[Lockjaw] Cascade

[herc]

if anyone likes to participate, i will maintain a list similiar to the highscorelist in the thread "Records: Lockjaw".


Mode: 40 Lines Cascade
================================================== =================
Name (Rot)Curve - Time - TPM - KPT - DD/MM/YY
================================================== =================
Ai--------------- (ARS)Zero - 00:50:13 - 122.07 - 3.50 - 18/05/09
fnord------------ (TOD)GB - 01:00:46 - 103.19 - 3.28 - 21/07/07
tepples---------- (SRS)Expo - 01:07:18 - 92.88 - 3.66 - 10/07/07
Rich Nagel------- (SRS)Expo - 01:27:20 - 71.55 - 3.91 - 29/07/07
herc------------- (ARS)Zero - 01:31:45 - 70.85 - 4.44 - 19/07/07
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00:00:00 - 000.00 - 0.00 - 00/00/00
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00:00:00 - 000.00 - 0.00 - 00/00/00
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00:00:00 - 000.00 - 0.00 - 00/00/00
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00:00:00 - 000.00 - 0.00 - 00/00/00



Mode: 180 Seconds
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Name (Rot)Curve - Score - TPM - Lines - DD/MM/YY
================================================== =================
fnord------------ (TOD) GB - 33,200 - 96.00 - 114 - 21/07/07
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00,000 - 000.00 - 000 - 00/00/00
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00,000 - 000.00 - 000 - 00/00/00
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00,000 - 000.00 - 000 - 00/00/00
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00,000 - 000.00 - 000 - 00/00/00
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00,000 - 000.00 - 000 - 00/00/00
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00,000 - 000.00 - 000 - 00/00/00
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00,000 - 000.00 - 000 - 00/00/00
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00,000 - 000.00 - 000 - 00/00/00
----------------- (SRS)Zero - 00,000 - 000.00 - 000 - 00/00/00






Mandatory Settings
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Mode: 40 Lines
Width x Height: 10 x 20
Hold piece: Empty
Clear gravity: Cascade
Garbage: None

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[herc]

Cleared 40 lines

on 2007-07-11 at 00:10

(rot=Arika, lock=Step reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Zero)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=183 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Color, next=3 pieces)


Played for 1:39.00 (active 1:30.56)

Played 122 tetrominoes (73.93 per minute,

80.82 per active minute)

Pressed 516 keys (4.22 per tetromino)


Made 40 lines

(single: 19; double: 4; triple: 1; quad: 1; x5: 0; x6: 1; x7: 0; x8+: 0)

Sent 5 garbage (3.03 per minute)

Left 88 blocks behind


LJ score: 5000

[tepples]

With an ordinary randomizer:


Cleared 40 lines

on 2007-07-10 at 19:29

(rot=SRS, lock=Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Exponential)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=150 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Faint color, next=3 pieces)


Played for 1:07.18 (active 1:01.51)

Played 104 tetrominoes (92.88 per minute,

101.43 per active minute)

Pressed 381 keys (3.66 per tetromino)


Made 40 lines

(single: 3; double: 0; triple: 3; quad: 7; x5: 0; x6: 0; x7: 0; x8+: 0)

Sent 35 garbage (31.25 per minute)

Left 12 blocks behind


LJ score: 11000



With the Double Secret Cascade Randomizer:


Cleared 40 lines

on 2007-07-10 at 19:45

(rot=SRS, lock=Move reset, rnd=SZSZ, spin=3-corner T, speed=Exponential)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=150 ms Instant, shadow=Faint color, next=3 pieces)


Played for 0:48.76 (active 0:40.76)

Played 100 tetrominoes (123.03 per minute,

147.17 per active minute)

Pressed 317 keys (3.17 per tetromino)


Made 40 lines

(single: 0; double: 20; triple: 0; quad: 0; x5: 0; x6: 0; x7: 0; x8+: 0)

Sent 0 garbage (0.00 per minute)

Left 0 blocks behind


LJ score: 4000

[jujube]

With the Double Secret Cascade Randomizer:

Left 0 blocks behind



http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif awesome

[DIGITAL]

Did a test 40 Line game with SZSZ using IRS and ended up playing over 240 tpm.


1. IRS to vertical orientation. (Keep it pressed)

2. DAS to wall (use Instant) (Keep it pressed in whichever direction)

3. Tap the hard drop key as fast as possible.


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[Rich Nagel]

(using Lockjaw v0.37)


Stopped 40 lines

on 2007-07-15 at 07:29

(rot=SRS, lock=Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Exponential)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=183 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Faint color, next=8 pieces)


Played for 1:33.28 (active 1:27.48 )

Played 99 tetrominoes (63.67 per minute,

67.89 per active minute)

Pressed 372 keys (3.75 per tetromino)


Made 23 lines

(single: 12; double: 3; triple: 0; quad: 0; x5: 1; x6: 0; x7: 0; x8+: 0)

Sent 3 garbage (1.92 per minute)

Left 162 blocks behind


LJ score: 2900

[herc]

really nice to see you playing and submitting an highscore, Rich!


but could you try to complete 40 lines? otherwise it would be unfair to add you to the above highscorelist!


nice to have some more normal tetris players here... then i am not the only one that is more fixed at the bottom of all those highscore lists here in the forum http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[fnord]

I suck at cascade.


Cleared 40 lines

on 2007-07-16 at 11:54

(rot=SRS, lock=200 ms Step reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Zero)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=183 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Color, next=8 pieces)


Played for 1:08.78 (active 1:01.51)

Played 104 tetrominoes (90.71 per minute,

101.43 per active minute)

Pressed 368 keys (3.53 per tetromino)


Made 40 lines

(single: 11; double: 4; triple: 1; quad: 2; x5: 0; x6: 0; x7: 0; x8+: 1)

Sent 20 garbage (17.44 per minute)

Left 12 blocks behind


LJ score: 8000

[tepples]

Of course, if you're going for a time record, you don't have to actually use the cascades.

[fnord]

Why are cascades slow? It seems like 8+ line clears would be better for time, since bigger line clears means clearing lines less times, and you'd have to go through clear delay less. Though it seems to take longer for the stacked I tetrominoes to fall into the hole to clear lines than hard dropping would.


Cleared 40 lines

on 2007-07-16 at 14:40

(rot=SRS, lock=450 ms Step reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Zero)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=183 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Color, next=8 pieces)


Played for 1:02.05 (active 0:54.66)

Played 102 tetrominoes (98.63 per minute,

111.95 per active minute)

Pressed 336 keys (3.29 per tetromino)


Made 40 lines

(single: 7; double: 0; triple: 4; quad: 1; x5: 2; x6: 0; x7: 1; x8+: 0)

Sent 22 garbage (21.27 per minute)

Left 4 blocks behind


LJ score: 8400


Only a few seconds slower than my naive gravity time. Without SZSZ, there doesn't seem to be much of a difference.

[Rich Nagel]

really nice to see you playing and submitting an highscore, Rich!

but could you try to complete 40 lines? otherwise it would be unfair to add you to the above highscorelist!


OH MAN! (Rich slaps head with hand... DOH <LOL>!!!) I copied and pasted the wrong score from my LJ-Scores.txt file :doh:


Disreguard my previous post, I'll have to play again and post the __correct__ time.

[Rich Nagel]

The *correct* score data (LJ v0.37):



Cleared 40 lines

on 2007-07-17 at 04:45

(rot=SRS, lock=Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Exponential)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=183 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Faint color, next=8 pieces)


Played for 1:35.55 (active 1:27.93)

Played 105 tetrominoes (65.93 per minute,

71.64 per active minute)

Pressed 387 keys (3.68 per tetromino)


Made 40 lines

(single: 14; double: 3; triple: 4; quad: 2; x5: 0; x6: 0; x7: 0; x8+: 0)

Sent 8 garbage (5.02 per minute)

Left 20 blocks behind


LJ score: 5600

[herc]

no problem! such things happen http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif just keep playing - its addictive http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

by the way: do you have any interest in blockout? Jean Luc Pons, programmer of blockout II, currently adds some skinning to his blockout game. he asked for some ideas and / or good textures etc...


http://zelda38.free.fr/BlockOut/shot.png


forum thread:


http://www.blockout.net/index.php?optio ... id=103#103 (http://www.blockout.net/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=27&func=view&catid=8&id=103#103)


if you have something at hand, would be nice if you could post in above thread.

[Rich Nagel]

by the way: do you have any interest in blockout? Jean Luc Pons, programmer of blockout II, currently adds some skinning to his blockout game.

I've never played Blockout much before, but the game looks quite interesting. What are the minimum system requirements (would it run on my archaic 233 or 500 mhz PCs?).


he asked for some ideas and / or good textures etc... if you have something at hand, would be nice if you could post in above thread.


I don't really have anything floating around on my hard drive per-say (all of my LJ skins I either create from scratch using PSP, or chop out of screenies of the various original Tetris games' versions), but feel free to use/edit anything from any of my skins for Blockout if you (or Jean) wish -:)


Anyhow, I'll have to check out B2, dunno if it will run on these aging clunkers though <G>.

[herc]

I've never played Blockout much before, but the game looks quite interesting. What are the minimum system requirements (would it run on my archaic 233 or 500 mhz PCs?).


oh that would be really cool to know! could you please make a test? but you need directX, what windows version runs on your machines?

anyway - if you find some time to try out blockout II, please let us know how it was running on your lower end (as of today) computers.


and for the beginning, try out 3x3x10 flat mode, this is nearly identical to normal tetris, as you only need to rotate around 1 axis, i.e. good to get started with 3d tetris and get into the game.

[Rich Nagel]

oh that would be really cool to know! could you please make a test? but you need directX, what windows version runs on your machines?

I'm running Windows 98SE on all PCs, as well as DirectX v8 (if the game requires v9, that will be a no-go, as it's incompatable with my aging hardware).


anyway - if you find some time to try out blockout II, please let us know how it was running on your lower end (as of today) computers.


Will do -:)

[Rich Nagel]

Trimmed off a few secs -:)

(LJ v0.37)


Cleared 40 lines

on 2007-07-18 at 23:56

(rot=SRS, lock=Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Exponential)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=183 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Faint color, next=8 pieces)


Played for 1:28.00 (active 1:20.23)

Played 103 tetrominoes (70.22 per minute,

77.02 per active minute)

Pressed 396 keys (3.84 per tetromino)


Made 40 lines

(single: 17; double: 2; triple: 3; quad: 1; x5: 0; x6: 1; x7: 0; x8+: 0)

Sent 7 garbage (4.77 per minute)

Left 12 blocks behind


LJ score: 5400



(Edit) re: BlockOut II - No joy... unfortunately the game crashes/locks up Windows hard as a rock on both my W98SE PCs -:(



(Edit #2) Trimmed off even a few more secs... see score data above -:)

[herc]

@rich nagel: thank you ver much, i will report that problem to the blockout II programmer!



and - nice highscore !! i will soon start playing again - with some luck eventually i will beat you http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif

[Rich Nagel]

and - nice highscore !! i will soon start playing again - with some luck eventually i will beat you http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif


Hehe, I think a lot of it has to do with luck <G>. I don't know what it is about cascade mode, but I myself don't stand nary a chance in any of the other game modes (re: the other LJ records threads). My best times for standard gravity 40-line mode don't even come close to the ones posted in the other thread, and compared to those records, my meager times are almost embarrising to post <LOL>... my brain simply doesn't work that fast <LOL>!


Imagine my surprise to find that I could actually be competative in cascade mode (at least right now, before other folks have posted their best times)... the only explaination is sheer luck <G> - or rather, the physics of that mode -:)

[herc]

@rich: i am approaching you http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

Cleared 40 lines

on 2007-07-19 at 20:36

(rot=Arika, lock=Step reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Zero)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=183 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Color, next=3 pieces)


Played for 1:31.45 (active 1:22.81)

Played 108 tetrominoes (70.85 per minute,

78.24 per active minute)

Pressed 480 keys (4.44 per tetromino)


Made 41 lines

(single: 14; double: 10; triple: 1; quad: 1; x5: 0; x6: 0; x7: 0; x8+: 0)

Sent 1 garbage (0.65 per minute)

Left 22 blocks behind


LJ score: 4300

[fnord]

Cleared 40 lines

on 2007-07-21 at 13:03

(rot=TOD M4, lock=500 ms Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=Off, speed=Game Boy)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=183 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Color, next=8 pieces)


Played for 1:00.46 (active 0:53.98)

Played 104 tetrominoes (103.19 per minute,

115.59 per active minute)

Pressed 342 keys (3.28 per tetromino)


Made 40 lines

(single: 9; double: 5; triple: 3; quad: 3; x5: 0; x6: 0; x7: 0; x8+: 0)

Sent 21 garbage (20.83 per minute)

Left 12 blocks behind


LJ score: 8200


herc, why not keep track of records for 180 seconds mode too?

If you'll do it, here's mine


Cleared 180 seconds

on 2007-07-21 at 13:38

(rot=TOD M4, lock=500 ms Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=Off, speed=Game Boy)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=183 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Color, next=8 pieces)


Played for 3:00.00 (active 2:44.23)

Played 288 tetrominoes (96.00 per minute,

105.21 per active minute)

Pressed 1023 keys (3.55 per tetromino)


Made 114 lines

(single: 2; double: 7; triple: 4; quad: 19; x5: 2; x6: 0; x7: 0; x8+: 0)

Sent 109 garbage (36.33 per minute)

Left 4 blocks behind


LJ score: 33200


Not so impressive. I found that I get a higher score when I just go for tetrises and not 8+s.

[tepples]

LJ score: 33200

Not so impressive. I found that I get a higher score when I just go for tetrises and not 8+s.

That's because some of the scoring curves don't have special programming for cascade mode.

[fnord]

Huh... I feel pretty stupid now. I'd think LJ would be one of the ones that reward 5+ line clears differently. Is TNT64 the only one that does? If that's the case, maybe the records should be kept in TNT64 scoring since highscores in cascade mode with a scoring system that discourages actually using cascades... seems kinda counter-intuitive.


Cleared 180 seconds

on 2007-07-21 at 22:50

(rot=TOD M4, lock=500 ms Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=Off, speed=Game Boy)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=183 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Color, next=8 pieces)


Played for 3:00.00 (active 2:44.58)

Played 281 tetrominoes (93.66 per minute,

102.44 per active minute)

Pressed 986 keys (3.50 per tetromino)


Made 105 lines

(single: 6; double: 4; triple: 1; quad: 11; x5: 0; x6: 0; x7: 2; x8+: 3)

Sent 0 garbage (0.00 per minute)

Left 66 blocks behind


TNT64 score: 24900

[Rich Nagel]

Shaved off another miniscule fraction of a second (I think this is about my limit... short of an extreme amount of luck for a MASSIVE cascade, this is about as fast as my brain can possibly operate <G>).


Cleared 40 lines

on 2007-07-27 at 05:17

(rot=SRS, lock=Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Exponential)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=183 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Faint color, next=8 pieces)


Played for 1:27.76 (active 1:19.96)

Played 103 tetrominoes (70.41 per minute,

77.28 per active minute)

Pressed 393 keys (3.81 per tetromino)


Made 40 lines

(single: 16; double: 9; triple: 2; quad: 0; x5: 0; x6: 0; x7: 0; x8+: 0)

Sent 5 garbage (3.41 per minute)

Left 12 blocks behind


LJ score: 5000

[Rich Nagel]

Trimmed off another half a sec:


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Cleared 40 lines

on 2007-07-29 at 08:20

(rot=SRS, lock=Move reset, rnd=7-piece Bag, spin=3-corner T, speed=Exponential)

(grav=Cascade, drop=None, are=0 ms, das=183 ms 1G (60 Hz), shadow=Faint color, next=8 pieces)


Played for 1:27.20 (active 1:19.58)

Played 104 tetrominoes (71.55 per minute,

78.40 per active minute)

Pressed 407 keys (3.91 per tetromino)


Made 40 lines

(single: 17; double: 2; triple: 5; quad: 1; x5: 0; x6: 0; x7: 0; x8+: 0)

Sent 7 garbage (4.81 per minute)

Left 16 blocks behind


LJ score: 5400


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[Ai]

Result:

Cleared 40 lines at level 40
on 2009-05-18 at 00:16
Played 102 tetrominoes in 0:50.13 (122.07/min)
(active time only: 0:45.18, 135.44/min)
Pressed 358 keys (3.50/piece)

Made 40 lines
(single: 15; double: 6; triple: 3; quad: 1; 5L: 0; 6L: 0; 7L: 0; 8L+: 0)
Sent 15 garbage (17.95 per minute)
Left 4 blocks behind

LJ score: 7000
Options

Well: 10x20, Enter: Above
Speed: Zero, ARE: 0 ms
Randomizer: History 6 rolls of Tetrominoes
Hold: On, empty, Rotation: Arika
Lock: Move reset, Deep: Off
Line clear: 0 ms Cascade, Gluing: Off
Drop score: None, T-spin: 3-corner T
Garbage: Off, DAS: 116 ms 1G
Soft drop: 1G Slide, Hard drop: Lock
Shadow: Color, Next: 1
I was curious about the last thread in the records section. It looked interesting so I gave it a try. Sorry for bumping this back to the first page... ^^