TGM TV emission (France)

[Amnesia]

During the end of the last August, PetitPrince, mfm and I have been invited in the HQ of NolifeTV in Paris, in order to record an emission dedied to TGM.
The emission is "Superplay", the topic is not hard to get, some superplayers of several games are invited one time per month to present their passion.
This time it is TGM !!
The date was the January 26th at 7:30pm (french hour)
The chanel is exactely : NOLIVE TV

http://www.nolife-tv.com/ (http://www.nolife-tv.com/default.htm)

The program is :

- First part : presentation of TGM with PetitPrince commenting and explaining his last Gm performance.
- Second part : presentation of TAP with me commenting and presenting :
-----My first TAP MASTER M performance
-----A common TAP DEATH M performance

here is three links for the show :

[TC]Nolife-TV_-_Superplay_The_Tetris_Emission.avi (mufunyo.net) (http://mufunyo.net/tetris/video/%5bTC%5dNolife-TV_-_Superplay_The_Tetris_Emission.avi)

[TC]Nolife-TV_-_Superplay_The_Tetris_Emission.avi (mirror.meroigo.com) (http://mirror.meroigo.com/tetrisconcept/%5bTC%5dNolife-TV_-_Superplay_The_Tetris_Emission.avi)

[TC]Nolife-TV_-_Superplay_The_Tetris_Emission.avi (mindflyer.net) (http://mindflyer.net/tetris/%5bTC%5dNolife-TV_-_Superplay_The_Tetris_Emission.avi)

[Burbruee]

The only french channel I have access to is tv5, so I won't be able to watch it live I'm afraid.

[muf]

I have access to loads of French channels on satellite (Astra 19.2E), but NOLIFE TV isn't in the channel list.

[PetitPrince]

AFAIK , Nolife is only available in France through web TV on ISP such as Free, Orange, Alice, Neuf and the Mosaic mobile thing.

[m:)]

congrats you guys!
be sure to post a link!

[Ai]

I heard about this from PetitPrince a while ago and I'm looking forward to it. I don't have access to the channel so I hope it will be put online by someone. English subtitles aren't necessary for me. ^^

[t-block]

Yeah grats guys - that's awesome. Looking forward to an online vid as well.

[jujube]

yes please upload the video after the show airs. i can't wait to rip it and name the segments "France Tetris Finals" and "Switzerland Tetris Finals" http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Amnesia]

yes please upload the video after the show airs. i can't wait to rip it and name the segments "France Tetris Finals" and "Switzerland Tetris Finals"

we just have to respect the decision of the animator..He doesn't wish to see the video spread on youtube or daylimotion..
I don't remember exactely the reasons..At least, NOLIFE TV doesn't wish to make know everywhere that they make some show about videogames extracted from an emulator..

[Burbruee]

yes please upload the video after the show airs. i can't wait to rip it and name the segments "France Tetris Finals" and "Switzerland Tetris Finals"

we just have to respect the decision of the animator..He doesn't wish to see the video spread on youtube or daylimotion..
I don't remember exactely the reasons..At least, NOLIFE TV doesn't wish to make know everywhere that they make some show about videogames extracted from an emulator..
But how about exclusive on the irc? Or is it a no there as well?

[colour_thief]

I think the "don't spread it" request is taken maybe a bit too seriously. I've already seen a shmup special and it was even subtitled. As long as we keep it off Youtube etc we should be ok.

Is anyone else having nocturnal emissions in anticipation of this?

[Pineapple]

Is anyone else having nocturnal emissions in anticipation of this?
I don't know what worries me more... the fact that you are, or the fact that the stains on Rosi's bed suggests that he is... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[colour_thief]

Nah, I was just taking a stab at the Franglish topic title. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Amnesia]

ouff ! Until I see that, I was doubting :

http://www.nolife-tv.com/component/opti ... Itemid,53/ (http://www.nolife-tv.com/component/option,com_grille/Itemid,53/default.htm)

[mfm005]

During the end of the last August, PetitPrince and I have been invited in the HQ of NolifeTV in Paris [...]
Disgusting... Even if I don't appear onscreen, it is very rude of you to not mention I was there too...

[Amnesia]

je te demande vraiment pardon..Je t'en suppli ne te met pas à croire que je te boycotte !

Bon je suis quand meme dégouté, prend ca comme une ptite revanche, cet enculé de Cyrille a choisi CETTE semaine pour se casser !! la personne la plus proche de moi que je connais et qui a Nolife est à PARIS !! je vais rater l'emission toute la semaine !! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

[mfm005]

I forgive you... If you promise to be very kind to me from now on... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif (and quit posting in french here).
I can record the show for you (all) unless someone else does.

[Amnesia]

The most people will record it, the better it will be, my sister will try, a friend of my little sister will do it, but they are not expert for encoding, compression, etc..So I am sure that if you do it mfm, we will get soon this video.

[muf]

(and quit posting in french here).

[mfm005]

The show has just been delayed to 22h30...

[Zit_100]

Salut à tous,

Absolument extra votre superplay Petit prince et Amnesia, je cherchai à savoir si yavait des joueurs sur Tetris (je viens du forum Nolife) et je suis effectivement un passionné du Jeu.

Maintenant l'opus Arcade GM je ne connais pas du tout, faut vraiment que je m'y mette mais c'est d'une violence, big up à vous et respect pour ce moment là les gars
Je joue sinon sur Ds (pour un noob j'essai de me débrouiller la dessus)

@+

[colour_thief]

Bienvenue Zit_100! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif Une petite traduction pour les anglophones:

Hi everyone,

Absolutely awesome superplay episode Petit Prince and Amnesia. I was wondering if there was a community of Tetris players (I come from the NoLife forums) and I am myself really into the game.

I've never tried the opus of TGM arcade games. I should really look into it now, though it is fiercely challenging. Seriously, big thumbs up guys and Respect for sharing the game with everyone.
I usually play Tetris DS (as a noob I'm simply trying to get better at that).

@+

[Amnesia]

I am very glad to see that :

http://www.nolife-tv.com/forum/showthre ... 39&page=91 (http://www.nolife-tv.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139&page=91)

only few hours after the show, PP and I received not less than 2 pages of compliments. Sorry, everything is in french on this forum.

I hope that show will bring us some new french players ! We are looking to have soon an english subtitled version of the show.

Wellcome Zit_100, now you are in the HELL place, I am not a very strong player any more in this area, the player colour_thief who replied you is much stronger than me.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif ( je sais que tu aimes les compliments toi aussi.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif )

[herc]

video link, please !

[PetitPrince]

I have finally seen the show. Quite good, even though:
1) I'm afraid of the camera, or at least I give that impression (Amnesia, on another hand, seems to have participated in this sort of thing since early childhood)
2) I though there would be more editing, but that was more or less in the same order we did on shooting
3) There was some unavoidable cuts (notably on some explanation about (Auto-)syncro, and fun game mode & cheats like Double mode while having the BIG mode enabled (more or less), because it was thought as being too boring. Though I'm okay with the former (i did have some gifs, but that was really me explaining a very advanced technique to an unexperienced audiance), it's really a shame they didn't kept the latter because well, Double is fun... and so is BIG 20G with Items. Oh, and I really tried to incorporate some TGM3, but Radigo said youtube quality is a no-no. AND I HAVE COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN THAT I HAVE SOME FOOTAGE OF AMNESIA ON CT'S CAB ON DVD. Meh. At least I have written a rather lengthy post-mortem on Nolife's forum that include some links on KAN's performance in Shrase http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif .

Now, subbing. Does someone know a good subbing software for Mac (I'm too lazy to bootcamp) ?

Zit_100 > Bienvenue http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif . Comme tu peux le voir, c'est un forum majoritairement anglophone, même si il y a un nombre impressionnant de francophone (amnesia et moi-même bien sûr, mais aussi colour_thief, jago, cyberguile... et sûrement d'autres qui se cachent).

[m:)]

Now, subbing. Does someone know a good subbing software for Mac (I'm too lazy to bootcamp) ?




what is subbing? I use vmware on OS X, but to run linux not windows.

[Rosti LFC]

I really tried to incorporate some TGM3, but Radigo said youtube quality is a no-no.

The original file for the TGM3 Jin8 Gm on Arika's website is pretty good quality. Or at least, it's a 100MB video file for something only a few minutes long, so I assume it is.

[colour_thief]

Not to mention I can make 480p TGM3 videos on demand. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[K]

ouais un lien vers la video plz http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif
faut que je la telecharge...

p'tain j'y crois pas qu'on puisse voir ta tronche de cake a la teloch en train d'expliquer TGM...
i can't beleive we can see Amnesia cake's face on TV explaining something like TGM http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

i hope you didn't mentionned on tv that a french guy was in japan for TGM (or something like that) http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

et bienvenue a toi Zit_100 !
un peu de sang neuf, ca fait plaisir.... faut dire que bon amnesia.... bon voila quoi...
prend pas exemple sur lui c'est une t*p*tte (joke), il comprend rien a TGM.

[Ai]

I have finally seen the show. Quite good, even though:
1) I'm afraid of the camera, or at least I give that impression (Amnesia, on another hand, seems to have participated in this sort of thing since early childhood)

Nice to hear that it' good. At least you have the courage to show yourself on TV. I'm a little too shy for that I'm afraid. ^^

Bienvenue Zit_100!

[Zit_100]

Merci beaucoup à tous pour votre accueil, je ne pensais pas qu'une telle communauté pouvait exister aussi grande soit elle.
(Thank you all for your home, I never thought that such a community could exist as it is great)

Je compte très prochainement me mettre au TGM, tout est prêt pour que je me lance (un special thx pour Amnesia ^^) http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif
(I intend very soon to play TGM, everything is ready for me to start)

J'aime tellement ce jeu que c'est un réel plaisir d'être parmis vous très sincèrement !!!
(I love this game so that it's a real pleasure to be with you very sincerely)

Thx for all xD

edit : j'ai énormement jouer et je joue encore sur Tetris Ds (je sais je joue pas dans la même échelle de roxxor que vous), mais j'aimerais me confronter à certains d'entre-vous si celà peut se faire afin de voir mon niveau.
( I play a lot and I still play Tetris DS (I know I is not in the same scale roxxor you), but I would like to confront some of you if it can be done to see my level. )

[Amnesia]

1) I'm afraid of the camera, or at least I give that impression (Amnesia, on another hand, seems to have participated in this sort of thing since early childhood)


When you have presented as many scientist researches as I have, during 3 years, in front of an army of teacher who are ready to catch you at any mistake, (and kill you sometimes), be sure that presenting TGM for few minutes is a real pleasure and entertainment..
zit, the people that you have to listen here are : me, mfm, muf, lee_N, PetitPrince, and colour_thief.
The people you have to ignore are : DIGITAL, kotetsu, Rosti, DIGITAL, jago, blink, DIGITAL, Rosti and caffeine (just be polite with him, he is the master of the area.)

[colour_thief]

The people you have to ignore are : DIGITAL, kotetsu, Rosti, DIGITAL, jago, blink, DIGITAL, Rosti and caffeine (just be polite with him, he is the master of the area.)

I'm confused, these are all cool people. What's wrong with Rosti #1 and Rosti #2?

[Zit_100]

ahahah this caveat is noted and I listen carefully to the advice ...

And indeed your achievements at the TGM Superplay really impressed everyone!!

I'm still in shock so it's crazy !!!!!!!!

(ahahah cette mise en garde, c'est noté j'écoute et suis attentivement les conseils...

Et effectivement vos réalisations sur TGM lors du Superplay on vraiment épaté tout le monde !!!!)

edit : I doubt not colour_thief ^^
(j'en doute pas colour_thief)

[Rosti LFC]

I'm confused, these are all cool people. What's wrong with Rosti #1 and Rosti #2?

I'm so good they named me twice.

Maybe one person here who could possibly get that reference though http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

[Amnesia]

The people you have to ignore are : DIGITAL, kotetsu, Rosti, DIGITAL, jago, blink, DIGITAL, Rosti and caffeine (just be polite with him, he is the master of the area.)

I was joking ofcourse..Every body are cool and you can learn some interesting things from everybody actually...

(Except from DIGITAL, kotetsu, Rosti, jago, blink and caffeine )

[tepples]

Does someone know a good subbing software for Mac (I'm too lazy to bootcamp) ?
what is subbing?
Wikipedia knows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtitle_(captioning)).

[m:)]

Does someone know a good subbing software for Mac (I'm too lazy to bootcamp) ?
what is subbing?
Wikipedia knows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtitle_(captioning)).


all though wikipedia is not entirely sure (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subbing) what it is.

[Ex_Mosquito]

I'm confused, these are all cool people. What's wrong with Rosti #1 and Rosti #2?

I'm so good they named me twice.

Maybe one person here who could possibly get that reference though http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

Reggae Reggae sauce!

[muf]

Now, subbing. Does someone know a good subbing software for Mac (I'm too lazy to bootcamp) ?
There's a Mac version of Aegisub if I'm not mistaken.

[colour_thief]

Bravo les gars, je viens finalement de regarder l'émission et c'était vraiment bien fait. Même si je connais déjà toutes les leçons, c'était présenté d'une façon très agréable et intéressante.

[muf]

(and quit posting in french here).

[herc]

waiting for the subbed video http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Amnesia]

Bravo les gars, je viens finalement de regarder l'émission et c'était vraiment bien fait. Même si je connais déjà toutes les leçons, c'était présenté d'une façon très agréable et intéressante.

I can not believe it...You have been able to watch it before me..

I am surprised, I expected at least some critics from you, when you talked about it last summer, you seemd a bit hostile to the project, I mean, the fact that I presented some old performances on TAP..
And knowing you I really thought that you would point every defauts of the show..
So I am very happy to heard these compliments from you !

[Amnesia]

ok, I should have the video in the next few days, I propose that PP translate his part, I translate mine, I send a text file to c_t to correct and adjust the translation, and....That should not be so long..I know that PP is good for this kind of job, adding text, compressing, etc..
But for my case I only can write it on a text, and then c_t your are good enough in french to find where my translation should be placed on the video.

Unless that you propose to do the whole work c_t ?

[colour_thief]

At the time I was worried that the show would be less interesting because there are much stronger Western performances. But in the end I see it works really very well to have the players talk about their actual play. And certainly for an introduction to the game it is not important to show the best possible game. Like you said normal people see almost no difference between 2 tps and 3 tps at 20G. They are both incomprehensible! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

About the subbing, my French comprehension is at a level where I understood everything perfectly and I can translate it without any difficulty. I spoke a little with PetitPrince about it yesterday and I have been thinking about the most efficient way of doing this. Originally I proposed for me to sub from the ending and we would meet in the middle. But now I'm thinking that maybe I could simply translate everything, PetitPrince could convert the translation to subs, and then you and PetitPrince would watch it once to see if you want to change any part of my translation.

I think that would play to our strengths and get this done the fastest, but if you guys want to translate your own sections that works too. What do you think PetitPrince and Amnesia?

[PetitPrince]

I originally planned to translate by myself because it's a good exercice for my rusty english. But knowing myself, I know it would take *ages* before finishing it. So go translate it, we'll do the editing http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif .

[K]

hmmm.... still haven't saw the emission....

[colour_thief]

Just an update that's it's now translated which I think is at least most of the work. We've still got to turn it into subtitles.

Jago and Amnesia, you would both have easily seen it already if you both had real internet connections. So you don't get to complain! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[Amnesia]

I trust you, and I trust PP for the rest of the work, which mean, put the texts on the video..

I just would like to watch it now !!!!!

[colour_thief]

If you want to watch it you must come on IRC. We will not distributre it widely for a while so that the Nolife station gets more views to support their advertisement revenu stream.

[Ai]

I have just seen the TGM superplay video and I want to congratulate both players for their solid presentation. So how did you get on the program anyway?

"On ne sait pas pourquoi. C'est comme quand on demande à quelqu'un pourquoi il fume. Il n'y a aucune réponse. Voilà... C'est une drogue." ^^

i hope you didn't mentionned on tv that a french guy was in japan for TGM (or something like that) :awe:
They sure did. ;-)

[caffeine]

caffeine (just be polite with him, he is the master of the area.)
At first glance I thought this was an undeserved complement, but then I realized your meaning of the word master. =b It's okay, though. I still think you're a psycho, amnesia (please don't kill my family).

[K]

so i finally got the tv show yesterday evening, but question of priority i prefered watching the incredible HULK.... but that's another story http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif
i will watch it more closely this evening... but the first impression wasn't very positive...
i will try to devellop next time. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif

[Amnesia]

Tu as interet à avoir des arguments solides, car tout le monde a trouvé ca pas mal sauf toi..Compte tenu des conditions :
- Distance entre intervenants (tout tourné en 3 heures..)
- Pas de préparation (1 shoot ou 2 maxi)
- TGM ---> immense domaine, bien plus que n'importe quel autre jeu --> problème de synthèse pour des nOOb qui n'y connaissent RIEN..

et encore dls pour le : "parti au japon pour voir les Grand Maitres.."

[K]

c'est assez bof dans l'ensemble, mais c'est marrant de voir vos tronches de cake.

Ca fait plaisir de voir qu'on utilise des animations creees avec the_tool, dont certaines provenant directement de mon site sans aucune mention nulle part ni meme les remerciement... la grande classe.

vous presentez le jeux comme des joueurs, alors qu'il fallait l'aborder comme game designer... vous allez partout et nulle part en meme temps. heureusement que le presentateur vous prend par la main, parce que sinon bonjour les blancs (a moins que ce soit fait expres).

mais bon vous avez des bonnes excuses.... pas de preparation (on y va les mains dans les poches quoi).
merci encore pour le "parti au japon pour voir les Grand Maitres.." ca fait vraiment animal de foire tout ca.
perso je serais mfm j'aurai encore plus les boules de vous avoir accompagner.... on dit plusieurs fois qu'il faut faire son trou a droite.... mais bon on mentionne pas qu'il y a un un seul joueur connu qui le fait a gauche et il est avec vous dans le studio.... la tres grande classe http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

[PetitPrince]

Ca fait plaisir de voir qu'on utilise des animations creees avec the_tool, dont certaines provenant directement de mon site sans aucune mention nulle part ni meme les remerciement... la grande classe.

Ça, c'est un erreur de ma part, et je le regrette beaucoup (c.à.d. avoir des credits digne de ce nom). J'ai laissé les monteurs faire leur propre credit (et mettre des pseudo mal orthographié) et ne leur ai pas donné une vraie liste. Pour essayer de rattraper le coup, j'ai indiqué mes remerciements dans mon gros post-mortem (http://www.nolife-tv.com/forum/showthread.php?t=139&page=93) (scrolle un peu) sur le forum Nolife. Alors d'accord, il y a une grosse frange de l'audimat qui ne regarde pas le forum, mais c'est déjà ça.

vous presentez le jeux comme des joueurs, alors qu'il fallait l'aborder comme game designer... vous allez partout et nulle part en meme temps. heureusement que le presentateur vous prend par la main, parce que sinon bonjour les blancs (a moins que ce soit fait expres).
Superplay c'est essentiellement ça: on a des bons joueurs d'un jeu X, et on leur demande de commenter leur partie ("Alors là j'ai fait ça, parce que le jeu permet ça et ça..."). Une présentation de game designer ("Alors on s'est rendu compte dans un jeu précédent que ça c'était naze, alors dans ce jeu c'est corrigé comme ça") aurait été je pense moins intéressante. Et pis cette démarche là aurait été plus froide qu'une interview de joueur. Ça aurait été moyen aussi dans le sens où même si on connaît les mécaniques de jeu par coeur, c'est pas nous qui l'avons créé, et prendre la place de Mihara ne me plait pas.

Tu l'aurais fait comment, toi ?

merci encore pour le "parti au japon pour voir les Grand Maitres.." ca fait vraiment animal de foire tout ca.
Animal de foire ou grand passionné ? J'aurai aussi pu dire que ct aime faire des analyses statistiques sur le randomizer des jeux, est-ce que c'est un gros nerd ou juste quelqu'un qui aimerait bien connaître exactement les mécaniques de son jeu ? L'interprétation est ouverte, et tu l'as mal pris.
perso je serais mfm j'aurai encore plus les boules de vous avoir accompagner.... on dit plusieurs fois qu'il faut faire son trou a droite.... mais bon on mentionne pas qu'il y a un un seul joueur connu qui le fait a gauche et il est avec vous dans le studio.... la tres grande classe http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif
Pour être exact, je dis "c’est toujours possible de jouer à gauche, mais ça devient dur.". Retrospectivement, c'est vrai que ça aurait été intéressant de mentionner explicitement mfm pour montrer que la disymmetrie du I n'est pas si insurmontable que ça... mais d'un autre côté, si t'as un nouveau joueur qui veut se mettre à TGM (o/ Zit_100), ben il a plus de chance de progresser en mettant son trou à droite.
Et pis bon, mfm, je suis allé chez lui le soir-même, et il n'a rien dit. Alors soit il est trop poli de mon/notre comportement de brute, soit il en a rien à faire.

---- ENGRISH TRANSLATOR IN SUMMMARY LOL ----

- Jago don't like the fact that he isn't mentionned in the credit. I admit and regret that, and that was a blunder from my part. I say that I mentionned him in a post-mortem on Nolife's forum to save what I could (hey, how do we say "sauver les meubles" in english ?).
- He said that he would rather present TGM as a game designer, not as a player. I respond that Superplay are interview of players and not game designers, and that the latter approach of the problem would be less "warm" that the former. I challenge him to tell us how we would have done it.
- He don't like that we said that "he went to Japan to see the grandmasters". I said that was a problem of interpretation, and that he got that wrong and I could also name ct for his analytical work on Tetris randomizer and that would be the same problem (mega-nerd ou ultra-passionnate ?).
- Lastly, he felt bad for mfm because we often said that playing on the left was bad, and that we didn't name him. I retort that retrospectively, that could have been interesting to do so, because that shows that it was indeed possible to play on the left, but ultimately, for a beginner, it is better to play on the right. I also said that I went at mfm's place (hey, free double-games !), and I didn't mention any of that, so he probably don't care about that.

[K]

Animal de foire ou grand passionné ? J'aurai aussi pu dire que ct aime faire des analyses statistiques sur le randomizer des jeux, est-ce que c'est un gros nerd ou juste quelqu'un qui aimerait bien connaître exactement les mécaniques de son jeu ? L'interprétation est ouverte, et tu l'as mal pris.
- there are manner to tell things, and clearly Amnesia is not using the good one, but that's ok he excused and, i don't care anymore.
- i'm unhappy to not have been mentioned for the work i've done on the_tool (c'est comme donner de la nourriture aux cochons )... btw i don't read no life forum. but no problem, i don't care anymore about this outdated version.
- about mfm, mentioning his name take approximately ~1 sec.
Superplay c'est essentiellement ça: on a des bons joueurs d'un jeu X, et on leur demande de commenter leur partie ("Alors là j'ai fait ça, parce que le jeu permet ça et ça..."). Une présentation de game designer ("Alors on s'est rendu compte dans un jeu précédent que ça c'était naze, alors dans ce jeu c'est corrigé comme ça") aurait été je pense moins intéressante. Et pis cette démarche là aurait été plus froide qu'une interview de joueur. Ça aurait été moyen aussi dans le sens où même si on connaît les mécaniques de jeu par coeur, c'est pas nous qui l'avons créé, et prendre la place de Mihara ne me plait pas.
- don't satisfy of average. peoples know what is tetris (gameboy shit), but they surely don't know what is TGM (or maybe those freak video on youtube full of troll comment). Ok using the words "game designer" wasn't appropried so i will use "Game design presentation", and i don't give a shit of Mihara conspiracy or things like this, ARIKA is first of all a company, with men working together to lead projects to success. The game designer is for me mostly a guy overtaking credits. you should have started with overall description of the game serie and GOAL. the goal explanation is vaguely explained. whatTHE grandmaster rank challenge represent for a player is what should have been put in first. then should come the mechanics explanation as (in order) Gravity, lock delay, ARE, IRS and DAS (from ARE it become very technical so can be skipped) then but always keeping explanation for pure novice, by comparing other tetris version (eg gameboy shit) the strategy and building, wall kick should only came to the end...
i'm also very disappointed that we see arcade stick on the table with explanation of what is a double rotation (trivia), but nothing about zangi-move and time attack... if i'm a pure neophite, by watching this emission i will simply think that those guy push lever and button as freak which is of course absolutely not the case (or maybe for amnesia http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif ).

[NoTghost]

Animal de foire ou grand passionné ? J'aurai aussi pu dire que ct aime faire des analyses statistiques sur le randomizer des jeux, est-ce que c'est un gros nerd ou juste quelqu'un qui aimerait bien connaître exactement les mécaniques de son jeu ? L'interprétation est ouverte, et tu l'as mal pris.


Non non, c'était vraiment pour me foutre de sa gueule.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

Bon dsl si l'ensemble t'a décu jago..Mais maintenant c'est fait..Moi aussi je me dis sans cesse que ca aurai pu être plus abouti..

[colour_thief]

REAL TRANSLATION:
Jago is jealous that he was not in France to present the episode himself.

All this bullshit about giving credit or presenting slightly differently is not important. The only important goal of the episode is to give a general idea of the game and hopefully attract new players. While I agree that the most important missing detail would be to explain zangi-moves and time attack finesse, this is really not possible to explain without many slow motion animations and movies of joystick motions. So while it is very important, you can't just sit down in one take and explain all that stuff clearly. Within the limitations of the show's format, it was a great success. I happen to think that Amnesia in particular is the best person from our community who could evangelise the game on TV. We all know the subject very well, but he can speak about it with a certain passion that others cannot match.

About credit in particular... The audience surely does not care. For example I spent ~10 hours translating this episode. DeHackEd turned it into timed subtitles, and probably soon muf will finish the rest. I'm not sure how others feel, but I was going to suggest that instead of crediting individuals we simply credit tetrisconcept. The reality is: All the people who care (tetrisconcept itself) already know you did the work on The_Tool. It's the same for you going to Japan "to train TGM". Ok so this is not strictly true, but all the people who understand the player reference (tetrisconcept again) know the truth.

[caffeine]

We all know the subject very well, but he can speak about it with a certain passion that others cannot match.
Agreed. Amnesia to TGM is like my sister to organic foods.

[Ai]

Honestly I was surprised with Amnesia's performance. I had seen a picture of him before, but his attitude was totally different from what I expected in a good way.

The presentation may not be perfect, but I think it was a pretty good introduction to TGM. Especially considering all the limitations of the show format and the complex subject TGM really is. Those interested can always look online for more details. That's why this community exists in the first place.

[Amnesia]

Agreed. Amnesia to TGM is like my sister to organic foods.

I am really not the most addicted here..Digital, c_t and KB are good examples of really insanely addicted players..

[caffeine]

Key word: passionate, not addicted.

[KevinDDR]

I am really not the most addicted here..Digital, c_t and KB are good examples of really insanely addicted players..

To quote Amnesia:

"ouf..."

Really I should stop playing, I think...but I feel like I have a duty to the game, to everyone, to show my best potential, especially when I am so close to the Shirase torikan, so close to the World GM.

[Amnesia]

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5228/p1010710008el8.jpg

I just have to send the high quality emission to muf, and then we should have it soon.

[colour_thief]

Thanks! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[colour_thief]

A small update that the subtitles are timed, I've edited my original translation, and muf has received the DVD with a high quality recording of the show. So things are still generally moving forward and we're almost there.

[PetitPrince]

... any news ? I don't have time to go to #arika, so i'm asking news here.

[colour_thief]

As far as I know everything is sitting with muf right now. He was in Germany recently, but he's back now and will probably look into this when he gets some time.

[hova]

i don't understand this. so someone was on french TV to show off TGM and no one recorded it?

[m:)]

i don't understand this. so someone was on french TV to show off TGM and no one recorded it?


they recorded it but the translation is lost in transition

[Amnesia]

Hova, it is me who presented TGM on TV show the 26th january, few days later, some people had already translated everything and put 50% of the subbing on the video, then I sent a copy of the show I had recorded on a DVD for a much better quality, so they restarted the work of puting the subtitles, and now, they are struggling about a problem in the high quality version..A problem of interlacing of frame I heard..I don't know what it is, but I am sure that the person who work on it are too perfectionist, and they are making a huge delay for almost nothing.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[herc]

just juse virtualdub.org and its smart-deinterlacer filter. for reading mpegs, there is a special virtualdub around:

http://www.moviecodec.com/downloads/327d.html

hurry up! i would also finally like to see the video!

[Meroigo]

I agree with Amnesia... Someone wants it very perfect when i personally could just see it in quality compared to a youtube video on the lowest quality, if i just got an subtitle file with the translation with it. ;D

Just release whatever quality you got of the video now, together with the subs. You can still work on a high quality version for archiving, after that...

The date is March 13th, 2009.

[colour_thief]

Relax guys, muf's already settled on a process with compromises. But it still takes a chunk of free time to get it done... Free time is the limiting factor.

[muf]

Yep, when I got back from Germany I had a nice pile of real work waiting for me. I haven't even unpacked my Ti yet. I think I'll get it done by the weekend (provided that DeHackEd is around in case I run into trouble with his subtitle file).

[colour_thief]

Ok guys, muf has done the video editing and that looks great. The translation is done too and edited as well. The subtitles are timed, and all that's left is some slight editing of the subtitles to make it more clear who's talking. This just means going through and colouring all the text appropriately. This job has defaulted to me, but I've seen the video so many times I'm kind of sick of working on it. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif So...

Any volunteers? No knowledge of French is required, as long as you're smart enough to figure out who's talking based on context. If nobody volunteers I'll do it after the Carnival of Death.

[deepdorp]

i volunteer to color the text! but i would need a little instruction as to how that is done first.

[Amnesia]

and ? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

I am really curious to read the translation of my talks..Please...Come on with this damn video.

[caffeine]

Yeah really. Shit or get off the pot, as my mawmaw would say in a thick Cajun accent when we played dominoes.

[colour_thief]

Relax guys.

[jujube]

yeah shit in the pot please sir.

[muf]

[TC]Nolife-TV_-_Superplay_The_Tetris_Emission.avi (http://www.mindflyer.net/tetris/%5bTC%5dNolife-TV_-_Superplay_The_Tetris_Emission.avi)

[Rosti LFC]

I think I might wait for someone to sub the Blu-Ray release. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Nah, already watched it, good video.

[Meroigo]

Haven't seen it yet, but here's a mirror for the video file. http://mirror.meroigo.com/tetrisconcept ... ission.avi (http://mirror.meroigo.com/tetrisconcept/%5bTC%5dNolife-TV_-_Superplay_The_Tetris_Emission.avi)

And thank you!! It's been a great while and I've been looking forward to it alot. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[Meroigo]

Now I've watched it.

Very good, PetitPrince and Amnesia! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif And thanks to the people who worked on getting it translated. ^^

I will spread this video to people I want to learn about TGM. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[Ai]

Good to see that the project is complete. I will download it later this evening to check it out. The version I have is low quality with at the end 30 minutes dedicated to the demoscene. ^^

[Caithness]

I just watched it. Good job, everyone.

I was a bit surprised that all of the background music came from Paranoia Agent.

[jujube]

great work, it was fun to watch.

[Jan]

I liked it. It encouraged me to play some Texmaster again.

[caffeine]

Coooooool. Good job on explaining to the public that, while some things make TGM easier than Gameboy Tetris, it's also a good game.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Although I don´t have sound at my computer at the moment it was very entertaining. Great work in explaining what is different and better about TGM than the older Tetris games.

[Ai]

Awesome video quality compared to the version I already had. Thanks for the hard work by those involved! ^^

[Quad]

It was nice to see that Amnesia does not look half as crazy as he may seem some times. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[Amnesia]

Ah..I bet you are disapointed..
Actually, that was not Amnesia who presented the game but Vincent Laurent, a calm, sensible and just a little bit shy person..

[jujube]

Amnesia: i liked how you and PetitPrince described the game mechanics. the host seemed genuinely interested, and he responded with good questions and comments. it seemed like he had a basic understanding of tetris, and that probably helped you guys to not shy away from going into specifics, and you didn't shy away.

[PetitPrince]

Ah..I bet you are disapointed..
Actually, that was not Amnesia who presented the game but Vincent Laurent, a calm, sensible and just a little bit shy person..
Yeah, Vincent is waaaaaaaay less impulsive than Amnesia.

[EIHoppe]

Great work--was a very enjoyable watch! I agree with the previous comments, especially jujube's: the host was very much into the show and definitely helped guide the discussion along, and you guys covered a lot of what makes TGM so special to us all.

Shame the arcade sticks were basically just stage props other than the double rotation bit, though, heh.

I will very probably send links to some personal friends that I'm trying to get into TGM, though--I think they'll enjoy it and get a kick out of it. =)

~EI

[Burbruee]

Thanks, it was fun to watch.

[Amnesia]

the presentator looked really interested it is true..And I think that was really honnest from him !
few hours bafore the recording, in a restaurant I asked him :
"Is it not too much boring ? Too be forced to enter so deep and look so concerned by the passion of those many (geek) players ?"

and he replied :

"To be fond of that is my passion, I am very interested to understand WHY some players desire to push a game so deep, what this game has to push players like that.."

before the recording, we discussed a lot with him about TGM, but I agree that he has been very performant to follow us, me and PP, during the comments.

[Xkeeper]

It's somewhat amazing to see an actual show pick up and show the TGM series. Unfortunate that it's not a wider audience, though...

Quite an interesting show, though http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif Although I was kind of hoping the host would try his hand at a game.

[Deniax]

Great show guys

[rednefed]

I watched it and liked it. Good job guys.
It's basically a movie version of the "Why TGM is good" essay and/or the TGM guide on the wiki.

[Taratang]

Good job guys.

[Amnesia]

Taratang ???!!!!

Where have you been all this time ??
how are you ??

[PetitPrince]

the presentator looked really interested it is true..And I think that was really honnest from him !
few hours bafore the recording, in a restaurant I asked him :
"Is it not too much boring ? Too be forced to enter so deep and look so concerned by the passion of those many (geek) players ?"

and he replied :

"To be fond of that is my passion, I am very interested to understand WHY some players desire to push a game so deep, what this game has to push players like that.."

before the recording, we discussed a lot with him about TGM, but I agree that he has been very performant to follow us, me and PP, during the comments.
Remember that Radigo is a veteran shmup player (he co-wrote a complete Radiant Silvergun guide amongst other). I think we can understand each other between to of the most impressive japanese video game http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif .

[Ineluctable_Entropy]

I was finally introduced and shown some bits and pieces of this video!

Petit_Prince looked so awkward on camera, ahaha. I can tell he was nervous. :p

Amnesia kept touching his face! He did it so much, the host also started touching his face. :D

Very entertaining! Both the performances and explanations! Helped me understand TGM a bit more and its trivia (ARE <--- :awe:).

I also learned some interesting strategy like building the stack in the middle and such but I have a problem. I build my stacks with the "I" hole to the left and not to the right. Is it really such a bad thing?

Admittedly, I have not mesmerised the rotation space for the I (2x2/2x3), but I like to think Tetris is open to all types of gameplay. It will be boring for me if I have to follow a formula...

[Amnesia]

Sincerely, mfm is a very accurate and solid player and he plays only on the left.
I may say that you will put on your back some lower probabilities of success, because of the 2x2 versus 2x3 stuff, but even with this problem, mfm still have the unbeatable records of earliest S9 on both TGM and TAP, so his stacking opportunities don't seem to be affected by the fact he shoots on the left.

[Ineluctable_Entropy]

Sweet. Good to know.

I am not too bothered by the lower probability of success. ;)

Thanks, Amnesia.