For you Xbox 360 owners - Tetris Splash on XBLA.. now [Archive]

PacoDG

10-03-2007, 05:31 PM

Despite the name "Tetris Splash".. don't let images of Wetrix enter your brain.

http://xbox360rally.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/tetrisheader.jpg

Pics make me think it will be similar to TetriNET (6 player support/teams).

My 360 d-pad makes me know different.

Some people onDigg dugg it (http://digg.com/gaming_news/Tetris_The_Best_Video_Game_Ever_Hitting_XBLA_Tomor row_Up_to_6_Players).

I start work at 6pm, I need sleep to work, I know if I bought this game I would play it until I had all the achievements.

caffeine

10-03-2007, 06:00 PM

played one game so far. thank god for fast DAS and customizable controls.

Needle

10-03-2007, 06:21 PM

How fast? 1 cell/frame fast, or slightly slower?

PacoDG

10-03-2007, 06:38 PM

played one game so far. thank god for fast DAS and customizable controls.

Ah caffeine, a name I recognize beating my ass in Tetris Evolution early on when I got the game. What controls are you using other than what is given? (I seriously haven't turned my 360 on to download it, I am not kidding about not getting any sleep if I download this right now)

caffeine

10-04-2007, 12:19 AM

DAS is 1G. Certainly fast enough for proper finesse.

My setup:

Left -- LT (The clicky one you press with your index finger)

Right -- RT

Rotate CW -- D-pad right

Rotate CCW -- D-pad left

Hard drop -- Y

Soft Drop -- X

Hold -- B

It's confusing at first, but I'm definitely catching on quickly.

The only ARE exist during line clears, and it's very short (less than half a second). During which you can initial rotate or hold.

Gameplay is very solid and fast! Looking forward to making some actual decent times in 40 lines.

kotetsu213

10-04-2007, 12:25 AM

Are my eyes deceiving me? 1G in an official game not called TGM? Now I NEED a 360.

colour_thief

10-04-2007, 12:32 AM

Who authorized this? It actually sounds playable. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

2 more questions:

What randomizer does it use?

What modes are there?

Rosti LFC

10-04-2007, 12:34 AM

The only ARE exist during line clears, and it's very short (less than half a second). During which you can initial rotate or hold.

In which case nothing like TetriNET then.

tepples

10-04-2007, 12:59 AM

But when will Tetwiis come out? Or has Tetris Holding chosen Microsoft as the preferred console platform vendor for this generation, just as it chose Nintendo during the 8- and 16-bit eras?

Rosti: Might it be more like Tetrifast (Tetrinet 1.x with ARE reduced from 60 frames to 1)?

DIGITAL

10-04-2007, 01:08 AM

Wow, 1G DAS, customizable controls, IRS, and IHS. Is 20G present?

caffeine

10-04-2007, 01:16 AM

Probably no 20G. I haven't played marathon yet. Haven't checked the randomizer yet. I haven't really even played it more than half an hour total today. I'll write up more description tonight when I get a chance to play more.

Single player: Marathon and 40 Lines. Multiplayer: not sure exactly. I know there's free for all, team matches, and ranked matches.

kbr420

10-06-2007, 11:09 AM

u guys like the game so far? its really easy to unlock all the achievements.

fyi, the DAS is the SAME as Tetris Zone - Sprint.

Needle

10-06-2007, 06:27 PM

PacoDG

10-06-2007, 09:50 PM

Huh? DAS in Zone Sprint is nowhere near 1G. Something must be wrong here. Can anyone confirm? I cannot check, since, to quote Eddie Rogers, "There are no plans to make it available in Japan, as there is no market for Xbox Live in Japan".

Man, the thought process behind not making a download available to certain areas still confuses me. I am no business major, but does that really make sense at all?

There used to be a trick to creating a silver account on a 360 in a different region, but I believe Microsoft stopped it (though it doesn't hurt to try).

The game kicks ass, something I noticed rather quickly is a lot of people actually talk when playing, which is actually pretty good, something I wouldn't have thought was good beforehand (Tetris isn't really known for its trash talking audience), but honestly a lot of people just BS'ing while playing, when it comes down to just two players, its amusing to hear people root for one player over another. The team modes are pretty fun if you got the right players on your team (I tried it with the chick ranked number 2 on the leaderboards right now, we raped all others).

I need to switch my controls though, using the d-pad to do a fast drop has cost me two games, it is just over sensitive, so it ends up dropping my piece, but then the next piece right away, ive learned to adjust how lightly I tap it, but since I can just customize the controls, I will do that.

Rosti LFC

10-06-2007, 09:52 PM

Man, the thought process behind not making a download available to certain areas still confuses me. I am no business major, but does that really make sense at all?

I think the translation could probably be the main reason. I can't imagine it would cost too much to convert from English, but there's no other reason I can think of.

Needle

10-06-2007, 10:19 PM

Another reason could be the fact that Tetris Online Japan Inc. owns the rights to Online Tetris games in Japan for all platforms except for cell phones, and the complications it causes.

Sully

10-07-2007, 04:15 AM

I'll download this when I get home tonight. My biggest complaint with Tetris Evolution was how completely crappy the x360 controller is. I'm sure it's no different for Tetris Splash =/

M.Bison

10-07-2007, 04:41 AM

My biggest complaint with Tetris Evolution was how completely crappy the x360 controller is. I'm sure it's no different for Tetris Splash

Again with the Xbox 360 controller complaints. Wouldn't the obvious solution be to buy a controller with a better D-Pad?

There not that hard to find, or that expensive.

- Jono

JDash247

10-07-2007, 11:53 AM

How about another solution, BUY THE FIGHTING STICK EX2 HORI ARCADE STICK. It feels like the FS3 for the ps3 and the wii fighting stick. Thats what I use and I have not complaints (expect it being a bitch to mod).

10-07-2007, 02:15 PM

u guys like the game so far? its really easy to unlock all the achievements.

yo carpet seller, i can't buy buy buy buy and play this game (unavailable for europe).

Sully

10-07-2007, 11:30 PM

I downloaded it this morning and *ghasp* struggled mightily with the d-pad. I'll probably try remapping buttons but I'm just so used to movement/hard drop with the d-pad that I'm afraid to try something different.

I played a few online matches. Not much competition. The 6 player system is cool.

I played standard marathon once. I guess I could have looked around and found out, but is it highest score at 150 lines? If so, ST stacking is the way to go, right?

I'll make some vids and throw them on youtube later tonight.

caffeine

10-09-2007, 02:13 AM

No, Sully, ST stacking is definitely not the way to go.

As for TS DAS vs. TZ DAS, I'll check tomorrow.

Sully

10-09-2007, 03:05 AM

lee n

10-09-2007, 03:21 AM

Pineapple

10-09-2007, 03:24 AM

Hmm. Well I played marathon a few times today and it's like nothing I've ever played before. I may be mistaken, but it appeared that level 1 lasts for 5 lines, level 2 lasts for 10 lines, etc. all the way to level 15, which lasts for 75 lines- which is 525 lines total. I started at level 15 and my game ended at 75 lines, so it appears that you should always start at level 1.

I was looking through the achievements and was sort of confused about the one that requires a combo of 8 or higher, but then I read what combos are in the help area. I've never seen these in a Tetris game either. Basically, a combo occurs with each consecutive piece dropped that clears at least one line. Dropping a piece without clearing a line breaks combo. For big combos, you need to fill the well with mostly complete lines. Is this the way to rack up huge points, then?

The marathon mode sounds like TW marathon mode, but in that, lines aren't exactly lines (tetris counts as 8 lines, and then as 12 for back to back)

And combos like that have been around since at least TGM1. But TZ was the first non-TGM guideline game to feature them, and I think that TOJ was the only other until TS was released. And also what Lee said http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

DIGITAL

10-09-2007, 03:26 AM

I've never seen these in a Tetris game either.

I guess you haven't seen the easy mode in TGM3, where more points equals more fireworks. Setting up combos is indeed the way to rack up points.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPCIXUEu9cE

Cultris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOFM8N74DYY

TOJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Oy3oLAtk1w

kiwibonga

10-11-2007, 03:23 AM

How about we all post our gamer tags and play some really really hot tetris?

Mine is kiwibonga, feel free to add me.

I'm actually amazed at how skilled the people on there are compared to Tetris Evolution... It's very refreshing to finally lose :p

kiwibonga

10-11-2007, 03:26 AM

There used to be a trick to creating a silver account on a 360 in a different region, but I believe Microsoft stopped it (though it doesn't hurt to try).

Sorry for the double post... I actually had to do that to get the game.. I'm in Canada but my hotmail had my old american address on it, so when I went to redeem the points card, it told me it wouldn't work... The guy at xbox support actually told me to make a silver account and buy the game with it...

Simply having the game on the hard drive allows any account to play the game from the console, so I've basically got this canadian xbox live account for buying stuff, and I use my regular gold subscription to play it...

caffeine

10-11-2007, 03:36 AM

mine's caffeineTC.

M.Bison

10-11-2007, 05:11 AM

I just got the game yesterday and I can already tell it is going to destroy my social life.

Such a fun game http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

User name: Physco M Bison

See you all there http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

- Jono

caffeine

10-11-2007, 07:53 AM

yeah so jono, kiwi, and i just played. good times. my favorite was when randoms keep walking in on the game not knowing what they were getting into. one guy said, "oh crap, i'm not getting any good pieces. i'm gonna lose."

good pieces? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

jujube

10-11-2007, 08:14 AM

good pieces? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

yeah getting a run of tetrominoes can top you out pretty quick. it just wasn't his day i guess http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

kotetsu213

10-11-2007, 08:27 AM

He definitely needed the green piece.

jujube

10-11-2007, 08:44 AM

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

kiwibonga

10-12-2007, 04:53 AM

LEADERBOARD NUMBA ONE WOOOOO

Come dethrone me! :p

Sully

10-12-2007, 05:21 AM

LEADERBOARD NUMBA ONE WOOOOO

Come dethrone me! :p

40 lines? Marathon? Trueskill? Ranked score (however the fuck that works)?

kiwibonga

10-12-2007, 07:32 AM

Ranked matches (6 player free for all)

Sully

10-12-2007, 05:54 PM

How about this comeback after playing like a retard? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lVrdYHZD6Q

Rosti LFC

10-12-2007, 08:59 PM

How about this comeback after playing like a retard? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lVrdYHZD6Q

The feeling that you get for making comebacks from situations like that is the reason I love TDS 4-player so much.

lee n

10-12-2007, 09:21 PM

How do you "aim" your garbage in Splash?

Rosti LFC

10-12-2007, 09:41 PM

How do you "aim" your garbage in Splash?

From the looks of it, the garbage goes to whichever opponent has a red border on their playing field.

lee n

10-12-2007, 10:41 PM

How do you "aim" your garbage in Splash?
From the looks of it, the garbage goes to whichever opponent has a red border on their playing field.

Ah, I was looking for some marker but I didn't see that.. good call.

Sully

10-12-2007, 11:03 PM

The garbage target's gamer pic also appears in the upper right of your play area.

I'm not sure what path the target follows- it seems to jump at random every 5 seconds rather than going through a steady rotation.

Sully

10-12-2007, 11:28 PM

LEADERBOARD NUMBA ONE WOOOOO

Come dethrone me! :p

I see you're #1 for score with like 56k- WTF is that? I'm confused.

kiwibonga

10-13-2007, 09:37 AM

I'm not sure how it works actually... I slipped down to number two today, a guy got 120-odd thousand points; it was down to 1 on 1 and the other person was lagging, so he got to play forever (i.e., a glitch)...

I thought it was based on win rate, but it turns out it's probably just actual score... That would mean that being #1 in ranked matches isn't really an indication of skill, just an indication of how good you are at making games drag on forever :p

caffeine

10-13-2007, 06:45 PM

Yeah, it's an accumulation of your score in each game. I have like ten minutes logged, and I'm ranked like eighth or something, while most of the guys have a few hours. So that probably means most people aren't making T-Spins and stuff.

The only leaderboards I'm going to care about are 40 lines and maybe Trueskill.

Sully

10-13-2007, 07:50 PM

Yeah, it's an accumulation of your score in each game.

It's not an accumulation- it seems to be your highest score in a single ranked match.

caffeine

10-13-2007, 10:05 PM

oh really? i didn't realize that.

M.Bison

10-15-2007, 05:44 AM

yeah so jono, kiwi, and i just played. good times.
Some dam fine matches they where!
my favorite was when randoms keep walking in on the game not knowing what they were getting into.
Lol, its the best! It always takes them at least 3 matches to figure out what the hell is going on.
one guy said, "oh crap, i'm not getting any good pieces. i'm gonna lose."

Yeah, I am hearing alot of people say its "a game of luck". WTF?

But over all I am loving this game, its so much fun to play http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

- Jono

tepples

10-15-2007, 06:25 AM

one guy said, "oh crap, i'm not getting any good pieces. i'm gonna lose."
Yeah, I am hearing alot of people say its "a game of luck". WTF?

Other than the Random Generator (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/../wiki/index.php?title=Random_Generator), which involves a lot less luck than most of the randomizers used before 2001, what is based on luck in Tetris?

kotetsu213

10-15-2007, 06:33 AM

garbage

caffeine

10-15-2007, 06:37 AM

it's one of the two reasons why some people reject or dismiss tetris's depth. 1. it's too simple, and 2. it's all luck, since i remember playing it back in the day and not getting the i sometimes.

tepples

10-15-2007, 07:16 AM

2. it's all luck, since i remember playing it back in the day and not getting the i sometimes.

Would it be hard to, say, direct them to pin eight .com /luck (http://pineight.com/luck/default.htm) ?

M.Bison

10-15-2007, 07:59 AM

Would it be hard to, say, direct them to pin eight .com /luck

Lol, I love it http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

- Jono

caffeine

10-15-2007, 08:05 AM

oh man, i'm so using this. thanks tepples. it's like even though i tell them we get the same pieces, they don't get it, but i think this is perfect.

Sully

10-15-2007, 08:32 AM

pin eight .com /luck (http://pineight.com/luck/default.htm)

I'm putting that as my xbox live motto.

jujube

10-16-2007, 08:24 PM

does anyone know how the garbage arrangement works in TS? in TOJ it seems like if you get a lot very quickly then all the holes will be in the same column. this seems like a fair system to me. on the other hand, if you get a little garbage at a time and the holes are scattered then you can make combos to keep yourself in the game. if TS is anything like this then i'm not sure you can blame anything on bad luck.

edit: and if someone thinks they're being targeted in a 6 player game they can only point the finger at the player who finishes 5th.

M.Bison

10-17-2007, 08:44 AM

LOL

http://www.xcm.cc/xcm_xfps_360.htm

I am so getting one of these for Tetris Splash.

Good bye Xbox 360 controller!

- Jono

Pineapple

10-17-2007, 11:01 AM

LOL
http://www.xcm.cc/xcm_xfps_360.htm
I am so getting one of these for Tetris Splash.

Good bye Xbox 360 controller!

- Jono

Just for Splash? what about the other X360/XBLA games, for which that would rock so hard for?

caffeine

10-17-2007, 06:02 PM

I looked at that a long time ago, and I couldn't figure out if you could customize the controls. I read it was set to wasd. Maybe if you combined it with a macro keyboard, you could become god of Splash.

Pineapple

10-18-2007, 12:38 AM

caffeine

10-18-2007, 01:40 AM

what do you mean by analogue sticks and digital controls? for the keyboard?

colour_thief

10-18-2007, 02:16 AM

He means everything on the X360 pad that can be on or off, with nothing in between, can have a custom configuration on the keyboard.

kiwibonga

10-18-2007, 05:01 AM

Where's everyone? Come play some ranked matches NOW!

Sully

10-18-2007, 05:45 AM

I'll be home around 11pm, but I *may* play Beautiful Katamari.

Blink

10-29-2007, 12:14 AM

anybody still play! just got my gamertag = blinktetris, add me as a friend or something.

Monte

11-10-2007, 09:47 AM

looks like people don't play any ranked matches these days. My gamertag is "QED beeyaaaatch" if anybody wants to add me.

DumbledorsArmy

12-14-2007, 04:53 AM

Nope, there is absolutely nobody playing ranked matches anymore....

M.Bison

12-14-2007, 05:07 AM

Nope, there is absolutely nobody playing ranked matches anymore....

I just started playing again. I had a pretty big gap waiting on the XFPS to arrive.

- Jono

caffeine

12-14-2007, 05:22 AM

how is it?

DumbledorsArmy

12-14-2007, 07:33 AM

I'm curious as to how the XFPS will be with a keyboard and mouse for FPS games.... I love FPS's but suck ass with a controller.....

M.Bison

12-14-2007, 05:27 PM

how is it?
Not to bad. I cant say much as I really have only played about an hour or so of Tetris on it. It does not allow diagonal movements which is not so good for me. You also need a wireless headset if you whish to chat - OUCH!...........pricey.
I'm curious as to how the XFPS will be with a keyboard and mouse for FPS games.... I love FPS's but suck ass with a controller.....

I wish I could help you out and let you know how it goes, as I have the snipper edition, which I would imagine would be quite good with FPS games. However I am stuck in the 80's/90's gaming and life style wise and having only first heard the phrase "FPS" when I was discovering the XFPS I really am not going to be all that much help.

- Jono

kiwibonga

12-17-2007, 03:48 PM

M.Bison

12-18-2007, 06:20 AM

Cause face it, crushing little 12 year olds' hopes and dreams on christmas day is just so much more fun when the matches are ranked

Lol, very true.

- Jono

kiwibonga

12-18-2007, 08:54 AM

Just played a little today...

Top comments:

1. Get a life/job/girlfriend

2. Are you asian/Are you a robot?

3. Quit ganging up on me you assholes! (when the game is down to 1 on 1)

jujube

12-18-2007, 10:01 AM

Just played a little today...

Top comments:

1. Get a life/job/girlfriend
2. Are you asian/Are you a robot?
3. Quit ganging up on me you assholes! (when the game is down to 1 on 1)

here's what they were probably thinking:

1. [this guy can only be better than me because he has no life and plays tetris all the time]

2. [as an American, i can't be expected to beat this person/thing]

3. [i'm only losing because i'm being targeted]

and here's what i would've said to the people:

1. get better at tetris or stfu, and btw you can have a girlfriend too!

2. i'm actually a robot from outer space.

3. sorry, it's too much fun ganging up on you by myself. deal with it.

Rosti LFC

12-19-2007, 12:35 AM

1. Get a life/job/girlfriend

Now that my school removed the table football from our common room, I've started filling my free time with TAP. That's a pretty regular comment, alongside "holy crap how did you even get that good?". Generally, they're all compliments.

Funny how people assume that because I'm good I spend all my time playing Tetris. It probably doesn't average out to much more than an hour per day for me, which can hardly be said to be all of my free time.

DumbledorsArmy

12-27-2007, 10:50 AM

I hope a lot of people get xbox live points for christmas and get tetris... Then maybe we'll get a little more ranked match action...

Cause face it, crushing little 12 year olds' hopes and dreams on christmas day is just so much more fun when the matches are ranked http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

I hear ya kiwi. I was thinking the same thing. Unfortunately, I haven't gotten into any ranked matches yet. Maybe in the next week or two.....

muf

12-27-2007, 08:48 PM

Wait, DumbledorsArmy, aren't you that guy that posted a "Perfect tetris" video on YouTube that had LOTS of infinity abuse (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/../wiki/index.php?title=Infinity) in it? I should warn you: there is no such thing as "perfection" on tetrisconcept http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif.

caffeine

12-27-2007, 11:10 PM

that was triforce i think.

muf

12-27-2007, 11:53 PM

that was triforce i think.

Nah, it's him:

Perfect Tetris Evolution game by DumbledorsArmy360 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7If4sLgSx8s)

fnord

12-28-2007, 12:01 AM

Oh, well, that triforce dude posted another video called 'the perfect tetris' which was him doing 7 tetrises in TDS's line clear mode. Lots of infinity abuse, no T-spins. It was a lot worse than this one.

jujube

12-28-2007, 12:06 AM

jujube

12-28-2007, 12:10 AM

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbx-ACdwKt4&NR=1

pause the video at 18 seconds. i think i recognize the name at #1 but it's a little blurry.

lee n

12-28-2007, 12:25 AM

:lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hbx-ACdwKt4&NR=1
pause the video at 18 seconds. i think i recognize the name at #1 but it's a little blurry.

Looks like it says caffeineTC

caffeine

12-28-2007, 02:04 AM

wow, i can't believe people still haven't figured out how to score high on cascade. the way the goal system works, it's best to make quadra-type clears when you have two goal lines left. you can watch the replay, too. but everyone's still at 6xxk. that's so messed up.

DumbledorsArmy

12-28-2007, 03:11 AM

Yeah that's mine. And I know I abused the hell out of infinity spins, so be gentle. People already bitch at me about it..... I was waiting for somebody to post something regarding that video. I didn't post anything about it because I know how people feel about spinning like that.

At least it looks more impressive than triforces.

caffeine

12-28-2007, 04:09 AM

i don't have any gripe with it dumbledors. that's just the way the game's constructed. if anything annoys me, it's that you spinned t's on the right side. it makes more sense under high speeds to do it on the left.

DumbledorsArmy

12-28-2007, 04:35 AM

You know I suck a trying to do it on the left side. I can swing tetrises left, right, middle wherever, but not t~spins..... Of course I never even knew how to stack b2b t~spins untill about 2 months after Evolution came out...

caffeine

12-28-2007, 04:38 AM

you just got to give yourself more of a chance. remember the only reason you have that bias is because you learned on the right side probably. it's just a matter of a couple day's practice.

not like it's a big deal or anything, but that's the kind of attitude i try to get people to have when learning how to use both rotations and stuff.

DumbledorsArmy

12-28-2007, 05:06 AM

I know what you mean..... It's hard to break old habits. Maybe that will be the next thing I tackle. I've been playing Splash lately without using the hold option. Don't know why, I just started playing like that the other day.

I really need to start playing some of the versions of tetris that everyone plays in here. I use to play a little TGM several years ago. I jsut got away from the computer and into consoles.... Now I'm starting to get the urge to play some of those games.....

DIGITAL

12-28-2007, 06:32 AM

all i know is that's like 10 times more impressive than triforce's video. ST stacking is much harder than stacking for tetrises, and DumbledorsArmy keeps it going for a long time.

here's the video from triforce if anyone hasn't seen it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9ynLnGkIiY

at 1:40
Triforce - "three times in a row."
Onlooker - "that's nasty...that's nasty."

I agree with jujube. Even with all the infinity abuse, it's still damn impressive to keep ST going for that long. You also have to consider that he has only 2 previews to work with so playing fast is quite wreckless without proper analysis.

muf

12-28-2007, 07:46 AM

I agree with jujube. Even with all the infinity abuse, it's still damn impressive to keep ST going for that long. You also have to consider that he has only 2 previews to work with so playing fast is quite wreckless without proper analysis.

Yeah, my only criticism was about the use of the word "perfect". Compliments on you taking it so well, DumbledorsArmy. It's a true gentleman's response http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif. That said, if you're looking for TGM-style tetris, give Heboris (http://mufunyo.net/tetris/HeborisUE_C7V4EX_C++_20071124.zip) a try. If you're stuck in SRS habits you might want to start off with Ti-World rotations, but if you're feeling adventurous, you can dive straight in with Heboris rotations (equivalent to TGM T.A. Plus).

Monte

12-28-2007, 08:21 AM

I'm just glad that all gaming communities share a dislike for TFGM. He has no skillz, Empire Arcadia sucks and he thinks he's hot stuff for giving people dead end jobs at a broke ass gamestop store.

DumbledorsArmy

12-28-2007, 10:38 AM

Thanks everyone. The only reason I used perfect was that I couldn't think of a better work at the time. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif The thing that sucks if I'm gonna start playing what I refer to as 'hardcore tetris' is that I only have either a 360 or a PS2 controller to work with. I'd really love to get a decent arcade stick at some point; you need something large to take your aggression out on while playing.

DIGITAL

12-28-2007, 10:56 AM

OR..........you can use a keyboard. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

DumbledorsArmy

12-28-2007, 10:59 AM

I wish I could. I've tried to use a keyboard for years and it just doesn't want to take with me

caffeine

12-28-2007, 11:43 AM

you'd probably feel just as noobish with a arcade stick as you would a keyboard at first, if not more. once again, the couple day's practice thingy...

best arcade stick ever. (http://www.keytronic.com/home/products/specs/e03601p1.htm)

jujube

12-28-2007, 11:48 AM

best arcade stick ever. (http://www.keytronic.com/home/products/specs/e03601p1.htm)

looks complicated.

muf

12-28-2007, 05:41 PM

best arcade stick ever. (http://www.keytronic.com/home/products/specs/e03601p1.htm)

Hell no. (http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/20188/subcatid/0/id/243722)

lee n

12-28-2007, 05:48 PM

http://www.iplayplaystation.com/wp-content/uploads/virtua-stick-high-grade.jpg

tepples

12-28-2007, 06:01 PM

best arcade stick ever. (http://www.keytronic.com/home/products/specs/e03601p1.htm)

How many players per machine does it support?

caffeine

12-28-2007, 06:56 PM

best arcade stick ever. (http://www.keytronic.com/home/products/specs/e03601p1.htm)
Hell no. (http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/20188/subcatid/0/id/243722)i've heard really good things about those, but that one's used. and hell, if you're going to pay that much for a keyboard, then get this one (http://www.steelseries.com/int/products/keyboards/7g/information)

Phydeaux

12-28-2007, 10:56 PM

I never see any of you on Splash. Can we has a gamertag repository?

muf

12-29-2007, 02:10 AM

i've heard really good things about those, but that one's used.
I've got two, one beige, and one black. Got them for free from a friend who got a bunch of them cause the company he worked at was ditching them in favour of new hardware. Whenever someone even so much as mentions the words "DELL keyboard" I see if I can get one off them. They're among the best mechanical switch keyboards, and they have windows keys.
and hell, if you're going to pay that much for a keyboard, then get this one (http://www.steelseries.com/int/products/keyboards/7g/information)

18K Gold plated connectors? �130? That's just gimmicky stuff for people with too much money, akin to some so-called "audiophile" sound sets that any audio expert wouldn't go near with a 10ft pole. My advice: go round some second hand shops, try the keyboards out, if you find a good one, buy it and a spare one for you-never-know; you'll be set for life (those things never break) and it'll cost you �20 max.

DumbledorsArmy

12-29-2007, 02:15 AM

you'd probably feel just as noobish with a arcade stick as you would a keyboard at first, if not more. once again, the couple day's practice thingy...

Lol. Maybe. It has been a couple of years since I've tried to play with a keyboard. I still think that I would do better with a arcade stick vs. a keyboard.

I never see any of you on Splash. Can we has a gamertag repository?

My name in here is my name on XBL. I'm on pretty much every day for at least an hour or so.

caffeine

12-29-2007, 03:33 AM

kiwibonga

12-29-2007, 07:22 AM

That said, if you're looking for TGM-style tetris, give Heboris (http://mufunyo.net/tetris/HeborisUE_C7V4EX_C++_20071124.zip) a try.

I tried that, but for some reason I can't control anything... ',' is apparently the start button, but none of the other keys do anything... Do I need a japanese keymap to use it, or is it some other problem?

Red_Star

12-29-2007, 08:00 AM

You don't need a japanese keymap to use it so it must be another problem. Are you playing heboris original or the expansion?

muf

12-29-2007, 08:05 AM

I was referring to how those mechanical keyboards on the website were priced in the hundreds. While there's no way I'd pay that much money for any keyboard, I can see how that 7G board would have an advantage with latency, ghosting, feel, etc. anyhow, i'm pretty sure the scorpius m10 (http://www.barrys-rigs-n-reviews.com/reviews/2007/hardware/m10key/m10key.htm) rivals those old IBM M models / Dell Quietkeys.
I've never liked IBM's buckling spring switches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buckling_spring). They feel odd, and make this "toink" sound. I have one (an IBM Model M), but I don't use it. That Scorpius M10 looks like it's probably just as good as a Dell AT101W. The build looks nearly identical, it's just a bit smaller (and probably lighter; the AT101W can be wielded as an almost-lethal weapon).

I tried that, but for some reason I can't control anything... ',' is apparently the start button, but none of the other keys do anything... Do I need a japanese keymap to use it, or is it some other problem?

The default keymap should be:

Z = A

X = B

C = C

Arrows = Joystick

If something doesn't work, try deleting your CONFIG.SAV.

kiwibonga

12-29-2007, 10:23 PM

If something doesn't work, try deleting your CONFIG.SAV.

Thanks, that fixed it! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

colour_thief

01-01-2008, 11:52 PM

I'm just glad that all gaming communities share a dislike for TFGM. He has no skillz, Empire Arcadia sucks and he thinks he's hot stuff for giving people dead end jobs at a broke ass gamestop store.

Monte, if you have not seen it becfore I must point you to this thread (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=151).

Rosti LFC

01-12-2008, 03:40 AM

Pfft... all the old fashioned keyboards.

What you want is one of these (http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/default.htm). Or one of these (http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus-tactus).

I'd be scared of breaking it if I slam my hands down in frustration though.

caffeine

01-12-2008, 05:04 AM

that Optimus Tactus concept looks painful!

DIGITAL

01-12-2008, 05:29 AM

I prefer to feel pressed keys, if not clickier keys. I'd want the Optimus Tactus just for the cool factor though. Could probably put it to other uses.

Rosti LFC

01-12-2008, 07:09 AM

I think my main problem would be the fact that I usually vent frustration by whacking my keyboard when I screw up decent Tetris runs.

I'm also known to spill drinks.

evybabee

01-18-2008, 01:09 AM

hey guys-- i'm noobish i guess. to TC, at least...

i'm pretty screwed because i'm really used to using the xbox controller and analog stick now. i'd love to be able to play Heboris, TGM or similar games but i am pretty horrible at keyboard tetris. i might do better if i had this tho http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/77ba/ (http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/77ba/default.htm)

after watching all the videos and reading all you guys talk about it, i'm actually pretty obsessed about getting TGM somehow. i'd be willling to even buy the stand-up arcade game, even tho a giant machine like that would definitely clash with the decor of my apartment. i did play a lot of arcade tetris growing up, so it would have some oldschool appeal playing on a joystick again. does anyone know what the best option would be for me? would it be possible and more economical to get these games on a japanese xbox or some kind of emulator maybe? any help you could offer is appreciated. i'm jonesing pretty bad. BIG mode looks like so much fun to me!

thanks http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

caffeine

01-18-2008, 01:47 AM

real arcade setups i believe go into the thousands and are complicated to set up (i believe). if i were you, i'd play heboris or something. a lot of guys will tell you to use an arcade stick for that (one that goes to the pc). just keep in mind that while some input systems are easier to learn for tetris than others, expect a learning curb for the arcade stick just as much as for the keyboard, or your cellphone, or whatever. you may want to just learn with the keyboard at first, (which is good to know how to play tetris on anyway), and if you still play on a regular basis say in a month, then that might be a better time to start investing into some tetris gear.

i plan to eventually purchase an arcade stick, but knowing the frustrations of learning a new input system, i'm holding off until i'm confident enough even playing tgm3-style with a keyboard.

lee n

01-18-2008, 02:06 AM

i did play a lot of arcade tetris growing up, so it would have some oldschool appeal playing on a joystick again. does anyone know what the best option would be for me?

The Arcade Stick of choice here on TC seems to be the Virtua Stick High Grade (http://www.play-asia.com/SOap-23-83-162x-71-zl-49-en-84-j-70-1rjw.html) ("VSHG" for short). It's a PlayStation 3 stick but since it uses regular USB it works perfectly with computers aswell. It's expensive, but it's also very high quality.

Just search this forum for "VSHG" if you want to know more about it.

mat

01-18-2008, 02:15 AM

if you're accustomed to playing on the xbox controller, there's no reason not to just use that for heboris. i enjoy playing with the VSHG joystick a lot more than the keyboard, makes it feel much more like a "game", but i still play on both all the time. keyboard is convenient, i like being able to play a decent game regardless of where i am or what equipment i have available.

tepples

01-18-2008, 09:01 AM

i'm pretty screwed because i'm really used to using the xbox controller and analog stick now.
There are adapters to use original Xbox controllers with Lockjaw, Heboris, StepMania, or other PC games.

i'd be willling to even buy the stand-up arcade game, even tho a giant machine like that would definitely clash with the decor of my apartment.

Mas Systems makes some adapters (http://www.massystems.com/SuperNOVA.html) to plug arcade boards into a TV.

So the question is: do you adapt the hardware, or do you pretend you're in Soviet Russia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Smirnoff#Russian_reversal) and let the hardware adapt you?

colour_thief

01-18-2008, 09:12 AM

i'd be willling to even buy the stand-up arcade game, even tho a giant machine like that would definitely clash with the decor of my apartment.
Mas Systems makes some adapters (http://www.massystems.com/SuperNOVA.html) to plug arcade boards into a TV.

It's pretty easy to build your own supergun also. If you're not afraid to get your hands dirty, you could get TAP and a supergun for under $1000.

evybabee

01-19-2008, 04:04 AM

hey guys, thank you for all the advice!

i think the best option for now at least is the xbox controller. it never even occurred to me that i could use it for pc. it took me a long time to get used to the xbox analog stick (it's really bouncy, and it's easy to douple up-tap), but now that i am accustomed to it my play has improved a lot. i would have been down with the d-pad, but it's lower position on the controller makes it feel really awkward. so, i ordered the xbox pc gaming receiver. i might also want a joystick so i can play streetfighter with it too. too bad the Virtua won't work with my xbox. does anyone know of a good one that will?

i gave Cultris a shot on keyboard controls. wow, did that make me feel inadequate. i'm sure i'll do better once i can use my xbox controller. the game itself seemed pretty fun, although my only major gripes with it is that the S and Z pieces are practically the same color, other than that, it seemed like a nice little speed game. i do prefer the finesse involved with effective t-spinning tho, like in Splash multiplayer.

i'm going to try installing Heboris again, but on my pc laptop. i tried to do it on my mac desktop, but it was pretty complicated having to edit the scripts and stuff. hopefully it will be easier for my Vaio. too bad that there's no xbox adapter for the mac, but i guess that makes sense.

as for tepples' philosophical question: i'm in love with a strict machine. i guess that makes me the slave.

thanks again guys!

evy

DIGITAL

01-19-2008, 04:11 AM

i'm going to try installing Heboris again, but on my pc laptop. i tried to do it on my mac desktop, but it was pretty complicated having to edit the scripts and stuff. hopefully it will be easier for my Vaio. too bad that there's no xbox adapter for the mac, but i guess that makes sense

Have you tried the Mac SDL version? If you haven't check it out here.

http://hebo.game-host.org/upload.cgi?mode=dl&file=18

DLKey: hebo

evybabee

01-19-2008, 05:18 AM

hi digital--

that is the one i downloaded originally, but i couldn't figure out how to start the game or change the resolution or any of the options, so i gave up. i tried again just now, and found out the z button starts the game and works as rotate, but that's about it. some of it is in japanese, but i did manage to find BIG mode! would you be able to help me figure out how to change the options and screen size?

i'll have to get used to keyboard to play it, since my xbox controller won't work, but i guess it's worth a shot.. the game looks really cool!

thanks so much http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

DIGITAL

01-19-2008, 06:03 AM

Ah, good thing you got it working. First things first, you can change the input bindings in Settings>Input. The screen size can be changed in Setting. And to change the language to English, open up heboris.ini in the heboris directory and change

english = 0;toenglish = 1;
Hope that helps somewhat. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif If you run into Mac specific problems, I'm sure there are others here who could help.

cdsboy

01-19-2008, 09:21 AM

there are programs for mac to map controller keys to buttons. I did it about a year ago when i owned a mac, it works just fine with heboris.

stu

03-03-2008, 07:45 AM

Hello all, I'm new to this here forum and site (it's amazing BTW!), but thought I'd say that I'm playing Tetris Splash on a nightly basis, and would love to play some of you guys.

I've been finding it hard getting decent players to play against.

I like to conisder myself petty good at the game, although not to the standard of most of you guys!