New (and old licensed tetris games)

Thread in 'Discussion' started by Zaphod77, 18 Nov 2018.

  1. Zaphod77

    Zaphod77 Resident Misinformer

    The retro bit portable (that's a nes on a chip in a gameboy ish case) appears to have a new Authentic Tetris Game that i've never seen before.

    the AtGames LEgends flashback has FAMICOM BPS TETRIS in it, and it IS licensed as well. (has the TTC logo on the box and everything!)


    1) why the #%$! does legends flashback have BPS Famicom Tetris in it, when it never had a legit license?!?!
    2) has anyone dumped the tetris from that retro bit box? i'd buy the handheld if it's dpad weren't total CRAP.

    oddly enough the legends ultimate arcade cabinet has Jaleco's Tetris Plus 2 (which is an authentic tetris game that follows sega style rules and colors). All sorts of older tetris games are getting licensed now!

    I'm hoping this means TGM can be?
    Last edited: 18 Nov 2018
  2. 1: I have no idea why they picked that version. I do know that the legal screen has been replaced to match those of modern games, and that the controls have been changed (up and B now rotate, while down, A and C are used for hard drop).
    2: No idea, but it's definitely new, because it has guideline scoring.
  3. Zaphod77

    Zaphod77 Resident Misinformer

    does it have SRS, and StupidMarathon(tm)?
  4. I found another gameplay video and checked again, and it turns out I was wrong -- the scoring is not guideline. It's sort of guideline, in that the line clears appear to be in roughly the same ratio, but the values are different. Marathon appears to be fixed goal (I haven't seen anyone properly play yet though).
  5. Zaphod77

    Zaphod77 Resident Misinformer

    interesting i'd like to play this, but i don't want to buy the unit because it's dpad is crap.

    maybe it exists somewhere else?
  6. Famicom Tetris did eventually get an official license. You can see the revised version here:


    Despite that, Elorg has nothing to do with Tetris anymore, and if the TTC wanted they could've made this game official if they wanted to now.
  7. Zaphod77

    Zaphod77 Resident Misinformer

    an official JAPAN license. and now it's in a US product.

    true they DO own the code, since they WERE BPS in the past.

    another point. since ttc is willing to license that to atgames, as well as tetris plus 2 to them for their arcade cabinet product, which uses Sega colors and other Japanese rules... why not older TGM?!?! i'm pretty sure mihara would be happy to take money for including it on a plug and play or licensed arcade cabinet, if the performance was within original specs.

    and that license was from elorg to andromeda to mirrorsoft and them. andromeda/mirrorsoft/spectrum holobyte only had a COMPUTER license, and thus weren't really able to sublicense to a console, as i understand it. Atari tried the same stunt in the USA through tengen and got the smackdown because they only had an arcade license.

    sega got the japan arcade license, and atari got the us arcade license. but bloxeed actually did make it to the usa as an arcade game. and pretty sure it was properly licensed.

    oddly enough they couldn't get nintendo's nes tetris on because nintendo still had THAT license, but because famicom tetris was their own code, and they are the current ip holder, they could license IT out.

    for the arcade cabinet a world licensed arcade licensed tetris was taken. But pretty sure that ttc could relicense TGM or TAP.
    Last edited: 20 Nov 2018
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  8. Frank Cifaldi posted a full gameplay video of the Retro-Bit game, and it is indeed very "sort of guideline":
    * Line clears are 50, 150, 250, 400 times level. This is half of the amount in guideline, while the drop points are the same as guideline.
    * Randomiser isn't bag (three Js appear before the first Z). It looks more like a 4-history randomiser, in fact.
    * Lock delay seems to be very short, around 8 or 9 frames. Doesn't appear to have move reset either.
    * Level increases every 10 lines - but any extra lines beyond 10 are ignored, as in the goal system.
    I couldn't tell if full SRS was implemented, but the base rotations are the same.
  9. Zaphod77

    Zaphod77 Resident Misinformer

    Now if someone would just dump the rom so i can play it with a decent dpad. :)
  10. I'm more interested in who actually developed that NES game.
    EDIT: Turns out it was Shiru. Thanks. :)

    Yah, even if BPS Tetris wasn't licensed at the time, TTC is pretty much founded by BPS, so I don't see why they wouldn't regard that game.
    Last edited: 27 Jan 2019
  11. Zaphod77

    Zaphod77 Resident Misinformer

    WOW. If i'm to believe the picture i saw on atgames twitter, it's the same Famicom BPS lousy tetris game on the legends ultimate as well. (the picture shows a legends ltimate with tetris gfx on it and the famicom bps tetris.)


    Even the version of tetris on that nes in a gameboy case is better than that. Is that arcade so weak that it can't emulate Super Tetris 3 for SNES? That version is at least competent, with some interesting variations. Sega arcade tetris is better than that. even atari arcade tetris is better than that. Out of all even somewhat properly licensed arcade and console tetris games (computer ones aren't counted here), that one is by far the worst i've ever played.
  12. Apparently the Legends Ultimate has all the same games from the Legends Flashback, including Famicom Tetris. Turns out it does indeed have Tetris Plus 2, though.
  13. Zaphod77

    Zaphod77 Resident Misinformer

    Oh, so this is confirmed?

    That's probably the best choice available short of TGM. I only saw that prelim photo on one site that does not prove it was from the ultimate cabinet.

    But Tetris 2 plus is a very decent choice. It has proper orientations, and jaleco is very willing to license stuff as i recall, so that's probably why they picked it. They only had to pay Jaleco and TTC.

    Short of dealing with Arika+Capcom or Psikyo, it's difficult to find a better one, and i dunno if their platform can handle ps1 or psikyo hardware.

    Getting either of those licensed, with the hardware up to snuff compared to original would make Mihara pretty happy i think (there's no WAY TI would run on their platform unless it's x86 pc based) and would get me to buy the thing as soon as i had the cash and room for it.

    TTC has licensed a Japanese made arcade tetris now. One with reasonably fast DAS, and non guideline orientations. for a home at arcade box. Hell if they made a tv box+stick that only did TGM and TAP with latency equal to original hardware, i'd buy it.
    Last edited: 22 Jun 2019
  14. Zaphod77

    Zaphod77 Resident Misinformer

    the ultimate also can play any of the blast games, if said blast is plugged into the hdmi dongle spot.

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