnesia]

And the most important, I discussed with colour_thief during our session, you must keep a permanent observation and analyse of the game of your partner..Both players must do it..


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
I found it today, I was sure this video was not available on youtube..

It is not so bad, but I am sure next time c_t and I will get a sub-4.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif


http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=iQcqa9F_Bso

[Rosti LFC]

And the most important, I discussed with colour_thief during our session, you must keep a permanent observation and analyse of the game of your partner..Both players must do it..



Not so easy for myself and Digital to do on our laggy Kaillera server with no way of communicating. We basically have to rely on telepathy for what the other played wants to do.

[colour_thief]

Actually, words are almost never spoken in real life either. You learn to read each other's minds, completing each other's thoughts.


Nobody has mentioned it yet, but the biggest, most important thing to do is learning to stick to your side. If you really must place pieces on the other side of the screen, pay attention and time it carefully so that you are out of your partner's way. Preferably, you should zoom in there while he's locking a piece. The key to a fast time, however, is stacking well enough to never leave your side.

[gila]

i had a lot of doubles mode matches lately but with different player - hlam - who is also russian, my neighbor and a long time friend of mine. at first we couldn't top my clear time with mojo (listed on the leaderboard, 6:25) but we improved alot it seems, as we did cleared it almost a minute faster (also pushing GIL&MOJ scores out of the ingame hiscore list):


http://gila.deathmask.net/tetris/tap_doubles_533.png
(forgot to take in-game screenshot)


now the goal is do it less than in 5 minutes!

[Rosti LFC]

Rosti LFC - LordPie


http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/Rosti-LPDoubles.png

Time is pretty poor, but we were mostly aiming for the finish. We can work on bringing the time down later.

[gila]

finally, a whole minute improvement. gila & hlam, 300/300, 4:32:10


http://gila.deathmask.net/tetris/tap_doubles_432.png

[jujube]

and into 2nd place http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif

[colour_thief]

Nice work! Keep at it, maybe Amnesia and I will have something to shoot for when he comes to Canada later this year.

[Rosti LFC]

Digital, we've got to get back into this. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Amnesia]

Nice work! Keep at it, maybe Amnesia and I will have something to shoot for when he comes to Canada later this year.


Somethink like 3:50 ?? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

I am sure we can do it ..

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif And the best...Bou did a mistake during the renaming of the inp file..WE LOST IT !!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif

[colour_thief]

I look forward to playing with you again. We're going to kick ass. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[Amnesia]

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:23:11 @ 300 ----------------Amnesia
Amnesia---------------- 300 @ 04:30:13 @ 300 --------------------Bou
gila ------------------ 300 @ 04:32:10 @ 300 ------------------ hlam
mfm005----------------- 300 @ 04:41:-- @ 300 ----------------Amnesia
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:54:15 @ 300 -------------------cgwg
DIGITAL---------------- 300 @ 05:00:36 @ 300 --------------Rosti LFC
Bou-------------------- 300 @ 05:09:33 @ 300 ----------------Amnesia


hey Ladarse, you forgot to remove the 5:09:33 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif 3 "Amnesia on the 4 top team..I think I can consider myself as the best western Double player now .. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
Tetris is a paradoxal univers..I am sure to not be very sociable in my life..But Double mode seems to proove the contrary.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Pineapple]

hey Ladarse, you forgot to remove the 5:09:33 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

Not my job...

[Amnesia]

I don't understand...The leaderboard list is on your post !


So I always thought it was you who changed it..With c_t or other moderator..

[jujube]

hey Ladarse, you forgot to remove the 5:09:33 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
Not my job...

is it because they get 2 records if they switch player control?

DIGITAL---------------- 300 @ 05:00:36 @ 300 --------------Rosti LFC
Rosti LFC-------------- 300 @ 05:30:-- @ 300 ----------------DIGITAL

[colour_thief]

I don't understand...The leaderboard list is on your post !


This thread is a weird exception. This thread gradually became a records thread and I added the leaderboard to the first post so I am in charge of updating it.


And I fixed the mistake, thanks for noticing Amnesia.

[jujube]

DIGITAL/Rosti and Rosti/DIGITAL are still on there ct. and btw i'm looking forward to seeing you and Amnesia break the 4:00 barrier (did i just say that? guess i did).

[Amnesia]

i'm looking forward to seeing you and Amnesia break the 4:00 barrier


Don't worry, if I can do 4:30 with Bou, I think 4:00 is evident for me and c_t. We were already around 4:00 last summer..


What is the world record ? 3:25 ? Humm... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[colour_thief]

What is the world record ? 3:25 ? Humm... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif


3:22:76


http://www.aiva.emuita.it/gamest.php?pag=T (http://web.archive.org/web/20070518222258/http_3A/www.aiva.emuita.it/gamest.php?pag=T)

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif You know we can do it.... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[Bou]

INP :

http://www.sendspace.com/file/rszqfa


Bou : So easy for us...Next stage http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_arrow.gif sub 4min... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif


Amnesia : And I would add this attempt was rubbish...

[colour_thief]

Oho! Nicely done. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Argh... So many months before I see Amnesia again... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Bou]

don't worry C_T...you will never can beat our record !! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

[colour_thief]

What do you think Amnesia? Are you faster now? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Amnesia]

I don't know..Have you seen the inp ?


I don't know if your stick are better than jago's, but I must admit I have never succeded to take confidence on his stick..Even after 3 days..

I was not at my maximum on july with you..

And you know I improved since for the sub-20G..

Next time YOU will be the handicap..Not me any more.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[DIGITAL]

To be honest, I'm sure you guys can beat the record in that video by a mile with more practice. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif The finesse and decisions in that video are very clumsy.

[colour_thief]

I don't know..Have you seen the inp ?

I don't know if your stick are better than jago's, but I must admit I have never succeded to take confidence on his stick..Even after 3 days..
I was not at my maximum on july with you..
And you know I improved since for the sub-20G..
Next time YOU will be the handicap..Not me any more.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif


I don't often watch inp replays because my home computer does not emulate TAP at full speed. As for my sticks, they are the exact same quality as in a well kept Japanese arcade. I have both Seimitsu and Sanwa sticks in my machine.


Can you specify the exact stick you normally use? Then we can find out what parts are inside it.

[PetitPrince]

I don't often watch inp replays because my home computer does not emulate TAP at full speed.

Do you want me to youtubize it ?

[Bou]

yes PetitPrince you can put our inp on youtube !

[Amnesia]

To be honest, I'm sure you guys can beat the record in that video by a mile with more practice. The finesse and decisions in that video are very clumsy.



Sure !! When I saw the inp I thought : "Dawn it is rubbish !!"


Bou and I could break the 4min !!


c_t, I use the XBOX arcade stick from GAMESTER..I paid it 30€, 6 months later I found the same for Bou at 25€, and last months I bought it again at 17€..I often see it in video game shop..


[/url]


I added later a piece of plastic (cut from a card) to move it in a 4 way stick, and to limit the movements..


[url=http://imageshack.us/default.htm] (http://imageshack.us/default.htm)

[PetitPrince]

yes PetitPrince you can put our inp on youtube !

Here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fvtvgWWsYXA) you go

[colour_thief]

I just completed this DeHackEd, on what I believe was out third attempt.


DeHackEd--------------- 300 @ 05:34:90 @ 300 -----------colour_thief

[Kitaru]

http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/305/tapdoublesdheajk300300xx9.png
The fruit of nine attempts, heh.

[K]

done in akihabara past saturday yup http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif
KAN ---------------- 300 @ 04:09:75 @ 300 -------------------- JAGO

[Amnesia]

Aie c_t... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif Now we know our next minimal objectif..


He he... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif 4:09, we will destroy it and make a video..


Bou on leur montre ?? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[Rosti LFC]

KAN and Jago?


That's like going to an amateur doubles match of Tennis and bringing Roger Federer as your partner http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[K]

RostiThat's like going to an amateur doubles match of Tennis and bringing Roger Federer as your partner

Thanks for me ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

new records btw :


KAN --> 3:48:25 <-- KIL


http://www.the-shell.net/Picture0005.jpg

[Amnesia]

Aie...Aie.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif
c_t on va avoir du boulot la....

We are the only one here who can beat that !!

Next time --> New World Record or nothing !! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif

[gila]

omg that 3:48 is so fast. i wish i could check out such replay.

[K]

Aie...Aie.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif
c_t on va avoir du boulot la....
We are the only one here who can beat that !!
Next time --> New World Record or nothing !! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif

ah ah ah


Each time we play together, Kan and me broke our previous record... We really enjoy our compatibility when playing in cooperation.

But as we must pay for each attemps, it considerably limite our sessions length http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[colour_thief]

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:51:01 @ 300 ---------------DeHackEd

Completed this time on my machine.

[DeHackEd]

...and here's the replay in AVI format (http://nihon.se/arika/tgm2p-doubles.avi) and here's the youtube version (http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=NBAT4TlIj9M)


Edit: youtube was on the fritz when I first posted. It's okay now.

[Amnesia]

I am attempting a little demonstration to deduct the best potential time for two players with same SKill for the sub 20G..

Objectif --> sub 3:20 (world record = 3:22)


Info :

-colour_thief : 0-100 --> 53,75

-Amnesia : 0-100 --> 53,9

(base : ~55sec --> 1,3 tm/s) <---- Ra(tm/s) = 5.Lv / 7.t


Problematic :

MASTER 300 --> ~2:45

DOUBLE 300s --> ~???


Main hypothesis :

-no block at all at the end

-no hesitation (perfect game)

-instant sideway speed

-no lost time at 300 (both at 300 at the same time)


Data :


              |  DOUBLE  |  MASTER  |
              |          |          |
Matrix size   |    14    |    10    |
              |          |          |
Tet/lines     |   3.5    |   2,5    |
              |          |          |
Rate (tm/s)   |   2.6    |   1,3    |
              |          |          |
Levels        |   600    |   300    |
              |          |          |
Line C D (fr) |     0 fr |    40 fr |
              |          |          |             
ARE           |    25 fr |    25 fr | 


I can't find these following values for the Double mode :

ARE and Line Cl

(hypothesis : DAS is including in ARE and lock delay is reduced to 0)


Is it good for that ? -->


Master 0-300 --> ARE : 25 ; Line Cl : 40

Double 0-300 --> ARE : 25 ; Line Cl : 0


http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_question.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_question.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_question.gif

[colour_thief]

I think you mean line clear delay, not lock delay. Lock delay is definitely not 0.

[Amnesia]

ofcourse, but I start with the hypothesis that our drop/lock is 100% efficient !

[colour_thief]

So do you know the right calculations?


(300/3.5) * 2.5 = 215 pieces minimum to reach 300 in Master.

(600/4.5) * 3.5 = 467 minimum pieces played to reach 300 in Doubles.

(~234 per player)


Also, consider that there are fewer fast time attack moves available because of the larger shared screen. Each player only gets 1 wall to DAS against and must more often double or triple tap. This will make tm/s slower than Master on average.


If we use your estimate of 1.3 tm/s per player, we are looking at a clear time of 3 minutes. To get a clear time of 3:20, we would need a speed of ~1.17 tm/s per player.

[Amnesia]

Sorry, I had just put the hypothesis without finished my calculation..


Maybe I will continue to think a bit later about it..But your result seems logical.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

I am also thinking about the best strategy of building stack and lines, in the center in my opinion..It should reduce the tap tap tap inconvenient..

To perform a "semi full DAS" until the center of the matrix is not so hard..

There is no need to favorise a side for lines because we can play as fast..

Anyway, 1,17 tm/s is not really impossible..If we admit our brains are 99% connected.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
I am sure with an intense practice of 2 days, we can be almost perfectly synchrone..


And I was expecting that edo bring his support also for the calculation..

[colour_thief]

I am also thinking about the best strategy of building stack and lines, in the center in my opinion..It should reduce the tap tap tap inconvenient..


Another idea I had was to place the hole on the right, with lines cleared by player 2. BUT! Player 1 would use only very fast moves, and player 2 would use slower moves to place pieces in the centre. With the lines given to player 2, it would balance out.


But I think that both of our ideas are biased in terms of thinking of a "long game". What is very important is keeping the screen low, so maybe the best strategy instead is for both players to clear any line, "freestyle".

[Amnesia]

Freestyle is better for top speed but it is a bit more open for opportunity to mistakes..mistakes of placement and mistakes of bad synchronisme..


I like your idea, it is well thought, but the player who plays on the left, with 5-6 squares to build will often need to put away a tetriminos (to avoid mistakes) and can disrupt the organization of the right player..


We are in the good way if we think about it now..We just have to practice TAP sub-20G before we meet, I will take 10 days or 2 weeks to practice intensively I think..I hope 3 days will be enough to set a record..


The detail which scares me the most is my tetlag on your stick.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[Rosti LFC]

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/doubleshigh.png

"RST" is Rosti LFC using a joystick.

"ARK" is actually LordPie, he's just too much of a spaz to enter his name in.

Only the second time we've done it, over a minute and a half faster than our previous best.

[jujube]

damn, i wanted to beat Rostipie by myself. not gonna happen now.

[colour_thief]

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:18:86 @ 300 ---------------DeHackEd

Take that Amnesia! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Amnesia]

KAN-------------------- 300 @ 03:48:25 @ 300 -------------------JAGO
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:18:86 @ 300 ---------------DeHackEd
Amnesia---------------- 300 @ 04:18:98 @ 300 --------------------Bou

Ridiculous.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif I can't accept ANY MORE to not be the first..


Let us fix it next week..

[colour_thief]

And the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6TNXqJVzAc


Only 7 frames faster than you and Bou!

[colour_thief]

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:12:01 @ 300 ---------------Amnesia

Our first clear together... We're expecting to do better before Amnesia returns to Gatineau.

[Amnesia]

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8100/recorddoubleoc7.jpg

HOLY SHIT !!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Bye bye Jago and Kan !!

[Pineapple]

KAN and Jago?

That's like going to an amateur doubles match of Tennis and bringing Roger Federer as your partner http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/8100/recorddoubleoc7.jpg

HOLY SHIT !!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Bye bye Jago and Kan !!

Rosti, I think you'll find that it's more like bring Roger Federer as your partner and then getting your ass handed to you...

[jujube]

wow, great game you guys. video coming?

[Amnesia]

Amnesia------300--4:38:01--300-----DeHackEd

[K]

hmmm

interesting http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif
in 2 weeks i should receive my TAP jamma from France


Resistance is futile http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[lee n]

Ridiculous.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif I can't accept ANY MORE to not be the first..

Let us fix it next week..


.. and how!

[colour_thief]

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 03:59:48 @ 300 ---------------DeHackEd

[colour_thief]

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 03:55:50 @ 300 ---------------DeHackEd

3rd place on my machine! Watch out Amnesia. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[colour_thief]

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 05:28:71 @ 300 ------------------merpy

A solid clear with my girlfriend! She's still new to TGM but progressing nicely. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[colour_thief]

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 05:28:71 @ 300 ------------------merpy

A solid clear with my girlfriend! She's still new to TGM but progressing nicely. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

I've uploaded this video if anyone was curious:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=2ledvD23-t0

It takes fairly different strategy with a lopsided skill distribution.

[rednefed]

Wow, impressive. How new to TGM?
When my brother and I tried texmaster doubles, it took us over 7 minutes to clear it together. Granted, he hasn't touched tetris since the NES days...

And an unrelated question: what are the speed timings for doubles? I'm guessing ARE, DAS, Lock, and Clear are 25, 16, 30, and 0 frames respectively, but gravity doesn't follow either Normal or Master modes (and data are not on the wiki).

[muf]

I've uploaded this video if anyone was curious:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=2ledvD23-t0

It takes fairly different strategy with a lopsided skill distribution.
Wow! interesting to watch. It looks like you solved the level problem by letting her do most of the line clears, which results in level bonus that actually keeps her level ahead of yours. Next stop: clearing the credit roll http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

but gravity doesn't follow either Normal or Master modes (and data are not on the wiki).
I'm pretty sure it uses the Normal mode speedcurve, but without items.

[colour_thief]

Wow, impressive. How new to TGM?
Extremely new to TGM and otherwise almost virgin to Tetris. She has reached 500 in Ti Master, but can't come close in TAP. And she's only done it once and got torikan stopped.

[DeHackEd]

but gravity doesn't follow either Normal or Master modes (and data are not on the wiki).
I'm pretty sure it uses the Normal mode speedcurve, but without items.

It feels like the Normal curve at first, except the speed doesn't reset to near-zero at Lv200 again. It just continues to increase. So it's not exactly like Normal. I should probably graph it and put it on the wiki.

[colour_thief]

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:39:60 @ 300 ------------------merpy

This one was actually recorded! A smoking fast new record giving a 50 second improvement.

[K]

Meet Kan today at Shinjuku.
Second attempt and :

http://the-shell.net/images/double_kan_&_jago.jpg

sorry. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

[colour_thief]

ORZ

Amneeesiaaaaaaaaa....

[DIGITAL]

That's a really awesome run with KAN, jago. You guys should really play more often.

[Amnesia]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif
aie...
I won't come back in America before a while... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mad.gif

[K]

ok, we are currently trying to find out a date http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Amnesia]

I know somebody who are still unable to break the Torikan... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
Follow my finger.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

[K]

today, Kan is coming to my house specially for Double http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif
we hope to do some good stuff... if we have time http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

[K]

well, both too much tired to do anything constructive today : http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

[Amnesia]

Ha ha..So funny, did you really thought that you and kan would beat your record each time you meet ??
Your last record was a fluke..If I come back in Canada next year, we will fix the pb ct and me.

[K]

sorry, in fact we haven't played doubles (just one play)... but more about other things your tiny speed oriented brain can't understand (tapette) http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

[colour_thief]

You two should just make out already. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[DIGITAL]

You two should just make out already. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif
What makes you think they haven't already? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[Rosti LFC]

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/rst196.png

Not bad for a first attempt.

Seriously, Edo, we should be able to do way better http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[colour_thief]

Are you saying that 196 is Edo? Or that you'll do better with Edo than with 196?

[Rosti LFC]

The latter

(seeing as 196 is Lardarse http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif)

[Rosti LFC]

Took way too many goes (alcohol probably didn't help), but we improved as things went on and got there in the end:

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/doubles.png

Definitely scope to go faster with a bit more practice.

[colour_thief]

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:30:78 @ 300 ------------------merpy

[jujube]

that's a pretty good time.

[merpy]

that's a pretty good time.

Thanks! He slows me up, but we manage. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[jujube]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[colour_thief]

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 04:23:66 @ 300 ------------------merpy

[colour_thief]

http://pici.se/pictures/YiADenCyM.jpg

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[Amnesia]

That was unavoidable..our record resisted one year anyway...

[KevinDDR]

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/7449/0053.png

Difficult!

Tada came over to my house. He lives really near me.

[DeHackEd]

Update my and CT's time: 3:36.28

[muf]

http://mufunyo.net/tetris/doubles_muf_wrk_229.png

http://mufunyo.net/tetris/doubles_muf_wrk_229_ranking.png

mufunyo---------------- 229 @ 06:29:25 @ 218 -----------------Wracky

[Wracky]

Whoa! I'm on here :D

Hi everyone ;-)
Hi Mufunyo!

[Edo]

Hi Wracky!

[Amnesia]

Our score is not on the leaderboard kevin.

Rosti do you remember our time ? Or can you find it ?

[Rosti LFC]

I can try finding it, seeing as I have the replays.

[colour_thief]

http://pici.se/thumbs/t_mCoPrXRpo.gif (http://pici.se/pictures/mCoPrXRpo.jpg)
http://pici.se/thumbs/t_xZhVLxFgl.gif (http://pici.se/pictures/xZhVLxFgl.jpg)
http://pici.se/thumbs/t_HborOmiBK.gif (http://pici.se/pictures/HborOmiBK.jpg)

colour_thief----------- 300 @ 05:05:36 @ 300 ---------------KevinDDR
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 05:07:40 @ 300 --------------------TWF
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 05:19:90 @ 300 ----------------Ezzelin
myndzi----------------- 300 @ 05:27:80 @ 300 -----------colour_thief
colour_thief----------- 300 @ 05:33:96 @ 300 --------------------mat

Boom! Yeah this was great fun, but all of these are simply my first completions with these partners and could have been much improved if we had more time. My score with mat for example was our one and only try!

[DeHackEd]

Grump ----------------- 300 @ 07:25:76 @ 300 ---------------DeHackEd
(http://tetrisconcept.net/dhe/Doubles-Daveski-DeHackEd.zip)

He's a coworker and basically doesn't play TGM. I didn't think we'd actually pull it off, but we had a few good runs, and a clear came!

[PetitPrince]

A lot of stress at the end but we finally made it:
PetitPrince ----------- 300 @ 05:57:16 @ 300 --------------- Suohfei

[muf]

:awe::awe::awe::awe:

GREEN LINE! :biggrin:

http://mufunyo.net/tetris/muf_rst_doubles_clear.png
http://mufunyo.net/tetris/muf_rst_doubles_clear_rank.png


Of course Murphy dictated that the moment we clear Doubles the first time the DVD recorder decides the disc is full... D: So we don't have a video (we do have hours worth of failed Doubles attempts :v)

[DeHackEd]

New record:

http://tetrisconcept.net/dhe/doubles-51676.png


Grump ----------------- 300 @ 05:16:76 @ 300 ---------------DeHackEd


Video was recorded. Dunno if I'll even keep it.

[muf]

Aspect ratio fail D:

[DeHackEd]

Yeah. 1440x900 monitor (dual) and xmame has no video mode change capability on this system. Fedora botched up SDL and/or XRANDR.

[DeHackEd]

Grump ----------------- 300 @ 04:57:00 @ 300 ---------------DeHackEd


Nice.

[Kitaru]

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5965/0032.png
Kitaru + Ray Ayanami

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5345/0031.png
CrazedRevenge + Kitaru

Yay Doubles! :D

[Kitaru]

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs470.snc3/25799_382184530674_515950674_3720064_3485638_n.jpg

[Kitaru]

DDRKirby and I brought sticks to Fanime for some good ol' TGM2 action. During our session, we cleared Doubles!
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs640.snc3/32111_398421685674_515950674_4087818_2401956_n.jpg

Ray and I also made some attempts, but we were unable to get up to our previous 300-299 best. I think we'll probably be giving it a few more shots before the con ends. :)

[TWF]

If ct and I (an M and an s9) could clear it, a GM and an s2 should be able to as well :P

[Kitaru]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs590.snc3/31111_402067300674_515950674_4188236_5567930_n.jpg
Played with Ineluctable Entropy. :]

[Ineluctable_Entropy]

Stop being sleepy, Kitaru. I want to beat this mode.

On another note: Kitaru mentioned how I should learn how to use both rotational keys when playing as it will aid me in getting a faster time. Is there any other tips that other players who have beaten this mode can provide for me on this subject? I am hoping to beat this mode with a time under 5:30:00.

[DeHackEd]

Line clear delay is effectively zero. Do not be afraid to make singles. Better to keep the playfield spotlessly clean (ha!) than to stack for tetrises.

[Amnesia]

Maybe it is only psycological, but even when line clear delay = 0, I have a real feeling to save time in making a lot of tetrises.

[Ineluctable_Entropy]

Ah, I see.

Thanks for the tidbit, DeHackEd. I was originally doing that but when I looked at Kitaru's side, I saw how he was stacking it for Tetrises. He being the better player, I copied him and starting stacking for Tetrises as well (I'm more partial to combo-ing, tbh).

I spoke with Kitaru on this and apparently, he was doing this in consideration of my slow and unskillful playing. :(

But now I will combo to my heart's content! :awe:

[Kitaru]

I was just trying to stack up on my side quickly to catch up in levels and also provide a good amount of material to clear. :)

[Ineluctable_Entropy]

I don't think we are going any fast, hahaha...:D

[Kitaru]

Sure we are! :p 4:53 at ~280/~260? I think that's a better pace. Our 299/300 game was 10 levels behind that around that time.

[Ineluctable_Entropy]

Sure we are! :p 4:53 at ~280/~260? I think that's a better pace. Our 299/300 game was 10 levels behind that around that time.

I rather reserve judgment until we hit 299/300 again.

[Budster]

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s243/Budster650/Tetris/brtDbl.png
Budster---------------- 217 @ 07:58:63 @ 180 ------------Umbravocare

Eh.
We'll get there eventually.

[Ineluctable_Entropy]

Kitaru, post it now! ಠ_ಠ

Been a few days already...

[Kitaru]

It wasn't better unfortunately, 5:37:00.

Also, in addition to me flinging a piece and missing a line clear that would have finished the game, the next piece decided it was going to gravity lock, prevent more pieces from coming out, and cause me to misdrop the next two straight down. >:G

[Ineluctable_Entropy]

Post the game glitching so horribly we lost 5+ seconds!

[Kitaru]

I need to record it first. There is something like 15 minutes of decent runs before it that I'd need to fast forward through. I'll do video things later today.

[Amnesia]

My work is fucking annoying..
So I killed the time in trying a way to mesure people on an individual leaderboard :


1er 10 pts
2 7 pts
3 5 pts
4 3 pts
5 2 pts
6 1 pt
7 0,9 pt
8 0,8 pt
9 0,7 pt
10 0,6 pt
11 0,5 pt
12 0,4 pt
13 0,3 pt
14 0,2 pt
15 0,1 pt


Rank/points cumul :


c_t 2_3_5_12_15 14,5
Kan 1 10
jago 1 10
Amn 3_4_8_10 9,4
DHE 2_8_13 8,1
Bou 4 3
Kitaru 7_11 1,4
Kevin 7_15 1
Rosti 9_ 0,7
Edo 9_ 0,7

[colour_thief]

I'm quite curious to see it. I've played a lot of doubles, and seen a lot of glitches, but that one is news to me.

[Kitaru]

I'm not 100% sure whether or not it is something new now. I think I got the weird gravity/lock delay cancel bug, tried to mash down out of it, got delayed by it, and then managed to mash the pieces into the stack when they finally did spawn. It seemed to last longer than your standard gravity freeze when I was playing it, but I could be wrong.

[colour_thief]

The only time I've seen a piece delayed is if the other player's piece is physically occupying its spawn area.

[Kitaru]

Well, I'll take a video of it and we'll try to puzzle out what happened.

Just don't make fun of me too much for missing those line clears. :oops: (I think my brain was treating things like 20G instead of 1G.)

[Ineluctable_Entropy]

(I think my brain was treating things like 20G instead of 1G.)

What's 1 G? 20G is the max gravity, right? So 1 G is... the beginning gravity? :confused:

[Ineluctable_Entropy]

The only time I've seen a piece delayed is if the other player's piece is physically occupying its spawn area.

Couldn't have. I purposefully kept my pieces to my side.

[Kitaru]

A G is a unit of speed measurement in rows fallen per frame. 1G means that every frame of game logic, the piece falls one row. In Master, the game reaches 1G at level 251. TAP starts at 1/64 G, which is about one second between drops. If you want to see the speed of 1G, press down; the soft drop accelerates to 1G, provided the game isn't already faster than that at the moment.

[TWF]

This is something I've been wondering about: how do TGM games treat soft drop at speeds greater than 1G? Does it affect the drop speed at all?

[Kitaru]

Does it affect the drop speed at all?
Nope, although I think there was some soft drop anomaly in TGM1 that could delay gravity by a frame or something wonky. You'd have to ask nightmareci or look at his notes.

[Kitaru]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs162.snc4/37432_408868290674_515950674_4362807_6092920_n.jpg
No new record but sajfkldsflsdjf look at that time!
Improvement in only a week! :o

[Kitaru]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs517.ash1/30454_408987555674_515950674_4364846_3976135_n.jpg
8D

[Ineluctable_Entropy]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTTTT :AWE:

Tbh, I wasn't even serious when playing...:sneaky:



I wish I was though...D:

[cyberguile]

amnesia and cyberguile (strasbourg)
4:49:48

[K]

K -------- 4 : 26 : 03 ---------- Amnesia

[K]

K -------- 4 : 14 : 25 ---------- Amnesia

[Kitaru]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs639.snc4/59981_438701710674_515950674_5072632_123608_n.jpg
On the second attempt of the day, we achieved our third completion. We weren't too far away from taking the credits either!

[Ineluctable_Entropy]

K -------- 4 : 26 : 03 ---------- Amnesia

I will work hard! :D

[K]

K -------- 3 : 44: 03 ---------- Amnesia

Now amnesia, please do your homeworks...

[Amnesia]

A shame that you found "the tactic" just a few hours before I leave.
Next time we will set the world record.

[K]

A shame that you we found "the tactic" just a few hours before I leave.
2 people with such "Autism Spectrum Quotient can't get wrong (or good)

[muf]

You guys. :D

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

http://img545.imageshack.us/img545/6528/0004p.png
DDRKirby(ISQ) and imiganai (who hasn't played TGM in a few months xD)

We were also playing under a terribly laggy setup (our current setup is better).

[KevinDDR]

I played some doubles with TWF's girlfriend Samael today at school. :D

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs057.snc6/168719_10150133113681810_595986809_7922913_705222_ n.jpg

[TWF]

I changed my mind. You guys aren't allowed to complete it before I complete it with both of you. :(

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

I haven't gotten around to it yet, but be sure to watch me and imiganai's vid after i upload it. it's kind of hilarious xD

[Amnesia]

TWF's girlfriend Samael

So Samael is a girl, and the girlfriend of TWF...
ha, the world is small.
I have seen The name "Samael" plenty of time in some tetris place ignoring this.

[TWF]

So Samael is a girl, and the girlfriend of TWF...
ha, the world is small.
I have seen The name "Samael" plenty of time in some tetris place ignoring this.

i think it's a pretty common username. samael is like a jewish devil or something.

[Samael]

i think it's a pretty common username. samael is like a jewish devil or something.

or when I chose it, "angel of death." I thought I *could* be good at death one day and then my name would have meaning! Look where that's gotten me... (nowhere)

[Zircean]

I thought Shirase was your big thing... you know, having your birthday on 2/28 and all, and fighting me about not wanting to play TGM1 because you wanted to play Sudden Ti instead :P

[TWF]

I don't think I've ever seen her play shirase... and since I have control of the sudden ti leaderboard I'd have added her if I saw a score.

[Samael]

I thought Shirase was your big thing... you know, having your birthday on 2/28 and all, and fighting me about not wanting to play TGM1 because you wanted to play Sudden Ti instead :P
and at 2:28pm! but...my birth certificate says 2:30. bad fate I guess :(

and with all seriousness, I'll eventually work my way towards Ti (after I get S9 in Master and 500 in death, perhaps? ^_^)

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

Video of my clear with imiganai.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB_ed_grkmI

Superawesomeness at around 1:36 (videotime, not gametime)

[DDRKirby(ISQ)]

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5658/screenshot0320201104135.png

New record by DDRKirby(ISQ) and imiganai

Took a LOT of tries but we finally got a clear =D

We recorded the .inp (http://www.mediafire.com/?s7u9vsbgz13w9hu) but unfortunately it gets that "out of sync" error whenever we try to play it back. We were recording using the linux version of 0.133 tgmshmupmame...is this an nvram/cfg file issue or something? (i don't remember whether you have to do anything special with those when you record .inps)

[Kitaru]

Yes, always back-up your NVRAM before recording so you can playback with the same randomizer seed. You can make a convenient script to automate the process of making a copy of tgm2p.nv, starting MAME for the recording, then timestamping and/or zipping the files.

[TWF]

speaking of mame scripts, here is my pro as hell setup:

recordplay-fullscreen.bat
for /f "tokens=1,2,3 delims=/ " %%a in ('DATE /T') do set date=%%a-%%b-%%c
for /f "tokens=1,2 delims=: " %%a in ('TIME /T') do set time=%%a-%%b

copy /y nvram\%1.nv nvram\last-%1.nv

mametgm.exe %1 -record last-%1.inp

"C:\Program Files\7-Zip\7z.exe" a "inp\%1-%date%-%time%.7z" inp\last-%1.inp nvram\last-%1.nv

recordplay-windowed.bat
for /f "tokens=1,2,3 delims=/ " %%a in ('DATE /T') do set date=%%a-%%b-%%c
for /f "tokens=1,2 delims=: " %%a in ('TIME /T') do set time=%%a-%%b

copy /y nvram\%1.nv nvram\last-%1.nv

mametgm.exe %1 -record last-%1.inp -window

"C:\Program Files\7-Zip\7z.exe" a "inp\%1-%date%-%time%.7z" inp\last-%1.inp nvram\last-%1.nv

tgm2p-fullscreen.bat
recordplay-fullscreen.bat tgm2p

tgm2p-windowed.bat
recordplay-windowed.bat tgm2p

tgmj-fullscreen.bat
recordplay-fullscreen.bat tgmj

tgmj-windowed.bat
recordplay-windowed.bat tgmj

[KevinDDR]

bro as hell

still trying to get doubles 300/300 with Samael before TWF does

[KevinDDR]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/224783_10150235825861810_595986809_8693536_2929976 _n.jpg

Pow!

KevinDDR - Samael

[Samael]

Aww yeah B)
It was on the one day I didn't bring my flash drive though, so we couldn't record it.

[Kitaru]

Well, this sucks. My SD card in my phone is still retarded after reformatting, so I don't have the clear pic from when Jerycho and I played around a week ago. Well, put a Kitaru 300-300 Jerycho @ 6:--:-- up there, I guess. We've also had some faster failed runs, so I'll try to get an accurate report next time we have a completion.

[Samael]

http://ompldr.org/vOG5vdw
:v

[KevinDDR]

We have a inp this time. This was done during our final day in the same free block at school. I guess I'll probably not have as many chances to play doubles with her now but I'm pretty happy with the time.

[TWF]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1179275/0061.png
woo! this feels more doable now that we've cleared it once.

[TWF]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYVXKlf-cxk

[Rosti LFC]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10867570/Doubles_Rost%2BKevin.png

First blood from Eindhoven, and that was just our second attempt. And we're not even using PCBs yet.

[Rosti LFC]

And video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2783dJRBxM

[Kitaru]

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/302044_10150379261795675_515950674_8296185_1076900 003_n.jpg
s0 pr0 :awe:

[muf]

Booted up TAP today and found out I forgot to upload a screenshot of me and Jago's Doubles clear! :D

http://mufunyo.net/tetris/doubles_jago_muf_5_59_68.png

Performed at the Eindhoven 2011 meeting.