[Ti] Master

[muf]

So now that there's a few players here that play this, I thought it would be time for a leaderboard.

--Provisional Ranking--
CLASSIC RULE
Rank--Name----------------Grade - Lvl @ Time - Date - ST AC CO SK - Notes

================================================== ================================================== ==================

1--KevinDDR---------------MM - 999 @ 05:27:91 - 06/11/11 - SI BR SI -
2--colour_thief-----------MO - 999 @ 05:50:91 - 12/06/09 - SI BR SI - ct's
3--Kitaru-----------------MO - 999 @ 06:21:35 - 11/14/11 - GO BR SI - SouthTown Arcade ;3
4--K----------------------MV - 999 @ 06:22:01 - 04/10/11 - -
5--Amnesia----------------MK - 999 @ 05:51:35 - 01/19/12 - SI GO -
6--mat--------------------MK - 999 @ 05:55:73 - 04/??/11 - SI GO -
7--nahucirujano-----------MK - 999 @ 06:10:28 - 10/16/11 - GO SI -
8--TWF-------------------- M - 999 @ 06:07:53 - 07/27/11 - SI SI - Fastest m9 in 05:40:21
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
9--Edo--------------------m9 - 999 @ 05:08:66 - ??/??/10 - GO GO - Suicided staff roll
10--Rosti LFC--------------m8 - 999 @ 06:39:30 - 09/30/09 - GO BR - muf's
11--DeHackEd---------------m6 - 999 @ 07:11:30 - 10/31/09 - BR - ct's
12--SWR--------------------m6 - 999 @ 07:13:76 - 11/20/10 - SI BR - Arcade Infinity
13--[-Steve-]--------------m6 - 999 @ 07:15:30 - 11/08/11 - GO BR BR - Steve... using red I blocks...???
14--clincher---------------m4 - 999 @ 07:02:75 - 07/13/11 - GO BR -
15--Billmaan---------------m3 - 838 @ ??:??:?? - 07/02/11 - GO BR - time at death 06:43:21
16--Qlex-------------------m1 - 877 @ 07:18:73 - 07/24/11 - BR -
17--m.kevin----------------m1 - 942 @ ??:??:?? - 11/06/11 - GO BR
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
18--Kasumi-----------------S9 - 734 @ 05:12:46 - 10/10/11 - SI BR
19--steadshot--------------S9 - 845 @ 07:36:31 - 07/22/11 - GO -
20--cyberguile-------------S7 - 773 @ 05:14:26 - 07/26/11 - -
21--mufunyo----------------S6 - 627 @ 05:09:35 - 08/19/09 - BR BR - muf's
22--The Enigmatic Form-----S6 - 618 @ 05:38:71 - 10/24/10 - GO BR - TEF's
23--Budster----------------S5 - 547 @ 04:30:86 - 07/17/11 - GO BR -
24--tada-------------------S5 - 642 @ 05:56:46 - 02/28/09 - - Acme
25--Samael-----------------S5 - 699 @ ??:??:?? - 04/17/11 - -
26--Ray Ayanami------------S4 - 538 @ 03:48:73 - 12/05/10 - GO - shmupmeet
27--merpy------------------S4 - 538 @ 04:56:95 - 12/06/09 - BR - ct's
28--Meroigo----------------S4 - 568 @ 05:22:70 - 12/30/09 - BR - KING near Kyoto Station
29--Ineluctable_Entropy-----2 - 428 @ 05:27:23 - 09/??/11 - -

--Qualified Ranking--
CLASSIC RULE
Rank--Name----------------Grade - Lvl @ Time - Date - ST AC CO SK - Notes

================================================== ================================================== ==================

1--KevinDDR---------------MM - 999 @ 05:59:33 - 12/26/10 - SI GO
2--mat-------------------- M - 999 @ 06:21:25 - 06/13/11 - BR GO
3--K---------------------- M - 999 @ 06:28:86 - 01/19/12 - SI GO - <@[]> fjedfjeofjedfj
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4--colour_thief-----------m9 - 999 @ 06:17:95 - 02/28/09 - SI BR GO
5--Amnesia----------------m9 - 999 @ 06:20:25 - 02/20/11 - SI SI
6--nahucirujano-----------m8 - 999 @ 06:11:35 - 09/16/11 - SI SI
7--TWF--------------------m8 - 999 @ 06:33:21 - 08/02/11 - SI SI SI
8--Rosti LFC--------------m4 - ??? @ ??:??:?? - ??/??/11 - SI GO
9--[-Steve-]--------------m2 - 999 @ 07:23:26 - 11/08/11 - SI BR
10--SWR--------------------m1 - ??? @ ??:??:?? - 11/20/10 - - Arcade Infinity
12--Qlex-------------------s8 - ??? @ ??:??:?? - ??/??/11 -
13--m.kevin----------------S6 - 642 @ 05:13:76 - 08/29/11 - GO BR
14--DeHackEd---------------S6 - 789 @ 06:19:71 - 11/24/08 - - ct's
15--Billmaan---------------s5 - ??? @ ??:??:?? - 07/02/11 -
16--cyberguile-------------S4 - 604 @ ??:??:?? - 08/22/10 - - Strasbourg
17--mufunyo----------------S4 - 522 @ 04:42:18 - 01/17/09 - - FINALLY!
18--Budster----------------S4 - 555 @ 05:06:48 - 07/17/11 - SI
19--merpy------------------S2 - 512 @ 05:50:35 - 07/22/09 - BR - ct's
--Provisional Ranking--
WORLD RULE

Rank--Name----------------Grade - Lvl @ Time - Date - ST AC CO SK - Notes

================================================== ================================================== ==================

1--[-Steve-]--------------Gm - 999 @ 06:16:11 - 10/16/11 - SI GO - Qualified Gm
2--KevinDDR---------------MM - 999 @ 05:57:75 - 03/07/11 - GO GO - Qualified Gm
3--Amnesia----------------MK - 999 @ 06:11:85 - 04/16/11 - SI GO
4--mat-------------------- M - 999 @ 06:48:15 - 04/06/11 - GO GO
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
5--Kasumi-----------------m7 - 999 @ 07:09:21 - 10/10/11 - GO SI
6--The Enigmatic Form-----S4 - 613 @ 05:53:30 - 12/15/08 - GO BR
--Qualified Ranking--
WORLD RULE
Rank--Name----------------Grade - Lvl @ Time - Date - ST AC CO SK - Line - Notes

================================================== ================================================== ==================

1--[-Steve-]--------------Gm - 999 @ 05:58:91 - 09/14/11 - SI GO
2--KevinDDR---------------Gm - 999 @ 06:30:55 - 09/13/11 - BR GO
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
3--Amnesia----------------m9 - 999 @ 06:16:98 - 04/07/11 - GO SI
4--Kasumi-----------------m1 - 874 @ 06:30:06 - 10/10/11 - SI BR


Ranking goes by grade, then line, then time, then level. For the qualified ranking, a record with level/time information tie-breaks a record lacking that information.

[muf]

Okay, I'll start off with my S4 and Jago's m2 (he's probably done better since, but this is his Ti ranking as he sent it to me a couple months ago). I would post my qualified grade 2 as well, but I didn't get a shot of the game level, time, etc, so I only know it's grade 2.

[cdsboy]

now... if only i had a Ti to get a score with...

[Amnesia]

One of me and c_t, but for both of us, it is totally outdated.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6392/tgm3m2qe6.jpg

I will ask to an administrator that he remove the Global TI master leaderboard, if you decide from know to keep the responsability of this one..

[caffeine]

I will ask to an administrator that he remove the Global TI master leaderboard, if you decide from know to keep the responsability of this one..

Deleting any topic other than spam is discouraged.

[Amnesia]

It was only with a good intention for a better organisation..

[muf]

Don't worry Amnesia, just let the thread get bumped down by inactivity, it'll be forgotten as long as nobody bumps it back up.

[colour_thief]

Why not lock it?

[LOst]

ct shows crazy skills reaching 999. Do I see an orange line too? If so it should be added to the leaderboard as well.

[muf]

Guys, it's quiet out here in the qualified rankings, post some photos! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[lee n]

I hate you.

[colour_thief]

Level and clear time etc don't make a lot of sense for the qualified table. At any rate, my best is m3, though I've since been demoted to m2.

[muf]

Level and clear time etc don't make a lot of sense for the qualified table. At any rate, my best is m3, though I've since been demoted to m2.
Next time you get a promotion try to shoot a photo of it, it's just more fun that way http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif.

[Amnesia]

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/49/amnarsm4ib5.jpg

[Amnesia]

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1672/amnsrsm4fe7.jpg

[DeHackEd]

Qualified S4, though I know I've made S6. You've seen my ranking screens, and my qualified grade is seen in my youtube vids easily. I don't have any screen shots though.

[Amnesia]

muf, I am S8 qualified.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
And c_t is m4..

[muf]

Now you wonder, why would you post a record of the same grade with a slightly higher level and a much slower time? Well, my dear friends, I missed a lot of cools here, yet I still got S4. This means, that even though I was playing slower (with loud music and bad concentration), I was stacking better and getting more combos and tetrises. I feel that S5 is coming closer!

[mushroom]

if you can nail all the section cools and survive less-than-half to all of section 500 depending on how well you've been stacking, then s5 is pretty much guaranteed. so keep on truckin' muffin

[muf]

if you can nail all the section cools and survive less-than-half to all of section 500 depending on how well you've been stacking, then s5 is pretty much guaranteed. so keep on truckin' muffin
That's what I was thinking as well. I just need to throw down a serious run with the same kind of stacking and I should have S5 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

And more proof that my stacking has improved:


Two SKill medals!

[colour_thief]

About time I started posting images in here.

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1600/dscf0591re6.jpg
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3958/dscf0592eb8.jpg

[mushroom]

three m7+ games in a day? that is some staggering consistency. get a Master grade and you'll be my hero

[colour_thief]

I think I had 2 slower m7 ranks that got bumped off the daily list, and I'm pretty sure I passed the m5 and m6 qualification tests with m7+ as well. Besides that I had maybe 1 or 2 m6 ranks, and then that's pretty much all I played that day. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif After exclusively playing Shirase for the last while, I feel quite strong coming back to Master. Finally the maximum speed doesn't apply much pressure to me anymore, and I'm finding I can always reach 999 (barring the rare catastrophic misdrop).

I don't think I've fully brought my Master records up to date with my Shirase record, so I'll definitely be trying for a Master rank in the near future. I just have to perform decently in the main game and credits together.

[colour_thief]

I played maybe another perhaps 6 games and made some progress...

A slightly faster m9. Still not the M that I really want, but I'll take it.
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/4079/dscf0613su5.jpg

And qualified m8! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6104/dscf0612tr0.jpg

Maybe muf will even update the topic this time! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[mushroom]

oh ct you're just so skilled *swoon*

[muf]

Maybe muf will even update the topic this time! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif

[muf]

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(http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC03877.JPG)

Qualified in a single attempt! I've been consistently getting S3 games all evening. I was hoping I could get an S3 exam on the same day but I got tired and drove into misdrop city, and turned off the machine for the day.

EDIT: When I said "turned off the machine for the day", obviously, I meant until midnight, because now it's officially the next day, right? Right? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

New S4 record (faster time):


[url=http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC03890.JPG] (http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC03889.JPG)

[Rosti LFC]

Keep going muf! Won't be long before you're on the all-time leaderboard of your own machine http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[muf]

Keep going muf!
Who said I wasn't going to? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

Finally my Ti machine acknowledged my superior play and after a couple of S4 games it gave me the S3 exam.



The shaky photo pretty much captures my excitement; I made an epic misdrop at the end of section 5, and only barely passed the section border before topping out. At this point, I was completely sure that I failed the exam, and was caught entirely off guard when the roulette stopped at "??"! I scrambled to take a photo but I could only manage to take a picture of the endgame stats as they were just appearing.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Hi guys,

I´m new here. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

I´m mainly into vs-fighters, but I decided that I needed something different which I can also play alone. As I stumbled across a few videos of the TGM series a few weeks ago, I wanted to give Tetris a shot. Have not played one since the classic GameBoy one. I was fascinated by the flexibility of the rotation system, and also the hold piece and the three piece preview of TI. Of course, TI is too expensive to just try it out, so I bought Sega Tetris for the Naomi first which I liked, but it was a bit too old school for my taste. So I decided to to drop many bucks on TI, but I don´t regret it. Received it friday last week.

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/5449/tetrisvw2.jpg

I have earned my fair share of regrets until now. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
Got quickly promoted to Rank 4, but that was all until now. Receive Rank 3 every now and then, and just Rank 2 a few minutes ago.

I also have a few questions: which medals do exist (I know of Section Time), and what do the coloured lines mean in the highscore table? Also, what is the difference between provisional and qualified? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif
Is qualified only the games in which you play for a promotion?

[mushroom]

Firstly, congrats on getting Ti!

Medals are ST, SK, AC, CO for section time, number of tetrises, number of bravos and highest combo.

No line means no clear. Green line means 999 was reached and orange line means 999 was reached and the credit roll was cleared.

Provisional means a non-promotional exam grade. Qualification means a promotional exam grade.

[tepples]

I also have a few questions: which medals do exist (I know of Section Time)
The wiki should have this info. In one TGM game, there's a medal just for rotating; you can increase your chance of getting this just by IRSing all your O pieces (for which rotation has no effect outside block-colored games such as Bombliss and Tetris DS vs. with items).

Also, what is the difference between provisional and qualified? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_redface.gif
Is qualified only the games in which you play for a promotion?
As I understand it, yes. But then I just read the forum and the wiki; I don't leave near a Ti machine.


EDIT: incorporate correction from mushroom

[mushroom]

RE and RO are not in Ti.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Thanks guys, this helps me alot!

Now that you say it, yes, the medal information is in the wiki, but I only read the TI article. Should have searched anyway, sorry.

Now all I need to do is to become better. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[muf]

Well, you're not that bad http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif 2nd place on the World rule leaderboard http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[Rosti LFC]

I think that's probably the most awesome first post for a member that this forum shall ever see...

Man I wish I had Ti http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

[timc]

wow.

[KevinDDR]

First day man! No way man!

Ti is fun.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k25/KevinDDR/Tetris%20The%20Grand%20Master%203/IMG_0707-1.jpg

[gila]

*sigh*...

[LOst]

999.... gah. Ti World.
I guess it is a little bit easier http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif Anyway congratulations!

[Amnesia]

It would be easier yeah..If these fucking input was not reversed.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif

[DIGITAL]

It would be easier yeah..If these fucking input was not reversed.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif
Unless you only use two rotation buttons in which case you can just shift your fingers.
Or even better, if your brain somehow is wired so that the inputs are naturally reversed.

I'm sort of a hybrid of both using only two rotations but my brain naturally reverses the rotations. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Amnesia]

It is the up and down which are horrible..
I would have break the Torikan 10 times on the c_t's machine otherwise.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif

[DIGITAL]

It is the up and down which are horrible..
I would have break the Torikan 10 times on the c_t's machine otherwise.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_evil.gif
Ah true, on a joystick, I can see how that would be painful. On the keyboard, it's just a mere vertical shift of my finger. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[KevinDDR]

I'm only playing a lot of World because the stick on the cabinet currently sucks too much for me to create a Classic-only account. Stupid stiff unwieldy bat sticks!

[KevinDDR]

Good thing I didn't stop playing World yet...the sticks felt a bit better today for some reason:

EDIT: Right click and "View Image" to see the full thing. I forgot to resize.

http://dhe.execulink.com/tetrismaster.jpg

That is all. I'll try for MV or something before the new Sanwas get here and I play Classic again.

[LOst]

Master on a crappy stick. So unfair http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

I have to wait and see what you can perform on classic. It will be interesting!

[Amnesia]

oh.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

[muf]

Oh I am back in business baby! Under the enjoyment of a nice cuppa I've put down this performance:

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Play data:

[url=http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC04010.JPG] (http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC04011.JPG)

I'll update my sig tomorrow.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Didn´t have much time to play in the last few weeks, but improved a little anyway:

Master: 5:16:25, Level 530, Class 1, ST Gold, SK Bronze

Don´t have my camera atm, hope it gets accepted anyway.

I break the Torikan very regularly now, the speed overwhelms me, but I play now more solid at any speed, I think I can reach S1 soon.

BTW, of course the speeds of Classic and World are not directly comparable, but in which one are the more faster times possible? Usually I see better records in Classic, but that could be because of the fact that more people play Classic. I´m too used to World atm, so Classic somehow feels big and chunky, especially the different lock behaviour is confusing.

As a little bonus, I noted the records of my Ti before I deleted them, perhaps they are of interest for you.
THEY ARE NOT MY RECORDS!

Total Coin: 3269
Total Play Time: 282:24:23
Avery Play Time: 5:19

All records by player "223"

Master Classic Level 999 5:24:51 Mk

Master World Level 999 7:21:50 m7

Shirase Classic Level 1300 5:44:15 (forgot to note the Class)

Shirase World Level 327 2:06:21

[jujube]

BTW, of course the speeds of Classic and World are not directly comparable, but in which one are the more faster times possible? Usually I see better records in Classic, but that could be because of the fact that more people play Classic.
this is a good point, and something that isn't mentioned very often when comparing the potential speeds of world and classic. i don't at all want to get into which system i think is faster, but it's true that Japanese players have been playing with sega rotation for up to 20 years, while SRS/world rotation is much newer, and surely the strong TGM players have spent less time playing it.

[colour_thief]

BTW, of course the speeds of Classic and World are not directly comparable, but in which one are the more faster times possible? Usually I see better records in Classic, but that could be because of the fact that more people play Classic. I´m too used to World atm, so Classic somehow feels big and chunky, especially the different lock behaviour is confusing.

The no-bs answer to this question to this question is that World lets you play much slower if you want to, but both systems can go blazing fast when you're good with them. As for the absolute theoretical fastest, it's really impossible to make that call but I think most players feel Classic has a slight 20G edge and World has a slight 0G edge.

Oh and thanks for sharing those records. Shirase actually has dead simple grading... That 1300 has got to be S13.

[The Enigmatic Form]

I reached S1 today, but with an absolutely horrible time (about 10 minutes), so I won´t post it yet. My goal was to survive as long as possible, so I made nearly only one liners as soon as it got really fast, I make many avoidable mistakes at the real high speeds.

The no-bs answer to this question to this question is that World lets you play much slower if you want to, but both systems can go blazing fast when you're good with them. As for the absolute theoretical fastest, it's really impossible to make that call but I think most players feel Classic has a slight 20G edge and World has a slight 0G edge.

Personally I, the Tetris n00b that I am, can actually say that Classic and World feel very different, but I can´t describe why. In the wiki is a table for the delay times, would they be different for World? Of course I know that the pieces spawn in a different rotation, and that the lock behaviour is different, pieces should/must be locked manually after a fast drop in Classic, which isn´t necessary in World (or it doesn´t make such a big difference, I´m not sure).

[colour_thief]

The delays are the same for both systems. But the rest of your observations are accurate. Pretty much everthing that can be different is different between the 2 systems:

The initial orientations are different.
The basic rotations are different.
The wallkicks are really really different.
The lock delay reset mechanism is different.
The fast drop/slow drop behaviours are different.
Not to mention cosmetic details like the piece colours and textures...

For now I wouldn't worry about it. Stick with what you're comfortable with (World) and maybe move to Classic when you feel like something a little more hardcore.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Ah, I see, thanks. I noticed all of the differences you mentioned at one point or another, but I thought that there must be some more to it. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif

Actually, I didn´t think about switching to Classic - I just want to understand how the game works. Haven´t been so hooked on a game for a long time, I love it, although it can be very frustrating at times.

Just one more question: is my observation true that I don´t need to lock the piece manually after a hard drop?

[DIGITAL]

Just one more question: is my observation true that I don´t need to lock the piece manually after a hard drop?
Yep, with World, that is the case. On this forum, hard drop is considered the "fast" drop that locks. Firm drop (the one in Classic) is the "fast" drop that doesn't lock.

[The Enigmatic Form]

6:47:80, Level 576, Class S1, ST Silver, SK Bronze

But this probably reflects my improvement better:

4:40:51, Level 381, Class 1, ST Silver, SK Bronze


Does anyone of you also play Shirase? I tried it today to practice 20G, and although it is really fun IF something works out, I tend to panic nearly all the time, hehe. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
It is especially hard to consciously stack in a way that pieces don´t get stuck during a shift.

[muf]

6:47:80, Level 576, Class S1, ST Silver, SK Bronze

But this probably reflects my improvement better:

4:40:51, Level 381, Class 1, ST Silver, SK Bronze

For the record, that is World, not Classic, right?

Does anyone of you also play Shirase? I tried it today to practice 20G, and although it is really fun IF something works out, I tend to panic nearly all the time, hehe. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif
It is especially hard to consciously stack in a way that pieces don´t get stuck during a shift.
I play Shirase occasionally, but as I refuse to play World rule (I've only played World Easy mode by accident and World Easy mode one-handed because I'm not good enough to play Classic one-handed), playing it deducts too much decorations from my account, so I either play it logged out or on a separate account that I made specifically to play Shirase. My record so far (not many tries) is 124, which is S1. It's not the lock delay that kills me, but the short ARE that doesn't give me much time to think in between pieces.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Yes, it´s World.

In Shirase, I survived until Level 145 (0:57:63 Silver ST).
I also play it only without logging in.

[DeHackEd]

Qualified S6, death occurred at Lv789 in 6:19.7 (http://dhe.execulink.com/s6-qualify.jpg)1 (http://dhe.execulink.com/s6-qualify.zip)

Provisional grade S9, for more info you'll need to ask colour_thief. Pretty sure I made it past 800 though.

[mat]

m5 999 7:41:20
sweet.

[KevinDDR]

I don't know the time, but I do know that I am qualified with m5 grade using world rotation. I know I cleared the non-invisible roll, so I guess it was an orange line play.

Also, I'll post my Ti Classic m2 later once I get home from school. It was quite exciting!

[The Enigmatic Form]

I´m slowly getting there... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

5:05:65, Level 454, Class S1, ST Silver, SK Bronze

[colour_thief]

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1598/masterhz0.jpg

Master in 7:04:68 (orange line)

It finally came when I least expected it. I played the sloppiest, most single filled beginning that I have in months, not even getting ST bronze until level 400. Seriously, I think the first 2 sections took me 1:10 each, which is so bad as to fail TAP's M requirements by a wide margin. Though my poor first 4 sections were good enough to only miss 1 cool, and then I had a very strong performance after that and a decent fading roll. It's really weird watching myself make terrible mistakes in the beginning and then being completely at ease with the high speed.

Looking forward to getting it again in 6 minutes like I know I can. Or maybe even a MasterK if it all comes together.

[The Enigmatic Form]

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3838/tetrisfw8.jpg

[The Enigmatic Form]

Reached S3 yesterday, but I will try to improve again before I post a new record, because the time was pretty bad (around 9 minutes).

Does anyone know under which circumstances the music changes? I´m sure the second time is when the game enters 20G, as it is the same music as in Shirase, but at which point is the first change?

[LOst]

Reached S3 yesterday, but I will try to improve again before I post a new record, because the time was pretty bad (around 9 minutes).

Does anyone know under which circumstances the music changes? I´m sure the second time is when the game enters 20G, as it is the same music as in Shirase, but at which point is the first change?

If you don't get any section cool!!s, then the music changes:
level 500 (20g) "Fall asleep music"
level 800 "shirase music"


So basically the best thing you can get is with section cool!!s:
level 300 (20g) "Fall asleep music"
level 400 "shirase music"

[Amnesia]

Will you put this Master rank on youtube c_t ?

PS : profite to not have yet too many concurence here.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
If I perform a Master, that won't be at 7:XX neither at 6:XX..

[KevinDDR]

Unfortunately, I did not expect the exams and did not manage to get a camera out in time. I qualified with m6 in World Rule and S8 in Classic Rule at Acme on Friday.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Could be faster, but whatever. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

But I think place 3 of today´s highscores is pretty good.
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9783/p1010001cj4.jpg

Also received a silver SK medal for the first time.
I´m pretty satisfied with my stacking atm, but when I make a mistake, it either kills me or takes just too long to recover from it.

Are there any videos out there which are NOT from fantastic players with years of experience? I would love to see how a "non-superhuman" plays.

[muf]

Are there any videos out there which are NOT from fantastic players with years of experience? I would love to see how a "non-superhuman" plays.
I can try to make a video tonight (camera). On good days, I play just like the superhumans (or at least I like to think that I do), but simply can't handle the speed beyond a certain point.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Would be pretty cool, thanks! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

The other thing is that, of course, all players show only their best videos. I´d love to watch someone actually play for a longer period.

[jujube]

didn't somebody make a series of videos called "road to GM", where they started with a new account and ended with Ti Master GM, and recorded each game along the way?

[Rosti LFC]

But if they did that, then they were either Gm standard already (and therefore not really what he's looking for), or it'd be one damn long set of videos.

[jujube]

haha yeah, like 3000 videos. but still, i'm sure the best players have their average games from time to time, and you don't ever see those.

[Rosti LFC]

I'm still sure that the crappy runs from the likes of KAN are better than my best ones.

[mushroom]

speaking of kan, he's the player in the road to gm vids, the first of which can be found here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzqkSZAwZ-M). in this 9-video series he takes a machine from MM to Gm.

[LOst]

didn't somebody make a series of videos called "road to GM", where they started with a new account and ended with Ti Master GM, and recorded each game along the way?
It was KAN, and he's spot on when it comes to quality games. Like getting level 1300 in Shirase 3 times in a row at a competition beating jin8 and ZEB. Probably the only one in the whole world who is strong enough to do that.

The main problem by giving out TGM videos is that YouTube limits each video to 10 minutes. One game might last more than 10 minutes if played badly (at least my games).

Also The Enigmatic Form might look for WORLD Ti plays. Most of us are CLASSIC players.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Yes, but it wouldn´t make much difference for me. I would just like to watch a few plays which aren´t nearly perfect. Would love to see how a great player does on a bad day.

[LOst]

Yes, but it wouldn´t make much difference for me. I would just like to watch a few plays which aren´t nearly perfect. Would love to see how a great player does on a bad day.
It's so extremely boring to watch someone play over and over, and fail 95% of all games. No entertainment at all

[muf]

Well, boring to some, interesting to others, here's me playing rather sub-par, recorded last night.

YouTube - Road to Failure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSfVDuDclmg)

Not quite road to Gm, but this'll have to do for now. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[Rosti LFC]

If you want, next time I need to clear out my Texmaster save file I'll just upload it first. There'll be tons of crappy replays in it.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Well, boring to some, interesting to others, here's me playing rather sub-par, recorded last night.

YouTube - Road to Failure (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSfVDuDclmg)

Not quite road to Gm, but this'll have to do for now. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

Great, thanks! I really like the way you are able to clean up your mistakes, that´s something I really have to work on.

[muf]

Great, thanks! I really like the way you are able to clean up your mistakes, that´s something I really have to work on.
The most annoying thing about fixing up mistakes though is the time it takes to fix something. In this case the time penalty wasn't too much and I was still able to get the cools I needed, but often a single misdrop in 0-99 means missing the cool and not getting a speed boost in the next section. Very frustrating!

[The Enigmatic Form]

My biggest problem is that I usually create more mistakes while I fix others. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

[Rosti LFC]

Aside from the best practice of just not making the mistakes in the first place, something that can be quite useful (and which I don't do nearly enough) is to be able to simply ignore the mistakes and stack over them. When you start getting several lines under your main body then you should consider clearing the mistakes, but if you've got one or two holes in the stack it's almost always more beneficial in Master modes to simply just stack over them and ignore them. Wasting an entire section digging them out by clearing doubles and singles is far more damaging to your overall score and time.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Thanks!
I usually do this, it´s no problem in the beginning, but when the game gets really fast I just can´t manage to clean the crap, I´m not yet used to such speeds.

I nearly always get S1 now, and S2 every now and then. But the times are very bad, I really need to improve this.


Oh and by the way muf, did you play without logging in for the first few months with the game? 426 plays isn´t much.

[tepples]

It's so extremely boring to watch someone play over and over, and fail 95% of all games. No entertainment at all
Yeah, it'd probably look like someone harvesting fruit or catching fish in Animal Crossing. Just as it isn't wise to record and publish every second from 0 to finally paying off your character's house, it isn't wise to record and publish 0 to GM in a Tetris game.

[muf]

Oh and by the way muf, did you play without logging in for the first few months with the game? 426 plays isn´t much.
I´ve played a fair bit of games logged out, mainly when I wasn´t yet consistent enough to maintain my decorations. I looked at the global game counter a while ago, and I think it said something like 800 plays total (including those of jagorochi and guests I´ve had over playing the game). By now, almost all my games are logged in, except when I´m really not even trying to play well. That said, I don´t actually binge all that much on the machine. I try to play at least one or two games a day, but there have been weeks of not even powering it on.

[Amnesia]

Well, boring to some, interesting to others, here's me playing rather sub-par, recorded last night.

YouTube - Road to Failure

Not quite road to Gm, but this'll have to do for now.

Maybe these game was not that good, but at least I noticed that you can do this damn special move with the I, the double rotation to make it jump on the right column. I still can not do it since my trip in Waterloo. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[muf]

Maybe these game was not that good, but at least I noticed that you can do this damn special move with the I, the double rotation to make it jump on the right column. I still can not do it since my trip in Waterloo. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif
Good to know there are still things that I can do that you can't http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif Seriously though, that move is more of a curse; it promotes bad stacking (if you stack well you'll never need it), and it doesn't work in TGM and TAP.

[Amnesia]

No !

First you are wrong, c_t placed it on his 3rd or 1st DEATH Gm if I well remember.
And second, you are wrong as well, this move is simply..Too much esthetic..

[K]

the I double rotation at level 247 in muf's video doesn't use floorkick. this move can be performed in TGM and TAP.
in muf's case the IRS + double rotation wasn't required (http://fumen.zui.jp/?m105_40xdA3ibG3ibI3gbI3gbI3gbI3gbI3qbBDB), but in this case yes (http://fumen.zui.jp/?m105_40ydA3hbH3hbI3gbI3gbI3gbI3gbI3qbBIB). this move is not particularly aestetic, but necessary. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

[Amnesia]

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=nHfjc0xieIw

Level 347, but it was useless, just a tips used by c_t to get some dead micro secondes of thinking..
I thought it was the same move, but not..

edit : the second you mentioned need a floorkick jago..
Why are telling that it works on TAP ?
After more reflexion I was wrong, we can do it on TAP..

edit 2 : c'est quoi qui te choque sur le forum ?

[rednefed]

I find using that move myself during a TGM1 game once on average. Still pretty handy for getting an I to the left in Ti though.

[DIGITAL]

I agree with muf here. With 3 previews AND hold, you should not have to resort to such a technique. The only time I use it is when I accidentally take an I out of hold at the wrong time or in the wrong orientation, often due to either some mismanaged inputs or trislexia. In such scenarios, it tends to be more of a reflexive maneuver you've gained from experience rather than a strike of brilliance.

As for "aesthetics," I personally see good finesse as more aesthetically pleasing. No offense muf and ct, but that move was pretty pointless in both of your games and looked to me to be a reflexive recovery from an accidental IRS. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

Anyhow, that's not to say that this move cannot be aesthetically pleasing in my book. It depends on the scenario. If the move is necessary and intentional, then it may qualify. By necessary, I mean that there was no practical way to avoid it from stacking differently, etc. This applies to the various crazy techniques you could do such as the triple rotations with the J/L, the double rotation of the T to traverse gaps, etc.

If you just think the execution of the technique is visually pleasing, then boy, you are in for a nightmare with Shirase. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif

[Zaphod77]

the I double rotation at level 247 in muf's video doesn't use floorkick. this move can be performed in TGM and TAP.
in muf's case the IRS + double rotation wasn't required (http://fumen.zui.jp/?m105_40xdA3ibG3ibI3gbI3gbI3gbI3gbI3qbBDB), but in this case yes (http://fumen.zui.jp/?m105_40ydA3hbH3hbI3gbI3gbI3gbI3gbI3qbBIB). this move is not particularly aestetic, but necessary. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif

For that last case, the proper move is to IRS the I while holding right,then rotate twice after moving while still holding right.

If you fail to IRS it, you can still use the floorkick in TI to get it over.

[The Enigmatic Form]

No idea how this happened, as I felt I was not playing good at all.
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/5426/p1010002gt7.jpg

[muf]

   3--The Enigmatic Form-----S4 - 786 @ 09:02:00 - 12/10/08 - SI       SI - None
Infinity abuse much?

[The Enigmatic Form]

Good question, really.
I panic every now and then and give a piece 3 or 4 rotations, but I never do it counsciously. It´s not like I sometimes can´t decide where to put a piece and then rotate it for a minute while I sip on my drink. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

Sometimes I really wonder why my times are so slow.

[colour_thief]

There's never a mystery to slowness. If you record one of your plays I guarantee that you'll see some combination of infinity abuse, lack of manual locking, and inefficient placement techniques. Speed won't come overnight, but you should make steady progress as long as you keep playing. For now, try to avoid really slow placements unless they offer a strong strategic advantage. All you pieces should be placed at approximately the same rate. If this is already the case then you're either crazy inefficient with every placement, or you aren't manually locking.

I wouldn't worry about it too much for now though. Survival is a more important goal when you're starting out. Take the time to learn the game and enjoy yourself. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[The Enigmatic Form]

Of course you are right with all your observations; I didn´t want to say that there is no reason for my bad times, I just meant that I just can´t say right after a game exactly why I wasn´t good.

What definitely costs me time is my lack of manual locking at higher speeds, I´m aware of that, but I just can´t do it.

My stacking shouldn´t be much of a problem, I nearly always get silver SK medals now, but also here I really get lost at Shirase speed.

I just did a S3 at Level 551 in 05:03:01, which probably isn´t bad at all. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[Rosti LFC]

There's never a mystery to slowness. If you record one of your plays I guarantee that you'll see some combination of infinity abuse, lack of manual locking, and inefficient placement techniques.

Or Hold abuse, which is my preferred method of stalling when I need an extra split-second to think.

[muf]

Very intense game, and an improvement of 26 seconds from my previous S5 time. Manual locking at 500 (speed 1000) IST DEATH. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_cry.gif

[/url]


Play data:

[url=http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC04026.JPG] (http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC04027.JPG)

[merpy]

*merpy sneaks onto the board unannounced*

Well, I swore that once I passed the Torriken (sp?) I would post my times on the forum because they wouldn't be quite so embarrassing. ...it's still pretty bad (as is my photography), but here I am anyway. As you can see, my best level is 678 as of today (grade 2), and I'm qualified 3.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3149/3104476565_a787064903.jpg?v=0http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/3104476571_0b96e13a37.jpg?v=0

Oh yes, and on the game itself (in the photos), I am called 'Jo?'

[Amnesia]

Hi ! I wish you good luck ! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif
how are you since August ?

[merpy]

Thanks, amnesia! I'm doing well... one more week of school til Christmas break, and I was pretty excited to pass 500 finally today! Twice, actually! And now I will make Christmas cookies. I'll save one for you. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

[muf]

Hey merpy http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif Good to see you on my records thread. As you can see (http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1185), I already added your World Easy scores from a while back to the leaderboard, but it's definitely better that you're playing Classic rule now. It'll be fun tracking your progress. Love the avatar you have!

[merpy]

Haha, I actually only played World Rules that one single time... living with ct, I don't think I could have got away with it! I selected it accidentally and spent most of the game laughing madly at the near-infinite lock delay. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

It was definitely a fun diversion, but not something I'd normally want to do. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[muf]

It was definitely a fun diversion, but not something I'd normally want to do. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif
Ahh, you've been educated http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[The Enigmatic Form]

@muf: when you do the next update, would it be possible to list my
S3 04:55:41 Level 547, ST GO, SK BR
instead of my shitty S4?

Won´t have much time before christmas to play, altough I feel I´m close at reaching the next step. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif

[DeHackEd]

Provisional M_1 in 6:54.18 (level 930)

Picture (http://dehacked.2y.net/m1.png) (and maybe even movie) forthcoming later today when I get my proper toolset available.

[The Enigmatic Form]

NOW we´re talking! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8918/p1010001rx5.jpg

I finally adjusted to a way of playing where I can ignore small mistakes and just keep playing fast. Now I just need to solidify this.

[merpy]

New provisional ranking!
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/3123315079_513493ce85.jpg?v=0

[KevinDDR]

Nothing exciting to report here...m7 qualified in World as of today at Acme Bowl.

[muf]

Finally, an exam where I was alone and could put down a solid performance. Seriously, this game is all about psychology.

[/url]

(http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC04051.JPG)

[url=http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC04054.JPG]

Quiz: what is wrong about the last two pictures?

[colour_thief]

Qualification games don't count for highscores. It's probably flashing your previous non-qualification game.

[muf]

Qualification games don't count for highscores. It's probably flashing your previous non-qualification game.
So you're saying the S3 @ 522 is due to two coincidental games that happen to both have level 522?

[colour_thief]

Yes. If your qualification game showed up in the rankings at all, then that would be a bug. Also, it would have been flashing yellow.

[TWF]

http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1932/224/70/740174357/n740174357_1821301_7262.jpg
I'm TWF

[merpy]

New provisional AND new qualified scores today! Perhaps you could actually update it this time, muf. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

Provisional 1:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3499/3226708528_414f51ca03.jpg?v=0

Qualified 2 (the blurry level number says 496):
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3459/3226708514_76602f274c.jpg?v=0

[muf]

Perhaps you could actually update it this time, muf. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

You just gave me a nasty case of deja vu. That's exactly what ct said earlier in this thread! Sorry I missed your previous record. I was absolutely certain I updated it, maybe I forgot to paste it back into my browser or forgot to hit save! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[merpy]

No problem, just teasing you. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif I hadn't actually noticed until now.

[colour_thief]

   1--colour_thief------------M - 999 @ 06:27:93 - 02/01/09 - SI       SI - Orange

No camera at the moment, but I might make a video of this. It's my first personal best performed on a Sanwa.

[Amnesia]

OHHhhh... http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

[KevinDDR]

http://photos-a.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v653/24/45/595986809/n595986809_2074224_695.jpg

Ah. This was an M-Roll game, too.

Back to classic...

[colour_thief]

   1--colour_thief-----------MK - 999 @ 06:34:28 - 02/07/09 - GO    BR SI - Orange

Still no camera, still on Sanwa. I got the m9 promotion test 3 times this weekend, but didn't quite make it each time. My fastest M is now 6:01. Another funny thing happened: I beat my 0-100 section time 2 games in a row without even trying. Both times I got m7, and the record is now 45:85. That's not a great rank for me, but I'm mentioning it to point out to Amnesia that it's possible to finish games despite the "omg http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif first section" pressure.

[Amnesia]

ooh.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif

[colour_thief]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiz2E8T79TQ&fmt=18

And here's the video. Comments on how much my Hold useage sucks are appreciated as always. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[DIGITAL]

On the contrary, I think your hold usage in this game is much improved compared to the Shirase run. Sub 500 could use some rearrangements though as some placements felt particularly awkward, subsequently increasing your hold usage and robbing you of some I tetrominoes as well.

Above 500, the hold usage felt a lot more fluid perhaps because you relied less on it. I think you made a good choice not spamming it when you felt uneasy with certain placements, instead opting for simple skimming maneuvers to rid yourself of unwanted pieces.

Overall, the latter half looks great and the roll is impressive as well. I'm sure you could do much better in the first half though. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[Amnesia]

I am impressed..It is not a question of HOLD or consistency any more this time..You really managed it fast and efficient until 999.
And the delayed m roll was good !!

In my opinion you missed at least 15-20 secondes before 500, with your few mistakes and struggling moments to recover..

[Amnesia]

Je te fais un peu de pub c_t..
J'ai fait ca car tu ne m'avais impressionné autant depuis ton dernier DEATH GM à 6:19.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif

http://www.nolife-tv.com/forum/showthre ... post324834 (http://www.nolife-tv.com/forum/showthread.php?p=324834#post324834)

[Ai]

Congrats colour_thief and very impressive disappearing roll clear!

[merpy]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3608/3290425507_bfc10f9217.jpg?v=0

Finally passed the level 1 plateau! I no longer get my own section on the provisional board, at least. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif And I've failed two Level 1 promotional exams today, so hopefully that'll be moving up soon too.

[colour_thief]

It's nice to see your day of working from home has been productive! http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[merpy]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif Pssht. At least I got something accomplished.

[Amnesia]

I am making NoTGhost very strong..Now this is the war of the teachers..
I have no doubt that I am a better trainer than you c_t..NoTGhost is stronger than merpy.. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gifhttp://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif
The funniest is that we are reproducing our own concept on our gf student..

[TWF]

Hahaha yes

Amnesia will produce an angry bipolar monster that plays incredibly well but has frequent temper tantrums, while Colourthief will teach a cool, collected, reasoned student who quietly gains skill...

[DIGITAL]

I produced a stubborn, unrefined, and reckless beast who plays nothing but 4/5 width modes but who managed to surpass me in one of them.

[merpy]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3641/3309865323_05b600414f.jpg?v=0

Not stronger for long, Amnesia! Though CT tells me NoTGhost mostly plays Sudden Ti, so I guess my fabulous new S2 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif doesn't mean much in comparison.

[DIGITAL]

Not stronger for long, Amnesia! Though CT tells me NoTGhost mostly plays Sudden Ti, so I guess my fabulous new S2 http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif doesn't mean much in comparison.
Close but NoTGhost is addicted to DOOM on Heboris. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif Oh geez, is it me or does something sound familiar about this? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[Amnesia]

Exactely,c_t and I are reproducing almost the same scheme on our girlfriend.
NoTGhost is begining to manual lock on DOOM 0-100 and often get 180+, but his best on Master was only around 600, few months ago..
I use to get a bit upset when I see that she plays too much on DOOM, and I try to force her to practice slow 20G technics on 20G# G4. But she is so impatient..

There is no doubt that merpy is much more consistent than my gf, I think my lovely NoTghost would be unable to be 2 qualified.

[m:)]

http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif

your ladies play tetris? nice!

[merpy]

And it only took--what, 5 years?--and moving in together before it happened. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif But I am now an addict!

[muf]

My first proper Ti video recorded using my new VGA to video converter:

Pooptube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8h24OXHck4&fmt=18) - 60fps Xvid (http://mufunyo.net/tetris/video/muf_ti_master_s4_592_05_47_36.avi)

[KevinDDR]

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8286/classicm6.jpg

Mat...you must come up here again!!! I will see you at the tournament.

[colour_thief]

http://pici.se/pictures/CehQpbbBO.jpg

   1--colour_thief-----------m9 - 999 @ 06:17:95 - 02/28/09 - SI    BR GO

[DeHackEd]

Provisional m2 at level 806 in 5:49.86 as per the highscore list, bronze ST. Photo forthcoming.

I also had no fewer than 4 promotional exams (three S7 followed by one S8) and flunk'd `em all!

(Just when I think I had a handle on how TGM3 does its promotional exams and shooting stars, it throws another curveball at me. Now I don't know what to think.)

[TWF]

DeHackEd: I think the wiki has information on how Ti does qualification games. It has to do with the average of your last four games and some amount of randomness.

In Classic I'm qualified S2 still, but I've failed an S3 and an S4 exam. The S4 was so close http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif
I'm Provisional S5, which I've gotten a couple of times. Not really sure about time/level but I think they were both in the 500's.

[colour_thief]

DeHackEd: I think the wiki has information on how Ti does qualification games. It has to do with the average of your last four games and some amount of randomness.

That comes from that TGM document, and to be honest I don't trust it much about anything. It kind of bothers me that our wiki is full of it already because the document is quite objectively an unreliable source.

[K]

congrats ct, qualified m9 is becoming interesting http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif
hope you will succeed on upper grade http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif

[colour_thief]

Thanks. As you said, things are getting interesting. It's starting to feel like I can almost play this game now. It's very exciting and I'm strongly motivated to push for a higher qualified grade.

[TWF]

Colour_thief: I haven't heard anything about this Ti document. What is it?

[colour_thief]

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=905 (http://www.tetrisconcept.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=905)

[merpy]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3636/3366126073_db3f7abae9.jpg?v=0http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3474/3367072050_b45c8fed80.jpg?v=0
Finally got that qualification test. And also a much better time on the S2. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[The Enigmatic Form]

Could finally play again for the first time since christmas. Out of curiosity I decided to give Classic a shot:

3:47:30, Level 356, S1, ST Silver, SK Bronze

[K]

                     --Provisional Ranking--
                          CLASSIC RULE

Rank--Name----------------Grade - Lvl @ Time     - Date     - ST AC CO SK - Line   - Notes

================================================== ================================================

   1--colour_thief-----------MK - 999 @ 06:34:28 - 02/07/09 - GO    BR SI - Orange
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2--KevinDDR---------------m6 - 999 @ 07:14:36 - 02/28/09 - GO       BR - Orange - Acme Bowl
   3--matt_hatter83----------m5 - 999 @ 07:41:20 - 11/21/08 - GO       SI - Orange - Acme Bowl
   4--Amnesia----------------m4 - 999 @ 07:19:45 -    08/08 - SI       BR - Green  - ct's machine
   5--DeHackEd---------------m2 - 806 @ 05:49:86 - 03/01/09 - BR          - None   - ct's machine
   6--jagorochi--------------m2 - 837 @ 06:01:63 -       08 - GO       BR - None
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   7--mufunyo----------------S5 - 566 @ 04:54:18 - 12/11/08 - BR          - None
   8--Tada-------------------S5 - 642 @ 05:56:46 - 02/28/09 -             - None   - Acme Bowl
   9--Radish-----------------S4 - 557 @ 05:27:15 - 01/19/09 - BR          - None
  10--merpy------------------S2 - 790 @ 09:26:25 - 02/26/09 -          BR - None   - ct's machine

thanks to remove me from this ranking. it's completely inacurate and out of date.

[colour_thief]

thanks to remove me from this ranking. it's completely inacurate and out of date.

So you're giving up? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif

[muf]

thanks to remove me from this ranking. it's completely inacurate and out of date.
I didn't remove it, so I'm not sure who you're thanking. To be honest, I put that record there in the first place because I knew it wasn't your best, in the hope that it would motivate you to post a record (any record, I'm sure you'd be able to do better easily on the first try) while you were still in Japan. It's a shame to see you backing out of this challenge.

[colour_thief]

That was actually frenglish for "please remove me from the ranking".

[K]

I can't reasonably access the game. Remove me from the ranking or at least write on the note column that i stopped this game 1 year ago.http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_confused.gif

[KevinDDR]

Unbelievable. I'm qualified m6 in Classic now.

Also m8 provisional Classic but I'll post a screen of that later or something.

[merpy]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3586/3455684859_5F7ca1fde59a.jpg?v=0

Yay, S3! *sneaks up on Radish* Here I ever so slowly come!

[TWF]

Oh, I haven't posted a record in a while. I'm provisional S6 now.

[muf]

Updated everyone's records, renamed jagorochi to jago, and set his record to "Long ago". May I remind the slackers to bring their cameras to their favourite bowling alley next time? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif

[m:)]

May I remind the slackers to bring their cameras to their favourite bowling alley next time? http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_exclaim.gif


muf, you are forgetting how hard it is to find a camera on a cellphone these days.

[KevinDDR]

Whine whine whine! Moan moan moan! Tetris the Grand Master 3!

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs012.snc1/2923_94726194357_740174357_2469742_8012016_n.jpg

I hate this game.

Put smarties tubes on cats legs, make them walk like a robot.

[merpy]

Oh, I haven't posted a record in a while. I'm provisional S6 now.

D'oh. I'm sneaking up on someone who isn't even there... well, I can totally get S6. Any day now. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

[colour_thief]

http://pici.se/pictures/RMxiNwdhW.jpg

Guess what that orange m9 bumped off the scoreboard?



A green (because of m-roll) m9 cleared in 5:41!!

[The Enigmatic Form]

Just when I started to become frustrated because of my lack of improvement, this happened:
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5969/p1010022uwp.jpg
http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

[merpy]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3392/3572051446_4cfee689b5.jpg?v=0

Not a huge improvement, but it's been a while since I've posted (or played) so here you go... and bronze SK!

[DeHackEd]

Provisional Classic Master: m4 at level 899 in 6:23.21 as per the highscore list.

Qualified Classic Master: unchanged, but I failed an S7 exam. http://www.tetrisconcept.net/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif

Photo available on demand as long as it's demanded late tomorrow.

[merpy]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2475/3645721598_2ec5986973.jpg?v=0

Woo! Come back to it after a bit of a break, and look what happens!

[The Enigmatic Form]

http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/7065/p1010001v.jpg

[muf]

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7264/dsc04279f.jpg

Weee new record, a day after I started playing again.

[KevinDDR]

I didn't take a screen, but hopefully CT is nice enough to before he wipes all my scores off of Acme TGM3.

Classic m8 999 Orange Line 6:29.88 Gold ST Bronze SK

[TWF]

Two consecutive S7's followed by two consecutive failed S6 promotional exams. I hate this game.

[muf]

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9150/dsc04294eom.jpg (http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC04294.JPG)

Weee ~

[Deniax]

Bah Muf, you'll slaughter me when I'm gonna visit your home again :)

[merpy]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2524/3744856008_e87cf717b0.jpg?v=0:)http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3420/3744038053_340cf0bec0.jpg?v=0

Updates! First I qualified S2, then got a new PB of S4. It's a good night for me.

P.S. Hey Seattle peeps, how come you never update? *pokes TWF* I saw you get qualified S6! :D

[KevinDDR]

It's probably because TWF is in California on some kind of summer class.

I'm just fat and lazy. I'll update everything in the morning.

[merpy]

Ah, I see. So he went straight from S2 to S6... :p

[muf]

You've jumped positions quite a bit there merpy! It's funny to note that if TWF is qualified S6 now, a combination of two reasons mean you're above him:
- He was too lazy to post his S6 so the both of you tie on S2
- He was too lazy to post level/time information for his S2 so you tie-break him

:rolleyes:

[colour_thief]

No new record record, but I have a new fastest 999 clear. And qualified M is looking more possible with each passing session.

http://pici.se/pictures/WVrZVdsxC.jpg
http://pici.se/pictures/ExEeZTMDI.jpg

[Amnesia]

How is it possible.

HOW DO YOU DO THAT !!!!???????O_O

[colour_thief]

How is it possible.

HOW DO YOU DO THAT !!!!???????O_O

I'm sorry to do this to you again, but, it all starts with a good reliable stick...

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/fstetifu8.png

And beyond that I play more often for stacking than speed so consistency comes naturally, and speed follows easily too.

[muf]

http://mufunyo.net/tetris/teetriiis.png
S6 OH MAH GAAAWWWWDDD :sowsuser:


http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6007/dsc04389v.jpg (http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC04389.JPG)

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7538/dsc04390h.jpg (http://mufunyo.net/tetris/DSC04390.JPG)

I so wish I'd recorded this. I managed to stack down completely to the bottom right before the level 500 section change. I had a clean stack at 600 but I just can't handle the speed beyond 1000 on the speedcurve.

[TWF]

OKAY I am sorry I haven't posted here in a while. I was in San Fransisco for 3 weeks and stuff.

I'm now qualified S6 (up from S4 IIRC, not S2) and provisional m1.

EDIT:
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5408/65331383146518095959868.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/65331383146518095959868.jpg/)
By h6199254 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/h6199254)
Here's my m1.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/2692/65331368828768095959868.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/i/65331368828768095959868.jpg/)
By h6199254 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/h6199254)
And here are the section times Kevin and I stole back from CT.

[Amnesia]

Pff ridiculous..If I had been there, the 4 first sections at least would have been all "AMN"

[TWF]

Then fly out here and give me some incentive to improve my speed! :p

[TWF]

Another day, another qualified grade. S7 now.

Another provisional grade as well:
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8721/img1699x.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/i/img1699x.jpg/) http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/img1699x.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img194/img1699x.jpg/1/)

[KevinDDR]

You know, I think it's time to sleep now.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/5223/image044k.jpg

[muf]

http://mufunyo.net/tetris/rostim5_grade.png
http://mufunyo.net/tetris/rostim5_speed.png
http://mufunyo.net/tetris/rostim5_rank.png

[Ai]

I suppose Rosti was in the Netherlands or was it the other way around? I have a deep sense of shame right now. ^^; I hope you had/are having a great time and nice job!

[Rosti LFC]

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8813/dsc00234ne.jpg

Better than any of my joystick records on Texmaster (:awe:), though unfortunately not on video (D:).

[KevinDDR]

Here's some STs in case you guys are interested as to how much I suck and how much Zach rocks.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6362/masterst.jpg

[The Enigmatic Form]

Started to play again...

--The Enigmatic Form-----S4 - 518 @ 04:14:98 - 09/21/09 - SI / / BR

I´m on the right track I think...now that I have a new computer which should also be able to handle emulation I think I´ll give TGM1 and TAP a shot. :p

[Amnesia]

why this 0-100 is still so ridiculous..many months ago I was already at 45:XX with my "no colour" TI !!:v

[colour_thief]

I would have left a memorable 0-100 if I had a chance to play more than ~4 games of Master... :\

[Rosti LFC]

Pretty sure the section times that Jago managed on his Ti are faster, but I'm just going from memory. I had a fucking hard time even getting a bronze ST for the first section though.

Also, I'm qualified m1, should have a video uploaded soonish.

[The Enigmatic Form]

@muf: is there a reason why your new and Rosti´s records are not included in the current list?

[Rosti LFC]

Because he's a bit lazy and slow updating at the best of times, and he's had to childmind me for the last four or five days :)

[The Enigmatic Form]

Ah, I see. :)
I was just confused because he updated my new record very quickly.

[Ai]

No, that was colour_thief. Maybe muf is taking into consideration that he and Rosti will still improve during Rosti's stay or he's lazy just like Rosti mentioned. ^^

[Rosti LFC]

Well I'm back home now so no excuses :v

[Amnesia]

4--Amnesia----------------m4 - 999 @ 07:19:45 - 08/08 - SI BR - Green

Better like this :

4--Amnesia----------------m4 - 999 @ 07:19:45 - 08/--/08 - SI BR - Green

?

Hmm forget, just ignore me..I am flooding today.

[The Enigmatic Form]

Well yeah. :o

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/7347/p1010002yh.jpg

[Rosti LFC]

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/rostilfc/Tetris/DSC00234.jpg

[Meroigo]

lol, just to brag about that i can play TGM3 I'll post a crappy record... and to make me motivated of beating this crappy record. :P I'm still not used to playing among people in the arcade, I know i can do alot better when I'm used to it.

Also, this is a crappy pic taken with the crappy camera in the cheap Japanese cell i bought today. Sorry about that, but I don't dare/want to take upp my humongous SLR camera to take a pic of a leaderboard... Maybe i should bring my compact camera with me the next time. :P

http://www.pici.se/pictures/UoAWsxpGc.jpg

(classic rule)

S4 - 597 @ 05:32:40 - 10/30/09 - - None - KING near Kyoto Station

Edit: Btw, person no.1 on the leaderboard on my pic wins the whole leaderboard here on TC. ;D Sorry guys!!!

[TWF]

Has anyone heard of 223? MM in 5:12 is very very good - either it's another player that's near GM or it's a pseudonym of KAN or jin8.

[colour_thief]

I think it's just a local strong player, I remember Meroigo mentioning he's seen him play. Also there's a big difference between MM and qualified MM. (Though both are freaking awesome.)

[Amnesia]

For having been at least 3 times MM with such times, he should be at least MV or MO qualified..At this level I think the player has no problem anymore with his consistence.

[KevinDDR]

I'd be consistently MK if the darn COOL!! system didn't exist. :sowsuser:

[The Enigmatic Form]

What a coincidence:
http://tetrisconcept.net/forum/showpost.html?p=21359&postcount=50

[Meroigo]

Enig: Nice!!! :DDD

c_t: I'm not sure of the alias of the person I saw that owned and cleared everything like it was nothing, all i know is that it was numbers, like this "223" is. Also, it was on another arcade (but, like me, he can go to both arcades ;P). If I see 223 I will tell him about this discussion, and ask about his best grades etc... ;D

[DeHackEd]

Green m6 in 7:11.30

Epic credit roll fail, but first time reaching 999. I played the last ~4 seconds 6 rows from the top of so.

[colour_thief]

Oh hey, not bad, that actually got you 2 places. Any medals in that game?

[Amnesia]

Need to put at least something recent :

M6 at 5:3X at level 92X.

EDIT: oh, I also got a 45:90 0-100 section time (picture available on request)

[DeHackEd]

Oh hey, not bad, that actually got you 2 places. Any medals in that game?

Bronze ST only... :(

[muf]

http://mufunyo.net/tetris/stgolds5.png

[TWF]

Holy shit, 42 seconds for 200-300? Our Ti's record was 46.00, and it was mine.

[colour_thief]

No new record but here's some pics to show I'm still playing...

http://pici.se/pictures/szlvZGiAo.jpg
http://pici.se/pictures/wmDPWETbI.jpg

I actually had this sequence of games:

M
M
M
M
M test (final grade not shown, probably m9)
M

Let's go better next time.

[TWF]

Your consistency is incredible, but how often do you earn the m-roll?

[colour_thief]

Only when I accidently play too well. With m-roll only about 25% of my games would get M. It's definitely one of my weaknesses but I'm content to ignore it for now. Once I've got faster MKs on my board and possibly MV that might change, but there's too little payoff for now. It's hard to motivate myself to practice m-roll when there's real tetris to be played.

[mushroom]

m-roll is a pretty hardcore representation of "real tetris"

[Edo]

Ti's invisible staff roll shouldn't really be called the "m-roll" as it's not a requisite of M grades.

Personally, I think invisibility is rather gimmicky, it's one of the things I dislike most about Ti. The skills that invis requires are of such narrow application; mastering invis alone does not make a strong player. Yet an invis specialist who is otherwise mediocre can play a slow and sloppy game, with a clear time of over 8 minutes and not even a bronze SK, and still obtain the invis roll and have a good chance of getting a MasterO or MasterM, whereas a stronger and more rounded tetris player can clear the game in under 5 minutes with gold SK, and because they haven't invested the time to get good at a gimmick, they will struggle to even get a MasterK rank.

[colour_thief]

m-roll is a pretty hardcore representation of "real tetris"

The difference in my eyes is that performance is not especially dependent on problem solving. You could play with really terrible sub-TGM1-Gm decisionmaking and still max out the grade, as long as you can keep the playfield shape in your head. Sure the world's best still play amazingly, but the entry-to-midrange TAP Master GM player has wins that would look like complete ass if you could see the playfield.

I'd say there's a continuum of handicapping the player, with standard play on one side and invisibility and dance pad play etc on the other side. And stuff like Shirase [ ] blocks and one-handed play somewhere in between. Sure the core gameplay is there the whole way through, but as you approach the non-standard extreme the game challenges you in very different ways and becomes more gimmick than tetris.

I'm still up for the challenge, but in my view it's much less interesting than real tetris.

[Kitaru]

You guys are making me quite sad, haha. :<

I can see where you guys are coming from, but I personally enjoy invisible quite a bit. I think it is a refreshing challenge, and I think the restriction has changed the way I look at the game much like 20G has. I don't think it is as simple as "[maxing out the grade as long as] you can keep the playfield shape in your head." If you aren't being very thoughtful about how each placement as well as how potential subsequent placements will affect your stack and the visualization thereof, I can't imagine how you'd be doing anything other than taking a trip to the top.

To each his own as always, but I find this gimmick quite meaningful. I think all the time I've spent playing Phantom and practicing M-Roll has definitely been beneficial to my development as a player. In fact, I believe that taking the time to look at the game from this different angle has helped develop my approach to stacking overall.

[muf]

I really like the way TAP's done it, where failing the m-roll puts you one grade away from the top. It's a "separate the boys from the men" kind of thing, and Master isn't such a bad grade after all. The game's basically saying, "okay, you're a master... but are you a GRAND master?" I think invisible as well as grandfather blocks tie in well with TGM's roots as a game meant to look "cool" and attract a crowd.

[Zircean]

Yeah, I agree with muf here... You can be a Master, meaning you're really good at Tetris, but then you can be a Grandmaster, meaning you're so good that you don't even have to see what you're doing and still play reasonably well.

[TWF]

Given the way this discussion has turned I thought I'd repost this little comic I drew about colour_thief the other day.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1179275/math_ctcomic.jpg

[muf]

Holy image enhancement batman!

http://mufunyo.net/tetris/ctcomic_ZOMGCSI.png

[TWF]

lol thanks muf

[muf]

Also, that comic is awesome.

[Zircean]

+10000000 bonus points TWF, that made me rofl

[mushroom]

everyone whining about the m-roll is just frustrated

knowing exactly what's going to happen to your piece when you give a specific input is the core element of the game, and there's no way to stress that more than making its environment invisible

case clorsed

[TWF]

m3 provisional, died at 911, mastering time 6:52:51

[Kitaru]

Given the way this discussion has turned I thought I'd repost this little comic I drew about colour_thief the other day.

[image]

Where are the D buttons?

[TWF]

colour_thief doesn't need a button to hold. He does it with his mind.


no actually I didn't draw them because originally it was gonna be TAP haha

[merpy]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2743/4163093313_256443feb7.jpg

It's been a while, but I made some progress after returning to the game for a bit. (CT requests that you ignore the 'crappy' m1 above my stellar s4. :rolleyes:)

[TWF]

Hey muf, I know it's a nitpicky complaint, but could you change the new "Acme bowl" scores to "Narrows plaza bowl" from now on?

[colour_thief]

http://pici.se/pictures/fLTCXXaqa.jpg
http://pici.se/pictures/AtOQItXGa.jpg

First Ti invisible roll clear! :D
If you look closely, you will see that my "today's" and "alltime" rankings are the same. I had a good day. B)

[Burbruee]

Congratulations! :D
(did you record a video?)

[colour_thief]

Congratulations! :D
(did you record a video?)

Yup, just had to process it. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UqMpJvDInM

[The Enigmatic Form]

Finally have time to play again, and I think I'm close to the next step. Just got a very solid S4 at 3:41:66, but only reached 502. :colbert:
If I had just survived a bit longer...

[Meroigo]

lol i went and played Ti for 3 hours today (50 yen for two credits is good value for money, me thinks! :D). I am getting S3's and S4's more consistently now. ^^

I broke my own record! ...but as usual, I suck, so I am still last in the leaderboard, haha. =(
http://pici.se/thumbs/t_HotZLpvFk.gif (http://pici.se/p/large/HotZLpvFk)
13--Meroigo----------------S4 - 568 @ 05:22:70 - 12/30/09 - BR - None - KING near Kyoto Station

I was so close S5 in a later game than in the pic, I think, it felt like it... ;D Too bad i screwed up like some stupid person and died. :(

Also, I saw Kyoto's Ti pro known as 223 in the leaderboards. I took a pic of his playfield when he played. I was so awesome. Waow. .... waow.
http://pici.se/thumbs/t_pEmzxcybu.gif (http://pici.se/p/large/pEmzxcybu)

Can't wait to meet kan and eventually other Tokyo pros!! (...going to Tokyo tomorrow for some days, so it's soon, yay ^^)

[Ai]

Positions 9 to 13 on the provisional ranking are very close so you can make a big jump with a little improvement. You'll get there eventually if you keep playing. Is 223 the only pro you've seen in Kyoto? Did you talk to him?

Nice trip to Tokyo. Say hello if you meet some players and a Happy New Year. ^^

[TWF]

m6, 999. Kevin has a picture that shows the time that I'll post later.

[KevinDDR]

Classic MV, 6:05.xx, 999 picture coming soon.

[TWF]

bumping with my score

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1179275/sakuracon-m6.jpg
[999 m6 06:31:78 silver ST bronze SK greenline]