CONTEST N°1 : 0G player class (Round 2)

[Amnesia]

This contest is the first part of a serie of 3 contests which have been defined in this precedent thread :

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1167&start=0 (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1167&start=0)

Main rules for this contest :

-T-spins off
-Combo garbage off
-Back To Back on

(These three features can be used, providing both players agree to use them before the match is played.)

-No gravity
-ARE and Line Clear delay both set to 0 frames
-DAS customisable by player.
-HOLD enable.
-3 previews.
-% of garbage changing position : 90% ? Random ? TGM style ? (As you want..)

Match rules :

- Turn 1 & 2 : first to 15 wins
- Quarter & Semi finals : first to 20 wins
- Final : first to 30 wins

Please report the scores in this thread..If there is any problem of setting, cheating, etc...the match could be replayed..I am not too much strict on that..

You can choose the way you want to find your opponent ! PM, MSN, AIM, MIRC, etc....
In the case of a too long delay, the last missing players will be declared loser.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8038/2ndturnyr4.jpg

http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/3308/2ndturnbattlesfg1.jpg

[Rosti LFC]

Looks good. Old-school Champions League format.

[Burbruee]

Looking forward to it. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Ai]

Finally! :D

I like the rules. No T-spins and adjustable DAS! <3

So we're using BlockBox. Time to start practicing seriously then. Not that I really expect to survive the first round. But at the very least I want to prevent a 15-0 humiliation. ^^

[M.Bison]

Sounds great.
But I would prefer if we started when blockbox has 8-way input. Which I am hopping is not far off.

- Jono

[Amnesia]

Don't worry jono, you will pass the 1st turn..Don't worry.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

I already made the groups, this is a real nightmare for some players, and a cool and quiet turn for other..
But I followed the method initialy set 3 months ago, I will publish it in detail..No need to check if I cheated or not, seeing my group, I think every body will trust me..

I just wait for 3 last little things now :

- the 8 way input
- the garbage method
- a little simulation between me and deniax to check if everything work correctely..

[Amnesia]

...

[Rosti LFC]

So pending a few other placements (and the likes of Jono), Blink vs Digital is a good possibility for the final...

[Amnesia]

Whatever happens about the last detail : garbages, 8 way, etc...Which are not really important, the contest will start next Monday !!!!
Actually, as soon as I will return to my job and get internet to edit and publish the groups composition..
No problem for me if I can't play with internet properly, with my joystick, I have less than 0,00000000000001% of chance to pass the first turn..

So be ready !!!!!!!!!! and please, try to discuss to find an arrangement about the garbages..

[caffeine]

What about the garbage?

[Rosti LFC]

No problem for me if I can't play with internet properly, with my joystick, I have less than 0,00000000000001% of chance to pass the first turn.

Caffeine and Jono in your group Amnesia?

[M.Bison]

Whatever happens about the last detail : garbages, 8 way, etc...Which are not really important, the contest will start next Monday !!!!
Actually, as soon as I will return to my job and get internet to edit and publish the groups composition..
No problem for me if I can't play with internet properly, with my joystick, I have less than 0,00000000000001% of chance to pass the first turn..

So be ready !!!!!!!!!! and please, try to discuss to find an arrangement about the garbages..
8-way movements are not important??? Now I know the Tetris-wolrd has officially gone crazy http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif .
Premature arthritis is very important for me (to avoid that is).

- Jono

P.S
Please note I was only half serious half joking.

[jujube]

i'm with Jono, except the part about half joking! arthritis is no laughing matter! and 8-way movement is faster (on keyboard).

[DIGITAL]

i'm with Jono, except the part about half joking! arthritis is no laughing matter! and 8-way movement is faster (on keyboard).
Yeah, it catches me off guard at times when I expect the piece to have moved or to have moved a certain distance.

[Amnesia]

Ok ok..We won't start before the 8 way input works properly...Sorry Deniax, you will have some additional job..I will feel bad if I beat jono because he suffer from that..
For the garbage, I personnaly don't care, try to arrange and negociate it with your opponent...
For example, if c_t fight with Rosti, they can play alternaly between TGM and random garbages..

Normaly we arrive at the date I had fixed for the end of this round, but only 9 of the 24 matches has been done..
So I will let it run for the holidays of the end year.

[Blink]

Ok ok..We won't start before the 8 way input works properly...Sorry Deniax, you will have some additional job..I will feel bad if I beat jono because he suffer from that..
For the garbage, I personnaly don't care, try to arrange and negociate it with your opponent...
For example, if c_t fight with Rosti, they can play alternaly between TGM and random garbages..

should just have the same type of garbage for every round of the tournament, what would happen if 2 players don't agree?

[Amnesia]

Amnesia wrote:Ok ok..We won't start before the 8 way input works properly...Sorry Deniax, you will have some additional job..I will feel bad if I beat jono because he suffer from that..
For the garbage, I personnaly don't care, try to arrange and negociate it with your opponent...
For example, if c_t fight with Rosti, they can play alternaly between TGM and random garbages..



should just have the same type of garbage for every round of the tournament, what would happen if 2 players don't agree?

I was exactely giving an example for this kind of situation :

For example, if c_t fight with Rosti, they can play alternaly between TGM and random garbages..

[Deniax]

Sorry Deniax, you will have some additional job..I will feel bad if I beat jono because he suffer from that..Any specific things I need to know about 8 way input? When I press down+left at the same time, the next frame the piece moves 1 cell to the left and one cell to the bottom?

[jujube]

deniax: 8-way simply allows for a piece to be dropped or locked while left or right is being held. this is so the next piece can start moving the same direction as soon as it spawns, which is good if you want to place two or more pieces on the same side of the well. there shouldn't necessarily be an initial shift for the next piece. as far as initial shift goes, it should be controlled by whatever initial behavior you're intending, as something independent from 8-way on/off.

with 8-way on, the rate at which a piece shifts or drops should just depend on the DAS and gravity settings.

[KevinDDR]

I'm really excited!

Now is the time to practice Blockbox 40line...

[Zaphod77]

true 8-way would let you soft drop diagonally.

I think the input logic should work like this for movement keys.

key 1 is pressed.
key 2 pressed while key 1 is down. key 1's input is cancelled, and key2's input is used.
key 2 is released. key 2 input is considered off, and key 1 input is considered on.
key 2 is pressed again. same thing happens.
key 3 is pressed, with key1 and key 2 still down. key 1 is considered permanantly released from this point. key 3 is obeyed. if it is released with key2 own, key 2 will be obeyed again.

which movement key is used is irrelevant.

Other possibilities.

L/R have priority over u/d. (tgM1 does this in inC)
U/D have priority over L/R (this seems to be what the previous poster was describing)
first key pressed has priority

I described "last key pressed has priority"

[Deniax]

Hmm, so there are more ways possible to interpret 8-way input..
I really don't know much about 8 way input , so you guys need to decide how 8-way should work, I will just make it http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

Please bare in mind that while it's quite easy to implement (1-2 days) it needs to be tested before the first contest starts because it could not work right, or worse, it could break the 4-way input.

[tepples]

I think the input logic should work like this for movement keys.

key 1 is pressed.
key 2 pressed while key 1 is down. key 1's input is cancelled, and key2's input is used.
key 2 is released. key 2 input is considered off, and key 1 input is considered on.
A rule like that might cause misdrops: Turn on SRS handling of the up key (called "hard drop" or "sonic lock"). Press your 8-way joystick or directional pad up. Now key1 is up, and the filtered input is "up". A piece drops and locks into place. Roll to up+right. Now key1 is up and key2 is right, and the filtered input is "right". Roll to up again. Now key1 is up, and the filtered input is "up". Another hard drop.I had this problem in Lockjaw 0.11 through 0.12 and changed it to give the first key priority in 0.13.

[muf]

A rule like that might cause misdrops: Turn on SRS handling of the up key (called "hard drop" or "sonic lock"). Press your 8-way joystick or directional pad up. Now key1 is up, and the filtered input is "up". A piece drops and locks into place. Roll to up+right. Now key1 is up and key2 is right, and the filtered input is "right". Roll to up again. Now key1 is up, and the filtered input is "up". Another hard drop.
Which is exactly what should happen. Why would you roll the stick to the up position if you don't intend to hard drop?

[jujube]

true 8-way would let you soft drop diagonally.

I think the input logic should work like this for movement keys.

key 1 is pressed.
key 2 pressed while key 1 is down. key 1's input is cancelled, and key2's input is used.
key 2 is released. key 2 input is considered off, and key 1 input is considered on.
ideally, if key 2 isn't released until after the spawning of the next piece, key 1 should work when the new piece spawns. if you press left and down (lock), the current piece should lock, and the next piece should immediately start moving left when it spawns, before down is released. in other words, as long as you're pressing left, pieces are always trying to go left, regardless of whatever other keys you're pressing. there should be protection against double locking or double hard dropping which requires that down be released and pressed again to lock the next piece. but if i understand TAP/TGM3 behavior correctly, firm drop should act immediately on the spawning piece. IMO if (firm drop)+left are continually pressed with 8-way on, a piece should spawn at 20G in the center, then move left, lock delay expires, the next piece spawns at 20G center, etc.

Other possibilities.

L/R have priority over u/d. (tgM1 does this in inC)
that option sounds like it wouldn't allow locking or dropping while left/right is held. a little too close to standard 4-way.

Press your 8-way joystick or directional pad up.
hopefully Blockbox will allow for 8-way to be turned off for the benefit of joystick and gamepad users, unless you feel it's advantageous to have it on. deniax made firm drop available for each rotation system, which doesn't allow diagonal l+d or r+d movement anyway (diagonal movement that joystick/gamepad users may want when soft drop is present).

edit: if left and right are both held, then i think the last key pressed should take effect, and if released then the other key acts. if both are pressed in the same frame...i don't know, you should hear an annoying beep.

[tepples]

A rule like that might cause misdrops: Turn on SRS handling of the up key (called "hard drop" or "sonic lock"). Press your 8-way joystick or directional pad up. Now key1 is up, and the filtered input is "up". A piece drops and locks into place. Roll to up+right. Now key1 is up and key2 is right, and the filtered input is "right". Roll to up again. Now key1 is up, and the filtered input is "up". Another hard drop.
Which is exactly what should happen. Why would you roll the stick to the up position if you don't intend to hard drop?
I rolled it up to hard drop one piece. The roll to up+right and back was noise, and the point of diagonal filtering is to deduce the most likely intended gesture from the noisy input. Perhaps your algorithm would work with a relatively long ARE, but with the <=3-frame ARE in flagship Guideline games such as Tetris Worlds and Tetris DS, you would end up with a lot of double hard drops.

if left and right are both held, then i think the last key pressed should take effect, and if released then the other key acts. if both are pressed in the same frame...i don't know, you should hear an annoying beep.
An annoying beep from the game, or from the keyboard controller? I don't hear the latter when I play StepMania and do a left+right jump.

[jujube]

if left and right are both held, then i think the last key pressed should take effect, and if released then the other key acts. if both are pressed in the same frame...i don't know, you should hear an annoying beep.
An annoying beep from the game, or from the keyboard controller? I don't hear the latter when I play StepMania and do a left+right jump.
from the game i suppose http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif the keyboard/keyboard controller should be able to handle any 2 simultaneous inputs.

better yet, nothing should happen, which is already the case in Blockbox (which may be due to 8-way input not working).

[Zaphod77]

For joystick, you want the first input to get priority.

but for keyboard, the last input gettig priority is better overall, i think.

[Kitaru]

For joystick, you want the first input to get priority.

but for keyboard, the last input gettig priority is better overall, i think.
Agreed here. When you roll your fingers about the keys, you have to worry about whether or not your fingers are coming off the keys in time for all of them to register properly. When I roll around Up->Left->Down, I want the piece to firm drop, shift, and lock on each key press; I don't want to continue shifting left once my finger has landed on the Down key.

[Amnesia]

AND THIS IS SPARTA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

First, I take the reference book I choosen 3 months ago :

http://books.google.com/books?id=tY6ctA ... 4A#PPP1,M1

then, I start from the "PREFACE", I only consider body texts, no title or photo comment..I put the first letter of each page on each player, respecting the order of registering :

-1 : Amnesia           w 
-2 : Rosti             i 
-3 : jujube            t 
-4 : blink             a 
-5 : mufunyo           u 
-6 : caffeine          w 
-7 : kitaru            c 
-8 : PetitPrince       i 
-9 : Meroigo           e 
10 : zaphod            i 
11 : jan               m 
12 : matt_hatter       t 
13 : Red Star          t 
14 : Shoryu            c 
15 : Baxter            t 
16 : Gangsta_Fish      t 
17 : Burbruee          t 
18 : Ai                t 
19 : colour_thief      o 
20 : Kevin Birrell     s 
21 : Kotetsu           a 
22 : DeHackEd          t 
23 : Deniax            t 
24 : M. Bison          w 
25 : DIGITAL           t 

And finaly, a little sorting gives this :

blink             a
Kotetsu           a
kitaru            c
Shoryu            c

Meroigo           e
PetitPrince       i
Rosti             i

zaphod            i
jan               m
colour_thief      o

Kevin Birrell     s
Ai                t
Baxter            t

Burbruee          t
DeHackEd          t
Deniax            t

DIGITAL           t
Gangsta_Fish      t
jujube            t

matt_hatter       t
Red Star          t
mufunyo           u

Amnesia           w
caffeine          w
M. Bison          w



Everybody can see how lucky I am, I feel almost bad to have some so weak opponents in my group..I will try to be gentlemen..

[Burbruee]

Everybody can see how lucky I am, I feel almost bad to have some so weak opponents in my group..I will try to be gentlemen..
Oh how I envy you to have such week opponents in your group. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

And just to make things clear, only the winner from each respective group goes on to the second round right?
Oh and I really liked your randomizing system, I might borrow it for some smaller tournaments on another forum.

[Amnesia]

And just to make things clear, only the winner from each respective group goes on to the second round right?
Oh and I really liked your randomizing system, I might borrow it for some smaller tournaments on another forum.

no, for each groups there is 2 winners..
The randomizing method has been proposed by caffeine, and that seems the only one way to randomly place the players in their groups..Except that everybody prepare and organize themself for registering in a several order, there is no way to know your opponents before the last guy registers..

[Rosti LFC]

No offence to PPrince or Meroigo, but I'm reasonably happy with my group http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

Also:
Caffeine and Jono in your group Amnesia?
Nostradamus ain't got nothin' on me.

Where are the pictures now for the full tournament structure, with the 2nd round (round is a better word than 'turn') groups and the finals tree?

[jujube]

good job with setting everything up Amnesia.

i'm just glad the players in my group are frequently on #arika. it shouldn't be a problem getting the matches in. i should be available in a few hours if DIGITAL or Gangsta_Fish can play then.

[KevinDDR]

I'm ready for matches whenever. Baxter or Ai, let me know!

Also, I'd just like to say that Blockbox really kicks ass. I was playing with Deniax and Kitaru during lunch today, and the game really feels solid!

[Ai]

I'm ready for matches whenever. Baxter or Ai, let me know!

Also, I'd just like to say that Blockbox really kicks ass. I was playing with Deniax and Kitaru during lunch today, and the game really feels solid!
I'll play you later this week if it's okay. I'll practice some more first. Haven't played ARS multiplayer games for a while. ^^

So many top players grouped together. Did you really play already Amnesia? Amyway good luck everyone!

[Deniax]

And here is the video from the first match played.
Sorry for the lack of sound and that not all matches were captured, I joined the game too late http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

Also, due to a snooper bug, it says "Deniax are you ready" , but it's _zaphod_ playing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19IHiA0JI8w

[Amnesia]

Thanks a lot to both of them for having opened the party.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[tepples]

Also, due to a snooper bug, it says "Deniax are you ready" , but it's _zaphod_ playing
Snooping as (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyM1UGD8sqM) usual, I see?

[KevinDDR]

Ai, Jan, and Blink snooped on the games between Baxter and myself.

I won, with a final result of 15-11. Really intense! Good games!

[Rosti LFC]

Rosti 15 - 3 Meroigo

There were some close games scattered in there. I really need to overstack less though.

[Meroigo]

I'm happy I even won those three games. Yay! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif Would've been more if i just had played some more Blockbox before. And it was the first game of Tetris I've had in many days. ;P

Too bad I got kicked out of the tournament in the first game. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif But dunno if I would've won against anyone else in this tournament.. Maybe Ai.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

I want a loosers bracket. XD

[Deniax]

Jujube vs Digital

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgwRk3yT3FE

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHhvMk8RID4

[Ai]

Thanks for the links deniax. Also could you change my avatar in the game with this image:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x314 ... nji_ai.gif (http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x314/kunanishi/kanji_ai.gif)

And congrats to all those who won and good luck everyone with the remaining games.

I'm happy I even won those three games. Yay! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif Would've been more if i just had played some more Blockbox before. And it was the first game of Tetris I've had in many days. ;P

Too bad I got kicked out of the tournament in the first game. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif But dunno if I would've won against anyone else in this tournament.. Maybe Ai.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

I want a loosers bracket. XD
I'll play you anytime you want. Just ask me. I wanted to play you a long time ago, but I don't like to bother people. Also we could organize a tournament for those who didn't get past the first round. ^^

Btw I think you still have a chance to go through to the next round if you beat PetitPrince. So it's not totally over yet.

[jujube]

Jujube vs Digital

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgwRk3yT3FE

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHhvMk8RID4

thanks Deniax. (part 1 is my favorite http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif )

[KevinDDR]

Sorry for skipping out on our match, Ai! I would have played, but my eyes are horribly dried out and it's quite painful to be honest. Can you play any time this week? I am available at 3pm on Monday and Wednesday.

[Rosti LFC]

Too bad I got kicked out of the tournament in the first game. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif But dunno if I would've won against anyone else in this tournament.. Maybe Ai.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif


If you beat PPrince you're through to the second round, providing I don't lose to him.

Won't be going past the second round though. Both groups which we'd enter in the second round are going to be nasty.

[caffeine]

caffeine 15 - M. BISON 11

[Amnesia]

haa... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif M. Bison is less strong than you.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
I suppose that a score like that is not representative..Maybe it would have gone to a different issue an other day..
Anyway, we can still know the ranking of group 8.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

The tables are updated now..I decided to add a new player, Kiruat, I think it is the last time I accept that, I put him on the first group which had a free place, which means the group N°2..If this kind of contest occurs again in the future, we will be less flexible for the registrations..

[Jan]

Has the match of caffeine and jono been recorded?

[KevinDDR]

So...I agreed with Ai to play at 3pm PST on either Monday or Wednesday this week. I couldn't make it on Monday due to eye problems, and he hasn't shown up today...I am not sure what to do. Ai, if you still want to play the match let me know what times work for you! Sorry for not being able to make Monday, but I think eye problems are more pressing...

[Ai]

So...I agreed with Ai to play at 3pm PST on either Monday or Wednesday this week. I couldn't make it on Monday due to eye problems, and he hasn't shown up today...I am not sure what to do. Ai, if you still want to play the match let me know what times work for you! Sorry for not being able to make Monday, but I think eye problems are more pressing...
No problem about Monday! ^^ I can still play today if you're fast. Otherwise we'll have to agree on another date. Just pm or see if I'm still on the IRC channel.

[Blink]

match report - blink over kotetsu 15-0

[Amnesia]

HOLY COW !!! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

I would have bet a tighter confrontation..
I expected something like 15 - 8..

Damn, second great mistake for me..
But I would bet that kotetsu played this match without almost no practice..In the other side blink has practiced hard on this game I think.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

EDIT : Still no match done in G5 and G7..Hurry up.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[DIGITAL]

I would have bet a tighter confrontation..
I expected something like 15 - 8..

Damn, second great mistake for me..
I've said this in IRC but I'll just say it again on here. It would not shock me in the least if blink won the final with a 30-0. What WOULD shock me is if the match came out to 30-1+. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

No offense to anyone who faces blink. You may be good but he is god (yeah, not a typo there). But with that said, props to anyone who does manage to snatch a game from blink. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Kitaru]

I can recall a certain Tetris Concept TOJ 1v1 room session where Blink had something like 60+ wins and all of 2 losses, haha.

[Amnesia]

I've said this in IRC but I'll just say it again on here. It would not shock me in the least if blink won the final with a 30-0. What WOULD shock me is if the match came out to 30-1+.

No offense to anyone who faces blink. You may be good but he is god (yeah, not a typo there). But with that said, props to anyone who does manage to snatch a game from blink.

So that is reason you want give up..

Ridiculous..Do you think that everybody will give up the contest 3 because you will destroy us at SHIRASE 300 ??
http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif

Anybody else ?? After digital and G fish ?

If 2 other people give up I will close this contest.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif

I insist to add that these contests are just made for fun..There is no price, no execution..Even if everybody know that the 3 winners for the contests 1, 2 and 3 will be blink, me, and Digital, there is no reason to avoid participation..

[Blink]

.In the other side blink has practiced hard on this game I think.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif


Blockbox with random garbage is basically tetrinet but with SRS rotation. I've played tetrinet for years when it was up, so I sort of have an unfair advantage over everyone else in the tournament #1.

[DIGITAL]

So that is reason you want give up..
Please let us not get into this... I'll just say that that is NOT the reason. I'm not giving up. I'm considering to withdraw for personal reasons.

Even if everybody know that the 3 winners for the contests 1, 2 and 3 will be blink, me, and Digital, there is no reason to avoid participation..
The only person that is guaranteed to win is blink and that's because he is god...

[Rosti LFC]

Blockbox with random garbage is basically tetrinet but with SRS rotation. I've played tetrinet for years when it was up, so I sort of have an unfair advantage over everyone else in the tournament #1.

I think that's a bit of a silly comparison. The only similarity to TNET proper is the fact that it's got the random garbage. Which is optional.
SRS/ARS, standard entry orientations, 10-wide well...

[kotetsu213]

kotetsu213 defeats Kitaru 15-6

[Blink]

Blockbox with random garbage is basically tetrinet but with SRS rotation. I've played tetrinet for years when it was up, so I sort of have an unfair advantage over everyone else in the tournament #1.

I think that's a bit of a silly comparison. The only similarity to TNET proper is the fact that it's got the random garbage. Which is optional.
SRS/ARS, standard entry orientations, 10-wide well...

good point, very true. there are alot of differences between the 2 games. let me change what i said before and say that i have an advantage because i am more accustomed to playing with random garbage from my experience on tetrinet.

[colour_thief]

colour_thief 15-7 Jan

[PetitPrince]

Rosti_LFC 14 - 1 PetitPrince

[Rosti LFC]

Rosti LFC 15 - 1 Petitprince

Starting to find my form at last. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Kiruat, if you could name a time or place to arrange our match, I'd be grateful.

[Ai]

Good games everyone.

I hope I can play both my games this weekend. I'll be available later today and the whole day tomorrow. Just let me know something over here or on the IRC. I only need about 30 minutes to prepare for the games before actual play. ^^

[caffeine]

So when can we play amnesia? Did you get your interwebs back?

[KevinDDR]

Alright...I played my match against Ai, but the game froze at 13-5. Blockbox-D3D refuses to load now, and just refreshes the page every time it tries to load the game. Bug? Maybe. Either way, I do intend to finish the match, so Ai and I will find another time to finish when the D3D blockbox works again.

[Ai]

Won the first 2 games and started misdropping all over the place for some reason (probably got overexcited). But still he's the faster player and better at clearing garbage.

This means I'm as good as out of the tournament barring a miracle turnaround. Anyway I'm looking forward to finish the game and get a little closer. ^^

[Deniax]

Movies of Rosti vs Petitprince are here (somehow Youtube decoded the movies wrong, so the first 40 seconds show garbled footage..)

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWeQ0ULVYow

Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3thWMv1nVl8

[Kiruat]

I give up all my match until the game become playable with poor computers like my computer wich sucks so rosti you win... congrats.

-Kiruat

[Baxter]

Baxter - Ai, 15 - 7

It was pretty exiting, especially at the start it was very close.

[Ai]

I was playing decently until 5-5 after which Baxter started playing better.

I'm officially out of the tournament. Finishing the game against KevinDDR is merely a formality now. It was a nice experience. I pushed myself the last few weeks for the tournament and improved my speed a little. I feel a better player. But still a long way to go.

Good luck for those still in the tournament. I'm looking forward to the next event. ^^

[Amnesia]

The only person that is guaranteed to win is blink and that's because he is god...

I certainly won't never call somebody "God" who is unable to manage a Tetris game with the ARS system..
If we could quantify and add the SRS and ARS Skill, you as me digital would be far over blink..

Kan ? Yes, maybe him, he is a god..Because he can complete a TI Gm rank in both ARS and SRS, with hold, no hold..


Merci pour ta participation et ton bon esprit Ai ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[DIGITAL]

The only person that is guaranteed to win is blink and that's because he is god...

I certainly won't never call somebody "God" who is unable to manage a Tetris game with the ARS system..
If we could quantify and add the SRS and ARS Skill, you as me digital would be far over blink..

Kan ? Yes, maybe him, he is a god..Because he can complete a TI Gm rank in both ARS and SRS, with hold, no hold..


Merci pour ta participation et ton bon esprit Ai ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
I think you're totally misunderstanding me in this regard by taking my words too literally. The point I'm trying to make is that blink is a world class multiplayer SRS player. He is strong enough to compete and even defeat the most prolific SRS top player in Japan (who has been undefeated in a match afaik). Hell, even before SRS was properly conceptualized and defined, blink was a monster at multiplayer on TNet. I'm sure there are people here who can give testimony to that.

I'm not talking about being well-rounded here in the least. If I were, Jin8 would certainly be at the top of the heap no doubt about that. Even though he's not the best in every area, he's certainly freaking strong in all of them.

[Amnesia]

Am I boring ? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[kotetsu213]

No, you're just missing the whole point.

Blink will win this contest. It was decided before it even began.

Whether or not he's good in death/shirase/etc doesn't apply to this contest, because this tests a particular set of skills, a set which Blink dominates in.

That doesn't say anything about the other contests (though at this point I forgot what they were.)

[colour_thief]

because this tests a particular set of skills, a set which Blink dominates in.

Blink is definitely powerful, probably the best 0G random garbage VS player on TC, but to stop fellating him for a moment this contest in particular would benefit from DAS finesse which I believe is not a strong point of his.

[caffeine]

Yeah really. Blink's godly, I'm the first one to admit that, but he's not Michael Phelps. If samaf can beat him, I wouldn't say he has this tournament in the bag.

[kotetsu213]

So is samaf in the tournament?

[caffeine]

No, but the fact that someone can beat him means he's not unbeatable.

[colour_thief]

His point was that Blink's not invincible. And mine was that caffeine and jono have clocked in waaaaay more hours with fast DAS, so don't write them off. It's ok having favourites and whatnot, but player worship kind of creeps me out.

[muf]

Considering this game has 8 frame DAS (Shirase section 1) for multiplayer games, DAS finesse can be crucial in deciding who wins. It could be a tight call between the strong players like caffeine, jono, Digital and Blink. Also, don't forget that T-spins have no bonus, so a lot of the guideline versus strategy doesn't apply.

[DIGITAL]

but player worship kind of creeps me out.
That's it. I'm taking a crusade out on you in the name of blink...

[Blink]

Digi thanks for defending me haha, trust me I respect your gameplay just as much.

But the truth is everybody is beatable including me, and as much as I'd like to fulfill Digital's 30-0 Finals, I must say that I know will lose a good amount of rounds before this tournament is over. That being said, I don't like the samaf example of me losing because we weren't on fair terms when he won, he had everything unlocked while I only had DAS 3 , line clear delay 3, soft drop 3 and piece preview 3. The extra DAS and soft drop really do make a big impact in overall speed. Once I unlocked everything I have beat him 4 straight times and he has yet to beat me. A better example would be Digitals victory over me on Tetris DS, as nobody had an unfair advantage.

As for the tournament, anything can happen so I definitely have nothing in the bag. Caffeine, Jono and Digital are very strong and I'm sure their fast DAS finesse skills will cause me tons of trouble. Any one of them might eliminate me from the tourney, and others that I haven't mentioned and never played before.

P.S. Shoryu drop by #arika so we can play our match.

[muf]

matt_hatter 15 - 2 mufunyo

I do want to note that at this point there is a DAS logic bug in Blockbox. When you DAS to the wall and shift one back, it will often shift two or three back, sometimes in the span of one frame. I've discussed this with Deniax and it appears to be fixed for 40 lines, but not for Versus. I decided to keep playing matt because either way it wouldn't make a tangible difference in the outcome of this round (he crushed me plain and simple), but I do want to point this out to Amnesia.

[Rosti LFC]

How often do you notice that muf? I've honestly never felt anything out of the ordinary while playing, and DAS'ing to the wall and then shifting back a space is something I do many times each game.

[Amnesia]

I do want to note that at this point there is a DAS logic bug in Blockbox. When you DAS to the wall and shift one back, it will often shift two or three back, sometimes in the span of one frame. I've discussed this with Deniax and it appears to be fixed for 40 lines, but not for Versus. I decided to keep playing matt because either way it wouldn't make a tangible difference in the outcome of this round (he crushed me plain and simple), but I do want to point this out to Amnesia.

Thank you for reporting that..
I am always a bit embarrased when somebody report a bug..The most important is that you already made deniax aware of that..

[muf]

How often do you notice that muf? I've honestly never felt anything out of the ordinary while playing, and DAS'ing to the wall and then shifting back a space is something I do many times each game.
The problem is somehow less severe with 8way input turned on.

[Amnesia]

P.S. Shoryu drop by #arika so we can play our match.

I don't understand this sentence.

[tepples]

P.S. Shoryu drop by #arika so we can play our match.
I don't understand this sentence.
"P.S." is postscript (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postscript)
"drop by" is visit (http://esl.about.com/library/glossary/bldef_374.htm)
"#arika" is a channel on some IRC network
"Shoryu" appears to be someone's screen name

Does that clear anything up?

[Amnesia]

thx tepples, I am not that stupid.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
It was only the word "drop" which made me confused..I had understand by "drop" that shoryu wanted to give up and that he had anounced it on ARIKA..

[Amnesia]

Balrog, caffeine, I should be available and...~ready http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif , next sunday and monday.
I should have friday (night) and saturday to practice in my family home (with internet and my joystick !!!)

[colour_thief]

(with internet and my joystick !!!)

Have you bought a real joystick yet? You've got a job now, there's no excuse! Do it before they are sold out. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Amnesia]

First, my paid for this month, and a little part of the next one, are totaly absorbed by the cost of my installation..Payment for the agence, caution payment, first month rent..
Then my Lille-Bordeaux trip for the next weekend costed me $ 240..
I also bought Zelda TP on GC for $ 75..
I am really sorry but that won't be possible for these days..

but don't worry, my current stick still works very well for the contest..

[Deniax]

Deniax - DeHackEd: 5 - 15
DeHackEd's first time with non-TGM settings and after a slow start, the beast was set free and he won

GG!

[Amnesia]

ho ho..Honestly I was hesitating between you two..

Now I can have a complete model of the next round.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[muf]

(with internet and my joystick !!!)

Have you bought a real joystick yet? You've got a job now, there's no excuse! Do it before they are sold out. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif
He could go the unique route and get a custom stick, or a modded stick with a custom faceplate. I think it would fit Amnesia better than just any run of the mill stick http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[colour_thief]

(with internet and my joystick !!!)

Have you bought a real joystick yet? You've got a job now, there's no excuse! Do it before they are sold out. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif
He could go the unique route and get a custom stick, or a modded stick with a custom faceplate. I think it would fit Amnesia better than just any run of the mill stick http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

That works too. My point is rather that he should upgrade from his current stick ASAP because it constantly breaks and can't withstand the punishment of ordinary play.

[PetitPrince]

PetitPrince 15 - 6 Meroigo

[Meroigo]

First ten games or so were very tight; he won, i won, he won, etc, then I don't know what happened. ;D But it was fun. ^^

[Amnesia]

Thank you everybody,

I need to make a comment about something, no need to restart the contest I think, but it seems that deniax planed to bring a modification on the preview displaying, some of TGM players have may suffered from that..
For my case I decided to wait a bit, I am not egoist and for the others who would complain for that, maybe they could replay their matches if their opponents agree. Digital in person also reported the problem, I am still not sure he would have lost 0 - 10 against blink (in amical battle), if he would have got his own potentiel has he got in sudden ti when he reach 1200.

Anyway,deniax is talking about next friday for this upgrade, so I fix the end of the round 1 to this date :

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif Sunday 23th http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_idea.gif

At this day, the round 2 begin whatever happen..

Here the list of the missing players, or players who have not totaly confirmed their abandon :

Shoryu, Kiruat, burbruee, G - fish and Red Star

[Rosti LFC]

Here the list of the missing players, or players who have not totaly confirmed their abandon :

...Kiruat...

I give up all my match until the game become playable with poor computers like my computer wich sucks so rosti you win... congrats.

-Kiruat

That isn't a total confirmation?

[muf]

Rosti, the game's Java. It's not going to run significantly better.

[Rosti LFC]

Rosti, the game's Java. It's not going to run significantly better.

I know. That's what I was implying.

I was questioning why Amnesia had said that Kiruat was one of the people who had not confirmed dropping out of the tournament.

[DIGITAL]

I was questioning why Amnesia had said that Kiruat was one of the people who had not confirmed dropping out of the tournament.
Oh don't worry, Amnesia's just being Amnesia. He concluded I was quitting when I was only pondering it on IRC. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Amnesia]

This evening caffeine (french evening/night)
I will be waiting for you..




http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif

[Amnesia]

caffeine VS Amnesia ---------> 15 - 0

I believed until the end that I could win a match..
caffeine would lied if he would say that sometimes, it was not very close..
Even with a slitghly superior speed for the majority of the games, and a not too bad stacking, it seems impossible for me to beat him..
I still don't understand how he recovered sometimes, when he was about to die..

I don't expect to do better against jono, I will try again to avoid the 15 - 0.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

[Ai]

Well you still have the other 2 tournaments to redeem yourself Amnesia. ;) Please do post the video of the game if one is available!

@ KevinDDR:

Let me know when we can finish our game. Even though it's a formality let's get it over with asap.

First ten games or so were very tight; he won, i won, he won, etc, then I don't know what happened. ;D But it was fun. ^^
Same thing happened in my games. At first I win a few games or start evenly with my oppenent only to be completely blown away when they up their game. It's as if they need a few games to analyze the opponent or are just underestimating us. Problems is that I go full out from the start while they can speed up if necessary... ^^

[Blink]

Here the list of the missing players, or players who have not totaly confirmed their abandon :

Shoryu, Kiruat, burbruee, G - fish and Red Star

Gfish said hes out of the tournament a couple times over irc, could probably update the round 2 bracket with Digi and Jujube.

[muf]

So what happens when you've only played one of your two opponents due to the other being out of the tournament? I'd like to get a shot at redeeming my loss against matt_hatter by hopefully winning against someone else.

[Blink]

So what happens when you've only played one of your two opponents due to the other being out of the tournament? I'd like to get a shot at redeeming my loss against matt_hatter by hopefully winning against someone else.

if your group only has 3 players, and 1 dropped out, you'll move to 2nd round. You can redeem your loss there.

[Blink]

Match Report: Blink over shoryu 15-0

[Amnesia]

Perfect run blink ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
15 - 0
15 - 0
15 - 0

I saw timc saying a comment on MIrc about my battle with caffeine..
Is the video already release somewhere ?? I really need to understand..I still have in my mind the idea that I had beed disavantaged by some lag or something else..
I will keep that in mind until I can check in the video..Some of his recovering seem impossible..When I am at 1/3 and him at 3/4, and stacking faster than him, how is it possible that he recovers..

[colour_thief]

Some of his recovering seem impossible..When I am at 1/3 and him at 3/4, and stacking faster than him, how is it possible that he recovers..

Singles.

[Burbruee]

Shoryu, Kiruat, burbruee, G - fish and Red Star
Hi,
Deniax and I played our games the first or second weekend of the tournament, but I didn't report in because he misunderstood the rules and thought it was best of 15 games and not first to 15 wins.
In other words we either need to resume where we left off and play our last games or start over, it's up to him. ( I think it was 11-4 to me )
Perhaps the best would be to play from the beginning again since it was three weeks or so since we started.
After that I've been busy and when I haven't been busy he has not been in the game or IRC. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

I'll try to play my games this weekend, if Deniax and DeHackEd are available, OK? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[DIGITAL]

Is the video already release somewhere ??
Yes, but I haven't uploaded it to youtube yet as I have to make adjustments.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/g646e1

There's the link to the full video if you can't wait to see it. And if you want to upload it onto youtube yourself, go right ahead. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

And on another note, a lot of thanks goes out to muf, for providing the logo in the video. That color variation and its high resolution fit into my plans perfectly. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Oh, and Kasumi also helped out a great deal by playing a few rounds with me so I could record the announcer's victory phrases. I forgot to record the audio during the match and I just had to have those sounds. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[caffeine]

cool! very clever idea.

[Blink]

really nice Digi, makes the match so much more entertaining to watch.

[DIGITAL]

Haha, thanks guys. I was actually planning to make it even more glamorous with things like a flashy "Amnevia vs. caffeine" screen, more sfx in-game, and my personal favorite Amnesia blabbing out a putain audio clip in certain places. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif But...I think I'll save these things for maybe the finals if I get the chance to record. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[muf]

FYI, Red Star did not drop out. He is still in and willing to play his matches.

[Amnesia]

my personal favorite Amnesia blabbing out a putain audio clip in certain places

You are wrong, I was very quiet, peace and cool when I fought with caffeine..µ
Totaly relaxed, knowing the score in advance.

[DIGITAL]

You are wrong, I was very quiet, peace and cool when I fought with caffeine..µ
Totaly relaxed, knowing the score in advance.
That doesn't sound like an entertaining Amnesia. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Amnesia]

I'll try to play my games this weekend, if Deniax and DeHackEd are available, OK?

Thank you very much for reporting that !
I will let you play your matches..

Nobody is missing anymore now..
Ouf

[Deniax]

I'll try to play my games this weekend, if Deniax and DeHackEd are available, OK?
I'm available.

[Burbruee]

I'll try to play my games this weekend, if Deniax and DeHackEd are available, OK?
I'm available.
Good, looking forward to it. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Burbruee]

Burbruee 15 - 11 Deniax.

[Ai]

I finished my game with KevinDDR.

KevinDDR 15-5 Ai is the final score.

Good luck to those still in the tournament! ^^

[Amnesia]

jono ? Tomorow around 8pm (GMT + 1) ? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[muf]

RedStar - mufunyo
15 - 6

Really intense matches in the first half.

[Rosti LFC]

Why is Blink no longer filled in as being in GA? He's quite clearly won his group so far.

[Amnesia]

oups..I just forgot him Rosti.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

jono ? Tomorow around 8pm (GMT + 1) ?
Forget it jono, my joystick is strip off currently..

I could play you next weekend..Otherwise, I give up the match. Except if we are not the only remaining match..

[Amnesia]

There is only 1 player who has not yet played 1 match..
His name begins by "G" and finish by "fish".. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[Burbruee]

DeHackEd, I don't have time to sit in IRC much at the moment, but I will be notified if I receive a PM on these boards.
So if you want to play our game just drop me a PM and I'll be in the game as soon as I see your message.

[Amnesia]

jono - Amnesia --> 15 - 5

I won't extend myself on the subject, but it seems that jono suffered from some lags..
Maybe the score would have been different, more like 15 - 0 or 15 - 1..

I feel upset about that, I would like to do another game but it would be useless, jono would still win with or without lag..
So let me apologize for the trouble I made about that on blocbox's chat, but trust me, I don't like the idea of having stolen you 5 points thanks to your lags...

[Blink]

any news on when the next round is going to start? it's been over a month and the first round isnt even done yet.

[Amnesia]

I will remove the participation of Shoryu and G - fish very soon..
Say, if I have no news from them wednesday, I fire their name of the list.

These 2 mathces are critical :

-Red Star - matt_hatter
-Burbruee - DHE

I need a match, or an abandon.
I am too nice and sweet I think, I am not cruel enought to skip the first turn and start the second, without giving a last delay.
but I consider that more than 1 month is really enough now.

Thank you blink for the pressure... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Amnesia]

2nd ROUND... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

Let us start the serious things now..

Still 15 points winning matches.

the limit of this round is 1 month MAXIMUM
I can let an extra only if people explain me a reason for an exceptional delay by PM.
Sorry for MY delay at least.

[KevinDDR]

Hmm...jujube. I am ready for our . The real question is: are you?

More seriously, I am available on weekdays except for Tuesdays and usually Sundays as well.

[Burbruee]

I should have some time over every day this week.. c_t, Kevin Birell, jujube.. Just post here or better, send me a PM if I'm not online and we can play.
Next week I probably won't have any time at all, so preferably I'd like to play all games this week.
(I'm doomed in this group anyway.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)

[jujube]

Kevin and Burbruee: i'll be on blockbox in a couple hours, so maybe i'll see you there.

[jujube]

i won my match with Burbruee 15-0. ggs.

he had me in a lot of trouble in many of the games, so just like in my TOJ match with blink, the score doesn't tell the whole story. it seemed like i only had a slight edge in speed, but over the course of a game i think it made the difference. we're really closer in skill than the score suggests though.

[Burbruee]

Jujube 15 - 0 Burbruee, didn't seem impossible though. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Blink]

Match Report: Blink over Redstar 15-0

[Amnesia]

Special price for the first one who will get 1 point against blink..

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

[Rosti LFC]

Blink 15 - 0 Rosti

I'm proud to say that some of those games were actually quite close.

[Blink]

Blink 15 - 0 Rosti

I'm proud to say that some of those games were actually quite close.

yeah ggs rosti, had me panicking near the top a few times

[PetitPrince]

People from my group (matt_hatter, caffeine, kotetsu), be advised: I won't be available for a match 'till at least 6th December.

[Amnesia]

Just this post to remind that the 2nd round began 1 weeks ago, but I've just realized that it was not very easy to notice it on the thread.

[caffeine]

Okay guys. I'm free today. I'll try to be in #arika, but you can also AIM me at "weaselage."

[jujube]

i won my match with KevinDDR 15-4. great games Kevin, it was tough. blink recorded and said Kevin was about 20 tpm faster than me, so you can imagine i was scrambling a lot, just trying to survive.

[Blink]

i won my match with KevinDDR 15-4. great games Kevin, it was tough. blink recorded and said Kevin was about 20 tpm faster than me, so you can imagine i was scrambling a lot, just trying to survive.

yep it was a fun match to watch, here is the video: http://www.sendspace.com/file/ekk4yq

[jujube]

thanks for uploading that blink.

[Amnesia]

Canceled ?

That disturbs me, I would like to know if there still an interest for this tournament..
I was impatient to launch the 20G ones, but I am hesitating now..

[Jan]

I still want to play, but I'm only available on weekends.

[Amnesia]

No problem, I just got stressed because of the impatience of blink, if it was only depending on me, this round could be over in january or later, that could not be a problem, but still, I was expecting more than only 4 of the 24 matches..In 2 weeks..

[caffeine]

Yeah, I contacted my opponents twice, but we haven't been able to work out the matches. The longer a tournament lasts, the more of a headache it becomes, the less likely it will be successful.

[M.Bison]

Sorry to be bringer of bad news but speaking of cancelling, I may have to. I have just been flat-out working (6 days a week) - mainly due to Christmas being just around the corner.

Usually on my day off I am catching up with friends and family - I am really struggling to find time to organise matches and times to play.

I think at the point dropping out may be easier (on me and other players) rather than delay the competition a further month, as I will be doing 6 days a week until mid January and just can’t see myself with enough spare time for the comp.

I apologise to everyone in my group and the competition for delaying matches (particularly Blink, I was looking forward to playing you) or causing any inconvenience .

Regards,

- Jono

[Amnesia]

jono, without you this contest loses a lot of his sens..
Personnaly, I am not really opposed by the fact that you, or anyone else takes his time to play..
This is not the world soccer cup, I put a date to limit this round, but I prefer that it tooks 3 months with every matches, than limit it at 3 weeks with less than the half of the matches done..

[DeHackEd]

I lost to Baxter 15-14

For the record, I still HATE zero-ARE

[colour_thief]

Interesting. To my knowledge neither of you play much 0G and Baxter isn't Death M yet. Close games.

[Amnesia]

For the record, I still HATE zero-ARE

Oh you are not alone..But for the culture at least, it is interesting..

EDIT : 5 matches in 2 weeks, and there is 19 remaining matches..
blink, I really wonder what would have been better..Maybe that was an impossible project.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
But no pressure, I repeat that I am not opposed to very long delays..If that can let some additional hours of training to defeat blink, it is not that bad..
Maybe that is the reason that you are so impatient.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif
Technically speaking, it is almost sure if jono learns a bit some basis of versus strategy, he could become the winner of this contest.

[Blink]

Maybe that is the reason that you are so impatient.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif



No.......the reason is because this tournament would take half a year or longer to finish at the pace it was going. But if you think I was trying to get things done faster because I'm scared people are going to improve, then by all means delay the tournament all you want. We'll see who still cares about this tournament in another 3 months, honestly I believe less than 5 people even care about it today. In the end, it's your tournament, run it however you like. I don't want you blaming its failure on my impatience. I don't even think I was being as impatient as you made me sound, I waited over a month for the first round before I even said anything to you. If you believe that extending the tournament deadlines will save this tournament, then who cares what I say. I actually hope you delay the tournament longer now, so you can stop bringing me up like it's my fault.

[muf]

I think it's pretty clear the endless compromises killed it. It's pretty safe to say about half the people lost interested when the game moved from Hebo Mini to Blockbox.

[Amnesia]

I actually hope you delay the tournament longer now, so you can stop bringing me up like it's my fault.

Hey blink calm down ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

Is my humour so hard to get ??
Ahh..
Anyway, I will continu to let it go..We will see, that won't kill anybody if this contest have to be canceled in the close future..

blink, unless I anounce a special price of 3000$ for the winner and 1000$ for the second, it is impossible to impose short delay in expecting that 90% of the players will be present. Honnestly, I have the feeling that I could not do a lot of thing to arrange the situation, or avoid it.

There is another problem I think, maybe it is only me, but we can easily notice than the score is exponentialy the reflect of a difference between 2 players, which kills a lot the suspense..I mean, say 2 players, with a skill at "x" and the second at "1,1x", the result we give us an enormous gap in the score, like 15-3, which is not the case in a soccer comp for example, where the Danemark could defeat the brazil, with much more probability than a Rosti who could beat a blink.

think it's pretty clear the endless compromises killed it. It's pretty safe to say about half the people lost interested when the game moved from Hebo Mini to Blockbox.

I have a reply for that, I let a long period to allow informatician expert people to find a solution about the garbage problem..Many people told me that they was about to solve the bug, but nothing has been done..If I had waited, blink or somebody else would have made the same reproach about the delay between the registering and the starting of the 1st round.

[jujube]

honestly I believe less than 5 people even care about it today.
yeah, that seems to be the general mood. and i agree that extending the tournament won't really make people want to play more. people will just keep dropping out or losing interest. oh well, not much we can do. people want to do their own thing. i doubt that anyone is delaying their match to get more practice. they're just playing single player modes in blockbox or playing different games. i don't want people to feel obligated to play me if they don't want to, so i don't really care one way or the other if my matches get played, but i'll be around at IRC and i'm available most weeknights and at random times on weekends.

[DIGITAL]

I'll be available pretty much everyday for a few weeks since I'm on break. I'm not really the type that goes looking for my opponents so hopefully you guys come looking for me. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Red_Star]

I have really lost interest in it. I will play any opponent who wants to play. I haven't been on much though due to the time of year. All the finals and final papers and projects are all done these last couple weeks of the semester. As much as I enjoy tetris I can only take out a little time during the day recently to play tetris and that usually is at like 4:00 am EST. I apologize to my opponents for not being active but my schoolwork needs to come before any sort of gaming. I'll try to play my matches this coming week when I get off of school.

Edit:I just read my message. I meant to start off as "I haven't really lost interest in it." When typing I often forget to add that last part to make it a negative. My bad. What I meant to say is that it isn't lack of interest, it is because this time of year is very busy for school work until I get my winter break. I apologize for the confusion .

[Amnesia]

ok..Understood !

I imagine that when you all people, have registered, you had a bit of interest for it no ?

So now that everybody don't care anymore about it, please tell me where I failed in the managing of this contest..blink already gave his opinion..

-thanks-

[Red_Star]

I don't think it is because you have really messed up anything Amnesia. I fixed my previous post by the way, I didn't realize that I screwed up a word that changed the entire tone of my post.

I have a link from the Cultris forum to show you. http://cultris.ath.cx/forum/topic.asp?$sid=&id=217

This tournament started Nov 1st. They are still in the second round of the tournament and only half the matches in it have been done. Not to mention the second round is smaller in the Cultris tournament than this tournament.

From my experience with online tournaments is that they take awhile to finish. That length of time really helps to put a damper on any tournament. It starts off strong but then kind of gets a sluggish feeling when so many rounds take awhile. I still would like to see this tournament end, and I think it there can be some interesting battles ahead.

Another problem with the online tournaments is the varying timezones. Due to my awkward hours I am usually awake between 3pm-5am EST on non class days, 10am to 3 am on class days. So, I might be able to catch Jono, but it can be hard for others. I presume Jono has a tough time with his timezone being so different the a lot of the other players.

Online tournaments are just difficult regardless of what you do, at least from my experience. I think there is still support for this tournament, some people are just busy at the moment.

[Jan]

Jan 15 - 6 Baxter

[Baxter]

Hmm, when playing VS against Jan, he generally wins more than I do... I do feel like I could have made it a lot harder for him.

[Rosti LFC]

So what if this tournament takes a while? It's not like it's going to take up any more of my free time if it finishes in March rather than next week. I'd rather see it finished and take a while rather than just get abandoned, because I don't really see what the issue is with longevity.

[Amnesia]

Ah ha ha.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif
Very funny confusion Red Star..
Anyway.

I am glad to see that some people are not bored by the delay..
I repeat it, taking some risk for making you upset again blink, but I have to admit that you made me feel pressured and a lot scared because I really thought that everybody has lost interest like blink. If I was the favorite player like you, I think I would have the same sentiment of impatience.
But I tell you, I don't want you to take that as an offence, it is thank to you that I got pressured, and pushed a bit more things to progress.
And strangely, since that, the matches seems to run again. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[caffeine]

"So what if this tournament takes a while?"

A one month commitment is a totally different thing than a "indefinite... could last forever" commitment. I want to know that this thing will actually be completed before I put in the work required to contact and arrange a match time that's good for both my opponent and myself (something I need to do three times a round?).

I for one don't like responsibilities hanging in the back of my mind for an unknown amount of time.

[Amnesia]

Consider that it could be cancelled if everybody doesn't speak about it during 1 month..
And if I really see that there is no hope anymore, I won't insist..
But at this day, no question to cancel it. I want to see the last matches !!

But currently I want to see the choc of the different cultures : c_t VS jujube http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[KevinDDR]

Even when I am in Europe on a laggy poor PC...my commitment is resolute!

KevinDDR vs. Burbruee

KevinDDR 15
Burbruee 1

KevinDDR wins.

Good games Burbruee! Your name is hard to type for some reason! Yeah!

[Jan]

Jan 15 - 1 Dehacked

[Burbruee]

colour_thief 15 - 0 Burbruee

Good games, came close one time.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Amnesia]

Hmm..DHE.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

I am sure you don't play seriously..You deserve a better performance.

Thaks for these games people !
it is becoming more and more destructor..
There is not close games anymore here..

[DeHackEd]

I don't like the game rules. Zero ARE, no gravity whatsoever, only sonic and hard drops.... I don't practice this mode and I am easily beaten by people who don't misdrop anywhere near as much.

[Amnesia]

We will have our revenge on the next contest..

[colour_thief]

jujube defeats colour_thief 15-4

[jujube]

good games ct, it was tough.

[Amnesia]

jujube defeats colour_thief 15-4

hmmm ? April First joke ?? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

Ahh..That sounds like a possible score.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

Anyway, I am surprised, should I consider that this contest is still open ?
I totally agree if you players, decide to continu your matches..

[Amnesia]

I finaly uploaded this old match :biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVXi9mnuW-Y