[Ti] Shirase

[colour_thief]

CLASSIC RULE

Rank--Name----------------Grade - Lvl @ Time - Date - ST AC CO SK - Line - Notes

================================================== ============================================

1--KevinDDR--------------S12 - 1292 @ 05:18:80 - 07/18/11 - GO GO
2--nahucirujano----------S12 - 1264 @ 05:53:75 - 07/12/11 - GO GO
3--Edo-------------------S12 - 1257 @ 05:15:70 - 07/24/10 - SI GO - - no hold
4--colour_thief----------S12 - 1218 @ 05:45:28 - 11/29/09 - GO GO
5--K---------------------S12 - 1215 @ 05:40:13 - 11/--/11 - GO GO
6--rednefed--------------S12 - 1210 @ 05:34:65 - 07/23/11
7--mat-------------------S11 - 1120 @ 05:21:53 - 05/--/11 - GO GO
8--Amnesia---------------S10 - 1093 @ 05:03:05 - 03/05/11 - GO GO
9--TWF-------------------S10 - 1040 @ 04:44:35 - 07/31/11 - SI SI
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10--Kitaru-----------------S7 - 731 @ 03:18:41 - 11/06/11 - - GO BR
11--Rosti LFC--------------S7 - 713 @ 03:22:16 - 07/13/11 - SI
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12--DeHackEd---------------S5 - 500 @ 02:35:21 - 11/29/09 - BR
13--Kasumi-----------------S5 - 500 @ 02:47:78 - 10/10/11 - GO BR
14--m.kevin----------------S5 - 500 @ 03:09:71 - 11/--/11 - GO
15--SWR--------------------S5 - 500 @ 03:21:35 - 05/19/10 - SI
16--Qlex-------------------S4 - 405 @ 02:55:41 - 13/07/11
17--steadshot--------------S3 - 398 @ 02:33:16 - 07/22/11 - GO
18--Tartang----------------S2 - 286 @ 01:54:01 - --/--/11 - GO
19--mufunyo----------------S2 - 270 @ 01:45:90 - 11/06/09
20--Ray Ayanami------------S2 - 213 @ 01:28:56 - 12/05/10 - GO
21--merpy------------------S1 - 150 @ 00:50:61 - 01/09/10

WORLD RULE

Rank--Name----------------Grade - Lvl @ Time - Date - ST AC CO SK - Line - Notes

================================================== ============================================

1--[-Steve-]-------------S13 - 1300 @ 05:29:63 - 10/14/11 - SI GO - - Orange
2--KevinDDR--------------S13 - 1300 @ 06:54:50 - 11/--/09 - - - Orange
3--mat-------------------S13 - 1300 @ 07:13:36 - 06/13/11 - GO GO - - Green
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4--Amnesia---------------S12 - 1288 @ 06:08:25 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeLm1cE7qjM) - 09/18/11 - GO GO - -
5--Kasumi-----------------S6 - 611 @ 03:39:26 - 10/10/11 - GO SI - -
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6--The Enigmatic Form-----S1 - 181 @ 00:58:20 - 11/22/08 - BR - -


With Acme having Ti now, I thought we could start keeping track of Shirase records.

[KevinDDR]

Ah! I knew someone was going to start this. I'll make sure to write down everyone's scores and the machine records at the end of tonight's meeting.

[NoTghost]

Holy shit !! well done c_t ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

I remember that my best was 500 @ 2:46:XX.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[The Enigmatic Form]

Played it today for the first time. But probably "play" is the wrong word, as it rather was a panicstruck try to survive. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

World: 0:57:63 Level 145 Silver ST

[KevinDDR]

I assume you mean Shirase:? Or did you just forget to state your rot. system?

[The Enigmatic Form]

Yeah, shit, sorry, I just pasted it from the .txt file where I keep my scores, and I mixed something up.

[NoTghost]

And 500 at 3:16 for world rules..

[kapat]

umm, no pic...but i think i maxed out at like 150...ish

let's say 125 for good measure. i'm not goin got waste anymore 50 cent tries till i get my joystick

[colour_thief]

Cool kapat, but please specify World or Classic. I'll assuming it's the same thing every time unless you specify otherwise, but I need to know the first time at least.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Level 181 0:58:20 ST BR

[kapat]

don't even put me up there yet, just strike me from the record. i'mma wait to hit it hard once i get a joystick of my own. my goal is 300 in shirase in classic. i should be able to hit 500 in world cause i won't bother trying to lock it anyways. but we'll see.

[colour_thief]

Shirase 1015! Actually this was done a few days ago but it took a while to get setup to process the video with my new PC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNovo91s9sc&fmt=18

[KevinDDR]

*mutters*

Amnesia is a piece of cake...Amnesia is a piece of cake...Amnesia is a piece of cake...

In the event of Sanwa joysticks, proceed to rock the fuck out.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/8527/76964845ee6.jpg

[TWF]

I had 169 in classic but I don't know the time, S1 though.

[KevinDDR]

You'd think I would have learned my lesson by now.

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/343/0125091931mx8.jpg

[colour_thief]

   1--colour_thief----------S11 - 1119 @ 05:20:50 - 02/01/09 - GO       GO

Another personal best on a Sanwa. I think I'm officially ambi-sticktrous.

[Amnesia]

Have you tried to play 1200-1300 a bit on sudden ti ? That could help you..Because you don't have any cheat on your astrocity for practicing, and when you will break 1200 for the first time, you will receive a big shock..

and a last thing, do you stop manual locking at 500 or 600 ?

[colour_thief]

I have played a few hours of Texmaster but I don't like it for practice so I will stop. I feel I get better practice on the real machine... I'll explain this better in your consistency thread.

[KevinDDR]

http://photos-h.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v653/24/45/595986809/n595986809_2074223_680.jpg

Hmm!

[colour_thief]

My Shirase record for the curious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK2qTLGnDgE&fmt=18

[muf]

My Shirase record for the curious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK2qTLGnDgE&fmt=18
When are you going to use hold for something else than just I pieces? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[colour_thief]

Well right now I do freestyle but only whenever I pull my I out of hold. It would definitely be cool to try full-on freestyle to see how well it works, and it would be good practice because there isn't much freetyling with the standard strategy. But for now I'm sticking to proven methods... Even the grandmasters primarily keep an I piece in there.

[muf]

But for now I'm sticking to proven methods... Even the grandmasters primarily keep an I piece in there.
Well I brought it up because I noticed you create overhangs where you could just use hold instead to keep a flat stack. This in turn speeds you up and enables you to survive longer. It's rather interesting; your play style reminds me of KAN's no-hold performances in the use of overhangs in Ti. Also, when you create overhangs, I notice you use suboptimal pieces to fill it (example: 03:17:06) where correct hold use would have provided you with a faster and more elegant solution.

[Rosti LFC]

Yeah, I was wondering about the I-only hold thing. Especially when you have quite a high stack and you're not using the held I to clear things down a little.

[colour_thief]

Rosti I actually feel completely comfortable at the top of the screen with an open tetris hole and an I piece in hold. I'm still in complete control. If you think I kept my stack too high in this video, wait until you see my Master performance. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

I notice you use suboptimal pieces to fill it (example: 03:17:06) where correct hold use would have provided you with a faster and more elegant solution.

Oh, I definitely have a long list of ways I could improve, with better hold use being high up there. It's only recently that I've been able to use hold 600+ at all, so I have no shame in my imperfection. As soon as I get a good hold on it, I would expect that to come up less often.

[mushroom]

As soon as I get a good hold on it,

boo

[colour_thief]

   1--colour_thief----------S11 - 1150 @ 05:22:31 - 02/10/09 - GO       GO

[colour_thief]

   1--colour_thief----------S11 - 1176 @ 05:19:55 - 03/24/09 - SI       GO

http://pici.se/pictures/lqvweSDjO.jpg

A final session before swapping TAP in for the Carnival of Death.

[KevinDDR]

Nope!

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/2923_94726199357_740174357_2469743_1671238_n.jpg

Who wants to go for a joyride?

[TWF]

372, not sure about time.

[KevinDDR]

It's too much.

http://pici.se/pictures/small/effmpjgBa.png

I want jago's elevator music.

[muf]

Yay I don't die at level 99 anymore ~ :cow:

http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/7465/dsc04467f.jpg (http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC04467.JPG)

[Rosti LFC]

To: KevinDRR
Subject: Re: all the shitty-but-fast Shirase scores you keep posting
Message body: Know your place biatch.
Attachment(s):
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/751/dsc00239fb.jpg

:twisted::biggrin::awe::v

[KevinDDR]

Actually I've had 860ish for quite a while now.

[colour_thief]

Actually I've had 860ish for quite a while now.

Kevin, whatever your motivations for withholding (kevholding?) records, you should know that it's kind of a rude thing to do in such a small community. You should follow my example... If I have a new record in a mode I play seriously then I post it. I don't upload every new record to Youtube, I wait for a significant improvement. "Surprise attacks" or whatever you're going for just make you look bad.

Showing your progress allows others to congratulate you and also see the very human learning curve we're all working through. It encourages everyone to play and do better. And prevents stuff like Rosti making obsolete "friendly rivalry" comments.

[Rosti LFC]

Yeah, damn lee_n and his "I won't post death scores until I'm M" :rolleyes:

I was aiming more for the time aspect of that record than the level. Joystick or not, I'm not going to consider anything below 900 in Shirase to be a great score when I've broken 1100 in Texmaster. That screenshot was far more for Kevins "oh wow this time is awesome" posts than anything to do with level. So yeah don't either of you get into any sort of sweat over it, because an 860 means jack-shit to me unless the time was sub 2:30 or something.

I mean, my account on Ti has only 40 plays (fucking time consuming doubles). I'd be surprised if I had broken any real personal records.

[colour_thief]

Rosti, if you weren't aware your time means you got S5 at 2:21, as opposed to 579 at 2:21.

[muf]

Rosti, if you weren't aware your time means you got S5 at 2:21, as opposed to 579 at 2:21.

It's still faster than Kevin's S5.

[KevinDDR]

I don't have any motivations really. I just kind of don't care much and I have to email the photos from my phone to myself and then reupload to imageshack and then make a post and find a good quote which overall is about 10 minutes I could spend doing other things. :sowsuser:

[Kitaru]

...or you could just say level @ time and be done with it. :sowsuser:D::sowsuser:D::sowsuser:

[KevinDDR]

It was to be announced at the Party Congress on Monday.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8269/shirase800.jpg

[colour_thief]

I don't have any motivations really. I just kind of don't care much and I have to email the photos from my phone to myself and then reupload to imageshack and then make a post and find a good quote which overall is about 10 minutes I could spend doing other things. :sowsuser:

Yeah, you're making life difficult on yourself. You don't have to upload a picture or find a quote. Just post a record and be done with it. You'll find it liberating... It takes 30 seconds tops.

[Ai]

I must admit that some of my less important records aren't always up to date eiter. For example when Caithness posted his level 599 in TGM+ I posted my 599 I had for a while. My previous record was 591 so I thought there was no reason to post untill I passed Air Gear's 603. I posted the 599 at that time to defend my position on the leaderboard. Also it was meant as a motivation for Caithness to try harder and certainly not as a provocation. Honestly I hate it when someone marginally beats me in a mode when I believe they can actually do better which was clearly the case in this situation. ^^

That is one big improvement Kevin so there was little or no reason to not post about it, unless you thought you would do much better soon afterwards. ^^

Talking about "surprise attacks", I feel sorry for a certain someone. lol

[muf]

http://mufunyo.net/tetris/shirase_270.png

[KevinDDR]

I suppose at some point I should mention that I finally did it a few weeks ago:

World: 1300 6:xx.xx

I'll upload a screenshot when I go to Narrows today.

[DeHackEd]

Lv500 in 2:35.21

Bronze ST

[colour_thief]

1--colour_thief----------S12 - 1218 @ 05:45:28 - 11/29/09 - GO GO

w00t!

And now with youtubes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePiN3iz_onM&fmt=18

I've tried out annotations for the first time.

[merpy]

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4261003673_508bf1e120.jpg

I finally have a real (real blurry) score in Shirase! Soon I will wipe you all off the board... :p

[Amnesia]

Dear merpy, you can't be stronger than her everywhere..There is already a while that NoTghost reached DOOM 300+, which is a little bit harder than SHIRASE.

hmm :twisted:

[TWF]

I should mention this score here because it's not up yet:

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5424/img2139f.jpg

[KevinDDR]

Acme Ti...

[TWF]

That isn't acme. It's from when I went to AI in December.

[TWF]

FINALLY!

first day of Sakuracon: 586 in 2:50:11. Mastering time 2:25:71.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1179275/sakuracon-shirase586.jpg

[TWF]

bumping to point out that kevin's record (not in leaderboard yet) is also in the pic in my previous post.

[KevinDDR]

Classic, 1229, 6:xx:xx

Picture tonight.

[Budster]

o_o

Nice, Kevin...

[KevinDDR]

http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs582.snc3/30696_421546136809_595986809_5371901_7179966_n.jpg

Oh yes!
http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs307.snc3/28946_421548251809_595986809_5372086_3873969_n.jpg

Current ST rankings on my Ti. Note the fact that CT must have only played like 2 or 3 games on the machine and I still can't beat his times. What a badass!

[KevinDDR]

I forgot to post a picture of that World 1300!

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs582.snc3/30696_421932166809_595986809_5378054_4346560_n.jpg

There you go.

[TWF]

ct section times

Those 23's are disgusting.

[SWR]

I should mention this score here because it's not up yet:

[picture]

You still have first as of today.

I have S5 in 2nd (http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/7987/dscn0020mi.jpg).
Very bad time though. Gonna take a while to ever break the Torikan.

[KevinDDR]

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs631.snc3/31646_427606571809_595986809_5516231_4980673_n.jpg

Marginal improvement.

[Amnesia]

There is only a thin gap now to admit that he is going to get stronger than you c_t..
How can we stop it. I would have not imagined that he could pass the barrier of 5:50. :$

[K]

this official thread need to dig up

[Amnesia]

Mais t'es tellement mauvais aussi..:D

Au fait je viens chez toi le 5 Nov au soir t'es au courant j'espère ?!

[K]

tiens en parlant de mauv'être, il t'a fallu combien de temps pour passer le torikan ?
je veux dire a partir du moment ou tu as commencer a jouer au style TGM3 (toute version de clone confondue)

attention, j'ai des références:sneaky:

[Amnesia]

I started HEBORIS DOOM around March 2008, got 500 very quickly at 2:48 maybe...
I got my first torikan in Jun or July 2008. So 3 or 4 months.

I am lazy to check the whole HEBORIS - DOOM thread.

[KevinDDR]

It took me about a year.

[Ray Ayanami]

Shmupmeet, oh hey Ti, I was the most experienced player there which made me sad, etc.
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4918/tishirase.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/i/tishirase.jpg/)

[SWR]

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/1701/img0087vs.jpg
I did not even realize my time until right before I left. I cannot believe how close I got. I wasn't even trying (hence the fail at 499).
I'm quite upset. I just can't believe I was under the torikan by 10 seconds* and I just let myself fall...
It is going to be a long time before I perform that well again. How depressing.

*the torikan is 2:28.00 right? It's been a while.

[Edo]

I hate being the one to break it to you, but 2:18:41 is actually the time you hit level 400 and achieved the S4; not the time at death.

[SWR]

so even though my level was 499 it keeps my time when I hit S4?
Jeez that's confusing. Well I guess I have no reason to be upset anymore (except that I still need a lot of work).

[TWF]

Ti time is always mastering time, and your grade gets updated each section

well really tgm ranking time is always mastering time

[K]

UMA lvl 1000 in 4:33..
http://jagorochi.free.fr/images/UMA_1039.jpg


AMNESIA lvl 1000 at 4:36..
http://jagorochi.free.fr/images/amnesia_1093.jpg

[mat]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v93/Matt_Hatter83/s10.jpg

[Amnesia]

WORLD :

S12 - 1235 @ 06:29:48 (death time), Gold ST and SK

[TWF]

classic s7 741 3:21:68 (death), 3:10:81 (mastering), gold SK

[mat]

1120 - 05:21:53 - gold st, gold sk

[Edo]

Another of my old records:

1--EDO-------------------S12 - 1257 @ 05:15:70 - 07/24/10 - SI GO - no hold
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8467027/Shirase%201257%20NO%20HOLD.png

[mat]

s13 world!

2--mat-------------------S13 - 1300 @ 07:13:36 - 06/13/11 - GO GO - Green

[Ghett0]

316 @ 2:08:18

bleck

[Ghett0]

329 @ 2:05:95

small improvement

[mat]

classic s12!
3--mat-------------------S12 - 1213 @ 05:36:55 - 07/01/11 - GO GO

[[-Steve-]]

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1554/shirasew.png

Achieved on April 8, 2011

[Ghett0]

world rule is babby mode

[[-Steve-]]

world rule is babby mode

I challenge you to beat it then. Try not to TAS this time though. :D

[Ghett0]

I never TAS'd sir

Also I've tried World before. The different rotations rules, spawns and colors REALLY threw me off, I kept getting SZ mixed up etc. It's like going to some alternate alien dimension and watching what you know as the laws of reality be repeatedly broken. I'm not used to it enough to do good, but I imagine if I were used to SRS it'd be as easy as ARS with move reset (except with more hilarious spins).

[Ghett0]

I'd like to add that when I got used to SRS a few years ago I did significantly better than with ARS

[[-Steve-]]

I never TAS'd sir

Also I've tried World before. The different rotations rules, spawns and colors REALLY threw me off, I kept getting SZ mixed up etc. It's like going to some alternate alien dimension and watching what you know as the laws of reality be repeatedly broken. I'm not used to it enough to do good, but I imagine if I were used to SRS it'd be as easy as ARS with move reset (except with more hilarious spins).

Oh?

Ironically, everybody says that! Not just you, but a select other few people here at tetrisconcept also say that world is easy.

However, when I challenge them, they will find every excuse in the book on how they can't play world, how the colors, rotation, and orientation make it impossible to play, even with the all-mighty "move-reset" everybody speaks so highly of.

Guess what? When I play ARS, I don't complain how the "spawn orientation throws me off" or how "the colors make me lose".

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8800/classics.png

[Ghett0]

You get 1300 in World and 500 in Classic. Obviously ARS does throw you off.

[[-Steve-]]

You get 329 in ARS and ...what using world?

My point exactly.

[mat]

;44634']Oh?

Ironically, everybody says that! Not just you, but a select other few people here at tetrisconcept also say that world is easy.

However, when I challenge them, they will find every excuse in the book on how they can't play world, how the colors, rotation, and orientation make it impossible to play, even with the all-mighty "move-reset" everybody speaks so highly of.

Guess what? When I play ARS, I don't complain how the "spawn orientation throws me off" or how "the colors make me lose".

i don't agree with people disregarding Ti-World achievements as trivial, meaningless garbage mode, but, that being said, it is easier than Classic. or, rather it is easier to be rated with an equivalent grade (like s13). i think this has to do with the grading system really being balanced for ARS, and certain aspects of World breaking that system.

in my personal experience, which is pretty limited, i'm not sure if it's the move reset, the stances, or the kicks, but the 1100 and 1200 sections of shirase are significantly easier to "fake" my way through with poor placements and defensive nonsense when playing SRS, compared to ARS, where despite an exponentially greater amount of practice/training/direction/comfort/"skill", i have still yet to reach 1300 (got my first s12 this week though! soooooon!).

the same experience with the m-roll, which i've played no more than a dozen times with world, but still managed to complete, compared to the hundreds of classic m-rolls that i've failed failed failed failed failed.

i don't mean to say that it's not worth competing in World, or that i feel doing so is a waste of time, just that from what i can figure, if you want to take World seriously, you skip over a lot of the requisite skill to complete the modes and reach the top grades, and move right into time attack (where you'll have to fill in all of that requisite skill and experience in order to perform well). this is sort of contrary to what i think people really like about Ti, and TGM in general, and that is the feeling that a better grade really does mark a better game, with a linear progression that feels relevant. (the m-roll kind of fucks this up, sort of an unrelated minigame that for some reason validates or invalidates the real game, but i say that from a bitter, bad-at-the-m-roll place, and if i ever get better at it, maybe i'll start appreciating it.)

people often take world less seriously because the first 2 games don't offer it as an option, so your effort is sort of wasted if you're interested in playing those. there's also this kind of a feeling that you're almost "disrespecting" those games, which i think a lot of people (myself included) find to be very special. especially when compared to, say, Tetris Worlds. (*sezzy voice*: "go for a tetris.")

i like playing world sometimes, though, just like i sometimes really like playing TOJ, and i think i'll probably end up trying very hard to do well at some point.

and serious congrats on your MM/S13! beat kevin to the GM!

[[-Steve-]]

i don't agree with people disregarding Ti-World achievements as trivial, meaningless garbage mode, but, that being said, it is easier than Classic. or, rather it is easier to be rated with an equivalent grade (like s13). i think this has to do with the grading system really being balanced for ARS, and certain aspects of World breaking that system.

in my personal experience, which is pretty limited, i'm not sure if it's the move reset, the stances, or the kicks, but the 1100 and 1200 sections of shirase are significantly easier to "fake" my way through with poor placements and defensive nonsense when playing SRS, compared to ARS, where despite an exponentially greater amount of practice/training/direction/comfort/"skill", i have still yet to reach 1300 (got my first s12 this week though! soooooon!).

the same experience with the m-roll, which i've played no more than a dozen times with world, but still managed to complete, compared to the hundreds of classic m-rolls that i've failed failed failed failed failed.

i don't mean to say that it's not worth competing in World, or that i feel doing so is a waste of time, just that from what i can figure, if you want to take World seriously, you skip over a lot of the requisite skill to complete the modes and reach the top grades, and move right into time attack (where you'll have to fill in all of that requisite skill and experience in order to perform well). this is sort of contrary to what i think people really like about Ti, and TGM in general, and that is the feeling that a better grade really does mark a better game, with a linear progression that feels relevant. (the m-roll kind of fucks this up, sort of an unrelated minigame that for some reason validates or invalidates the real game, but i say that from a bitter, bad-at-the-m-roll place, and if i ever get better at it, maybe i'll start appreciating it.)

people also take world less seriously because the first 2 games don't offer it as an option, so your effort is sort of wasted if you're interested in playing those. there's also this kind of a feeling that you're almost "disrespecting" those games, which i think a lot of people (myself included) find to be very special. especially when compared to, say, Tetris Worlds. (*sezzy voice*: "go for a tetris.")

i like playing world sometimes, though, just like i sometimes really like playing TOJ, and i think i'll probably end up trying very hard to do well at some point.

and serious congrats on your MM/S13! beat kevin to the GM!

Wow, mat, you have made me as happy as I've ever been visiting the tetrisconcept forums. Thank you! And I mean that honestly. :)

Everything you have wrote, I agree with one-hundred percent. And quite honestly, I have not come to appreciate why ARS is so fantastic, up until recently. In a nutshell: ARS allows for a much greater speed and more impressive plays than at a master level, compared to SRS (but I'm sure you don't need me telling you this, you're the expert.) :p

This whole time I've been sitting here making a fool of myself by saying "I don't compete" or "I prefer SRS" because I played for leisure. But even only reaching an S5 in classic shirase, it's design is beautiful.

But anyhow, believe me when I say I didn't mean to piss anyone off by "disrespecting" prior TGM games/modes. :(

Anyhow, thank you for the congrats, and congrats to you as well on your S13 SRS/S12 ARS. That, sir, is very impressive! ^_^

[Qlex]

One thing that makes world really hard to me is trying to make simple moves. Most of the time the blocks appear on their flat side, and I feel like having to do a triple tap right or left to make a block go where I want it to go. That's the same disturbing feeling I have when I'm playing ARS at zero speeds. Fortunately for both, the timer gets lenient when it comes to this.

ARS is different, because of all the restrictions you can be sure there's a very very simple move that demands DAS+rotate and that's all. Of course, there are triple rotation inputs, but after a bit of practising it looks normal and can be performed really fast. ARS is a good example of "Rigor sets you free".

No disrespect at all though, I feel that people who can manage to play fluently on SRS are godlike poets, because I don't think there are simple and fast moves this often. When I see people breaking the ARS torikan with the SRS input, I applause.

[[-Steve-]]

One thing that makes world really hard to me is trying to make simple moves. Most of the time the blocks appear on their flat side, and I feel like having to do a triple tap right or left to make a block go where I want it to go. That's the same disturbing feeling I have when I'm playing ARS at zero speeds. Fortunately for both, the timer gets lenient when it comes to this.

ARS is different, because of all the restrictions you can be sure there's a very very simple move that demands DAS+rotate and that's all. Of course, there are triple rotation inputs, but after a bit of practising it looks normal and can be performed really fast. ARS is a good example of "Rigor sets you free".

No disrespect at all though, I feel that people who can manage to play fluently on SRS are godlike poets, because I don't think there are simple and fast moves this often. When I see people breaking the ARS torikan with the SRS input, I applause.

I hear you on that note. It's funny, as ARS is upside down for me, as SRS is probably the same to you. But that shows the different styles of stacking when comparing the two rotation systems.

A good example: (ARS left image, SRS right)

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/attachment.html?attachmentid=90&stc=1&d=1310080251

Now, I'm not too good of an ARS player so I might be wrong, but if I got a J piece, I'd probably place it so, in order to keep the 5th column the highest. In SRS, I'd place it far to the left, no need for any rotation. Obviously, both pieces can be placed anywhere wherever, but I'm just explaining, at least in my use, how I change depending on the rotation system.

But I hear you out when trying to apply simple moves with SRS. You'd never have the time to double rotate and DAS a piece into position on ARS, where SRS makes that possible. This is only one example on why I've (finally) come to see ARS as a great rotation system... it's fast, just takes some getting used too and a change in stacking style. :p

And those triple rotates are insane! The masters make it look easy gliding over the pieces during a triple rotate.

Sadly, however, my newest shirase record (5:59.20, my first sub-6 game! :D) does not break the ARS torikan, which is disappointing for me. :\ I think I break it at 2:32, I'll have to check. I'll be updating this thread with my newer record after I stop being lazy, take the screenshot and upload the video. :D

Thank you Qlex! :) And good luck to you in your shirase games!

[Rosti LFC]

If it was Ti, with hold and floorkicks and whatnot, I'd go for the right hand placement, even if it was ARS. Hell, I'd probably make that placement on TAP as well. Keeping the fifth column high is important, but only because it gives you full accessibility of your stack. If your stack is pretty much entirely smooth and flat then you've got full accessibility anyway and the fifth column ceases to be quite as important. That and the left hand placement gives you far more trouble at high speeds when you can potentially miss IRS inputs.

[[-Steve-]]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/3773/gamefullscreen201107092.png

My first ever sub-6 minute game! Woohoo! Only thing left is World GM before really starting my ARS training. :) Ironically, the game's leader-board says the game was completed at 5:59.10, while the game itself was completed at 5:59.20. I do have a video of me playing, you can request the video link via PM or IRC. ^_^

Achieved on July 7, 2011.

[Key]

Congratulations, Steve! I look forward seeing your new achievements :)

[[-Steve-]]

Congratulations, Steve! I look forward seeing your new achievements :)

Thanks Key! And to you as well! Hopefully I'll be able to show you guys some impressive ARS Shirase videos when I get a bit better at it. :)

[nahucirujano]

This is the first time I post here ;)
Grade: S8
Level: 899
Time: 03:53:18
Date: 07/10/11
Medals: Silver ST and SK.
http://www.uploadimage.com.ar/images/45099047242120678123.jpg
Regards...

Nahu

[Kitaru]

;44761']A good example: (ARS left image, SRS right)

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/attachment.html?attachmentid=90&stc=1&d=1310080251

Now, I'm not too good of an ARS player so I might be wrong, but if I got a J piece, I'd probably place it so, in order to keep the 5th column the highest. In SRS, I'd place it far to the left, no need for any rotation. Obviously, both pieces can be placed anywhere wherever, but I'm just explaining, at least in my use, how I change depending on the rotation system.I would always take the flat placement at the left wall, regardless of game or rotation system. Good stack structure is a lot more important than a mobility option when you dont't need it. Every piece has a reasonable option off this stack, with the worst case being an overhang on S.

[nahucirujano]

New Personal Record:
Grade: S11
Level: 1123
Time: 05:22:03
Date: 07/11/11
Medals: Gold ST and Silver SK.
http://www.imagengratis.org/images/tgm31123.jpg
Regards...

Nahu

[Amnesia]

Aie, it hurts..:|

I thought you could not beat me here, because of the input lag of this game, and the other differences, I was sure that a SHIRASE 1090 was superior than a sudden ti 1210.

[nahucirujano]

Aie, it hurts..:|

I thought you could not beat me here, because of the input lag of this game, and the other differences, I was sure that a SHIRASE 1090 was superior than a sudden ti 1210.
It's true, that damn input lag it bothers me so much...
You know, I has seen Shirase videos a lot of times, and I was surprised about the speed above 1100 and 1200, comparing with Sudden Ti's... I could swear that Sudden Ti was faster, but now that I reach those levels I can say that the speed is almost the same (at least for me), except for the input lag of course...

Ahhhhh! Damn 1200, it's extremely faster for me... I has practiced 1200 in Sudden Ti and until now I just could reach 1300 (from 1200) once... It is insanely fast...

[nahucirujano]

Yes!!!!!!!!!
I'm Class S12 at Shirase too, just like at Sudden Ti!!!

New Personal Record!
Grade: S12
Level: 1264
Time: 05:53:75
Date: 07/12/11
Medals: Gold ST and Gold SK.
http://www.uploadimage.com.ar/images/10143314912814735679.jpg
Regards!!!
Keep Stacking!!!

Nahu

[Amnesia]

I hate you.:mad:

[Zircean]

GET DAT S13 NAHU

[Key]

You're almost there!!

[KevinDDR]

Oh no. S12 is nowhere near S13. Trust me. It took me over a year to go from S12 to S13.

[Key]

Oh man ..... then best of luck for S13, you can get it! xD

[clincher]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032635/tishirase.png
3/9/11

[Rosti LFC]

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/9296/20110710001.jpg

713 @ 3:22:16

On a proper TypeX too :v

[KevinDDR]

I never bothered taking a picture of my Shirase scores because I figured I'd hit 1300 sooner or later. Anyway, I just decided today to load up the backed up save data from my cabinet on my PC here in England so I could update my scores.

http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/280820_10150316018351810_595986809_9424172_3846553 _o.jpg

[Edo]

Not bad Kevin; are you still trying for S13, or are you taking a break from it?

Also, there's a slight problem: the times displayed on the Ranking and Todays Ranking are the Mastering Times, i.e. when the player crosses the section barrier, but I think most of the scores on our leaderboard are Total Time. I'll have to go back and see if I can sort things out so that they're consistent.

[steadshot]

http://i.imgur.com/RUUgF.jpg

[rednefed]

Classic: 1210. S12 at 5:34:65

[Qlex]

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/7633/snapshot20110724192037.jpg

It was better than what I had foreseen at this point, but no S5 whatsoever.

12--Qlex-------------------S4 - 405 @ 02:55:41 - 13/07/11

[TWF]

859 S8 3:40:41, ST SK

[TWF]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1179275/IMG_0593.JPG
S10 1040 4:44:35 silver ST silver SK
Yes!

[steadshot]

The record I posted is 398, not 318 :p

Not that it changes anything, just stumbled over it.

[Taratang]

Putting a score down just to throw my hat into the Ti ring. I think I can do much better than this but making the adjustment from TAP is a little bumpy (misdrops stack up consecutively so fast!) but this my best from my first hour of shirase.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s255/Taratang/Shirase286.png

[Amnesia]

Wellcome back Taratang, show them what you can do.

[Taratang]

Thanks Amnesia, I'll try hard to improve.

[[-Steve-]]

World

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/attachment.html?attachmentid=103&stc=1&d=1315369744

Orange S13 @ 5:42.66
Silver ST
Gold SK
Achieved on Sept. 4, '11.

Video is on my Facebook, add me!

[Amnesia]

My current best with WORLD :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeLm1cE7qjM

[Kasumi]

World 611
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/1522/shirase611world.png
Classic 500
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7309/shirase500classic.png

*grumble, grumble* World is so much easier.

[[-Steve-]]

S13 Orange line @ 5:29.63

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/attachment.html?attachmentid=119&stc=1&d=1318744041

Played on Oct. 14, 2011

[Kitaru]

http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/391117_10150379265615675_515950674_8296195_1400517 070_n.jpg
Close enough.

[m.kevin]

http://s3.noelshack.com/uploads/images/3417508244997_firstevertorikan.jpg
My first S5 ever, played today.

[K]

:v it's the second time i break 1K...
http://jagorochi.free.fr/images/1215.PNG:v:v:v

[cyberguile]

damn, You got the awesome decoration :)

[K]

i just put hexadecimal values somewhere in the memory to max out that shit..:sneaky:

[Kitaru]

Oh, congrats! Now we know for certain that it's only a matter of time before we see your counter-attack in Ti Master. :D

[K]

it's just so fucking good ! Ancestor block is the shit !

[cyberguile]

i just put hexadecimal values somewhere in the memory to max out that shit..:sneaky:

tricheur :p

[m.kevin]

The decoration is useless.

BUT ITZ S0 KW3L

[Wojtek]

first time i reached level 1000 in shirese world, yay.
S10 1088 05:30:40 medals:gold-none-none-bronze
i totally panicked when monochrome blocks showed up.

[cyberguile]

My first S5 :)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/cyberguile/SHIRASE500.jpg

No hold (I'm still unable to use it in shirase, just starting to use it in sub-20g master mode sections), no manlocking after 300 and not many tetrises.
Should be able to break the torikan this year :biggrin:

[K]

c'mon it's not that harsh!:v

[Amnesia]

No hold (I'm still unable to use it in shirase, just starting to use it in sub-20g master mode sections), no manlocking after 300 and not many tetrises.
Should be able to break the torikan this year


My first 500 was 2:48 or 2:52 I am not sure...
I think it is a matter of 3 months if you often try it.

[cyberguile]

since I did almost no tetrises (maybe one or two), 2:50 is a good time for me: it's faster that what I can do on death 500~999
Hoping to break the torikan soon without using Hold and get back to death mode after :)

PS: yesterday, I opened my hrap to change a button.
what a surprise !!! realising I've been playing for two years with a 8-way sanwa stick :oops::oops::oops:
expect some more progresses from me very soon B)